IH*ly sh1t surely its not happening this quickly
Tory Remainers warn party is being infiltrated by 'purple Momentum'
https://mol.im/a/6710903
Anna Soubry for next PM
IH*ly sh1t surely its not happening this quickly
Tory Remainers warn party is being infiltrated by 'purple Momentum'
https://mol.im/a/6710903
PLEASE tell me you're joking At' - the woman is a complete nightmare!IAnna Soubry.
Anna Soubry for next PM![]()
Nope I'm serious. I think she's great. Great leader. Fearless. Level headed. Speaks good common sense.. Heart in right place.PLEASE tell me you're joking At' - the woman is a complete nightmare!
Agreed At' but, IMO, that's the very reason why Anna Soubry is unlikely to lead anything other than the Hypocrisy Society. She campaigns to thwart Brexit and to remain in the EU in spite of the fact that she voted in favour of having the 2016 referendum, in spite of the fact that her constituency voted to leave, in spite of campaigning at the last general election on a manifesto that promised to honour the referendum result and in spite of the fact that she voted to trigger Article 50. To be fair to her, she only backed having the referendum because she thought remain would win. She said: “[I backed it] only because I thought we would win. Obviously I wouldn’t have been if I thought we would lose, let’s be honest.” She went on to say: "We voted for the Referendum Act without understanding the consequences of a leave vote. [That's because you're incompetent Anna!] We told people it was binding, but now we don’t know, and it’s quite concerning that none of these things were explored before parliament decided . . . It’s all of our faults. All of us. Every single one of us. And I feel very guilty about that.” [Indeed, you should feel guilty about your actions Anna. But it's not everyone's fault is it - it's your fault and that of other hypocritical MPs who, like you, say one thing - or vote for something - and then do the opposite.] Link to quotes: Anna Soubry: I only backed EU referendum vote because Remain was supposed to win. . . Pick your leaders carefully otherwise you getbrains all dressed up talking tosh.
Hi Tim,Agreed At' but, IMO, that's the very reason why Anna Soubry is unlikely to lead anything other than the Hypocrisy Society. She campaigns to thwart Brexit and to remain in the EU in spite of the fact that she voted in favour of having the 2016 referendum, in spite of the fact that her constituency voted to leave, in spite of campaigning at the last general election on a manifesto that promised to honour the referendum result and in spite of the fact that she voted to trigger Article 50. To be fair to her, she only backed having the referendum because she thought remain would win. She said: “[I backed it] only because I thought we would win. Obviously I wouldn’t have been if I thought we would lose, let’s be honest.” She went on to say: "We voted for the Referendum Act without understanding the consequences of a leave vote. [That's because you're incompetent Anna!] We told people it was binding, but now we don’t know, and it’s quite concerning that none of these things were explored before parliament decided . . . It’s all of our faults. All of us. Every single one of us. And I feel very guilty about that.” [Indeed, you should feel guilty about your actions Anna. But it's not everyone's fault is it - it's your fault and that of other hypocritical MPs who, like you, say one thing - or vote for something - and then do the opposite.] Link to quotes: Anna Soubry: I only backed EU referendum vote because Remain was supposed to win
Now she wants a second referendum but, not only that, she only wants two options on the ballot paper: Mrs. May's lousy deal and remain. So, in spite of voting for Article 50 which - as you know - has leaving with no-deal as the default position, she's doing all she can to take no-deal off the table. All the while she bleats on about verbal abuse whilst being perfectly happy to indulge in some name calling of her own and to hurl insults at others. Pot, kettle, black Anna! Dear, dear me At', the woman's a nightmare and if she's really your idea of a great leader that speaks good common sense - then heaven help us!
Tim.
Hi At',. . .You seem to hold her to account but don't say much about all the double dealing and non-deliverable promises made by Brexiteers. . .
Are you sure you don't understand why MSM wouldn't make this into a national scandal? After all we have discovered about the MSM in recent years, it surprises me that people appear still not to understand. This is not a comment about your ability to rationalise or understand, more to probe why you would expect the mainstream press to be working against the pro-remain political leadership rather than for them.Their duplicity is outrageous and for the life of me I don't understand why it isn't a national scandal and headline news across the media.
Maybe because it is not as clear cut as you describe it? Otherwise I, like you, couldn’t believe that the harder brexiteers and the Brexit supporting media wouldn’t have been screaming blue murder from the roof tops.........Their duplicity is outrageous and for the life of me I don't understand why it isn't a national scandal and headline news across the media.......
Fair play Sig', you've got me there - well and truly snookered I am!Are you sure you don't understand why MSM wouldn't make this into a national scandal? After all we have discovered about the MSM in recent years, it surprises me that people appear still not to understand. This is not a comment about your ability to rationalise or understand, more to probe why you would expect the mainstream press to be working against the pro-remain political leadership rather than for them.
I think you''ll find they have, even a couple of MSM examples in there:Maybe because it is not as clear cut as you describe it? Otherwise I, like you, couldn’t believe that the harder brexiteers and the Brexit supporting media wouldn’t have been screaming blue murder from the roof tops.
Hi Jon,Maybe because it is not as clear cut as you describe it? Otherwise I, like you, couldn’t believe that the harder brexiteers and the Brexit supporting media wouldn’t have been screaming blue murder from the roof tops.
Most of those seem about not liking TM’s deal, not about why a DD/DT deal was not followed through.I think you''ll find they have, even a couple of MSM examples in there:
https://www.altnewsmedia.net/topical-news-general/exclusive-the-chequers-deal-worse-than-we-thought/
https://www.altnewsmedia.net/topical-news-general/the-final-betrayal-of-brexit/
http://freenations.net/chequers-corporatist-betrayal-the-national-interest-is-to-abolish-the-nation/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2018/09/29/letterssticking-chequers-plan-would-betrayal-brexit-vote/
https://brexitcentral.com/accepting-chequers-common-rulebook-disastrous-business/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5932103/Four-10-voters-believe-Theresa-Mays-Chequers-deal-betrayal-Brexit.html
TimHi Jon,
Given that you're a remainer, I'd be interested to hear how you (and Atilla et al) interpret the testimonies provided by Steve Baker and Suella Braverman to the European Scrutiny Committee. To my mind, either they are lying through their teeth or the situation is every bit as clear cut as I described it in my post. To save you searching for the YouTube links, I'll attach them here. The first one is the main one - but the other two are well worth watching if you've not done so already.
Tim.
By implication it is! [emoji6]Most of those seem about not liking TM’s deal, not about why a DD/DT deal was not followed through.
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