Trump Presidency and the Consequences

[Atilla]

Hi folks,

You know how it works... President Trump and the consequences.

As actions and decisions come in one by one, we can debate and discuss consequences. Good or bad, happy or sad, true or false, positive or negative for the USA???


Kicking it off.


Trump Scraps TPP
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32498715

He said he would. Top man. Does as he says.

Bad for global trade. SPX500 off a trifle. Dollar falling. Good for US jobs??? So they say. Remains to be seen.


:whistling

 

[Mr. Charts]

I don't think I can cope with a four/eight year long thread.......

 

[Atilla]

I don't think I can cope with a four/eight year long thread.......

What doesn't kill you will only make you stronger Mr C.

Just think of all those US citizens... You never know we may well become the 51st state our selves.

 

[Mr. Charts]

I don't follow the teachings of Nietzsche, (What doesn't kill you will only make you stronger ) unlike Hitler.

The great disadvantage on the UK becoming the 51st 52nd 53rd states of the union is that we might get a neo Fascist ignoramus as leader.

 

[hhiusa]

The US empire and sphere of influence has been in decline for donkeys years.

It seems to have passed you by, the rise of Asia !

Only in Europe would they be so pompous as to call it an empire. Calling it an empire dooms it, from the Roman Empire to the British Empire. The British Empire went from having India, Canada, 13 colonies, the Caribbean, Hong Kong, ... to just the UK. Now they just have BOTCs in the Caribbean, not even colonies. Brits need a passport to travel to those countries and they have heads of state.

The US has colonies even though we were never pompous enough to call them that. They are US territories spanning the far flung regions of the world. Instead of heads of state they are regional governors. "One president to rule them all." Trump rules them all now. The best part is that American can travel to them without a passport like an extension to the country. From Amundsen, Antartica to The Aleutians to The Marshall Islands to the mainland. :whistling

That is an empire, if we were to call it such, but alas they are territories.

 

[hhiusa]

US (Empire ) from 339,255 sq mi (13 states) to 3,531,905 sq mi now. 1,041% increase in size.
British Empire from 5,124,000 sq mi to 94,058 sq mi. 98.1% decrease in size.
In the same amount of time. :whistling

 

[dbphoenix]

Hitler didn’t steal the power, his people voted for him, and then he destroyed his people.

-- Pope Francis

 

[Atilla]

Number 2 - goes on to the list.

1. Scrapping PTT trade deal, and
2. reinstates ban on providing federal funding to aid groups that perform abortions

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...mp-first-orders-trans-pacific-partnership-tpp

 

[dbphoenix]

White House website touts Melania Trump’s modeling and jewelry line

. . . reminiscent of Trump’s daughter Ivanka’s appearance with her father after the election on “60 Minutes.” She wore an $11,000 bracelet from her own jewelry line that was touted the next day in a mass email advertisement.

Ivanka’s company also touted a dress she wore at the Republican National Convention, which sold out.

Presidents represent the nation, as do their spouses and children. The White House is not a shopping mall.

--Paul Light

 

[Atilla]

Listening to Sean Spicer on sky news and he sounds really great and passionate and picking up good positive vibes.

Super performance compared to previous day.

 

[dbphoenix]

You should probably get your vibe-o-lator tuned up.

 

[dbphoenix]

Not renewable: Bill would ban utilities from using renewable energy

Don't overlook the video at the bottom.

 

[hhiusa]

White House website touts Melania Trump’s modeling and jewelry line

. . . reminiscent of Trump’s daughter Ivanka’s appearance with her father after the election on “60 Minutes.” She wore an $11,000 bracelet from her own jewelry line that was touted the next day in a mass email advertisement.

Ivanka’s company also touted a dress she wore at the Republican National Convention, which sold out.

Presidents represent the nation, as do their spouses and children. The White House is not a shopping mall.

--Paul Light

How is that a shopping mall. Economics 101. It is called the complimentary goods effect. A factor that effects demand. A basketballer wears Air Jordans and now basketball fans want to wear them.

The First Family will always be in the media and people will try to buy what they buy and what they wear. It is popular because she wore it. No touting necessary.

You obviously agree with Paul Light or else why post it? Throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks.

There is no mention of Ivanka's line or companies.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/

 

[dbphoenix]

The White House website is no longer available in Spanish

President Trump, who chided his opponents during the campaign for speaking Spanish, has made a tangible change to the White House website to eliminate bilingual access.

The site , which the Trump administration took over on Friday, no longer includes an option for translation into Spanish, or another that gives information about access for disabled users that had existed under President Obama.

 

[Atilla]

The White House website is no longer available in Spanish

President Trump, who chided his opponents during the campaign for speaking Spanish, has made a tangible change to the White House website to eliminate bilingual access.

The site , which the Trump administration took over on Friday, no longer includes an option for translation into Spanish, or another that gives information about access for disabled users that had existed under President Obama.

Maybe but Sean Spicer, said they had techies working OT to fix it.

Is it an error or policy to remove it?

 

[hhiusa]

The White House website is no longer available in Spanish

President Trump, who chided his opponents during the campaign for speaking Spanish, has made a tangible change to the White House website to eliminate bilingual access.

The site , which the Trump administration took over on Friday, no longer includes an option for translation into Spanish, or another that gives information about access for disabled users that had existed under President Obama.

throwing spaghetti against the wall it is. why does it need to be available in Spanish? The de facto language is English.

When you click on the English link for Spanish government websites, it doesn't translate everything in the English. It leaves many things in Spanish.

 

[dbphoenix]

U.S. judge finds that Aetna misled the public about its reasons for quitting Obamacare

Aetna claimed this summer that it was pulling out of all but four of the 15 states where it was providing Obamacare individual insurance because of a business decision — it was simply losing too much money on the Obamacare exchanges.

Now a federal judge has ruled that that was a rank falsehood. In fact, says Judge John D. Bates, Aetna made its decision at least partially in response to a federal antitrust lawsuit blocking its proposed $37-billion merger with Humana. Aetna threatened federal officials with the pullout before the lawsuit was filed, and followed through on its threat once it was filed. Bates made the observations in the course of a ruling he issued Monday blocking the merger. . . .

. . . The judge’s conclusions about Aetna’s real reasons for pulling out of Obamacare — as opposed to the rationalization the company made in public — are crucial for the debate over the fate of the Affordable Care Act. That’s because the company’s withdrawal has been exploited by Republicans to justify repealing the act.

 

[dbphoenix]

Re NAFTA:

Kansas City Southern’s stock topped out at about $100 last August, and stood at about $93 on Election Day. It fell to $80 earlier this month—a 14 percent decline from Nov. 8—and now sits at $85.50. It has lost about $800 million in market value.

It’s doubtful this was the outcome Kansas City Southern’s executives were expecting. Clearly, this red-state business—it’s based in Kansas City, Missouri, and its U.S. operation is entirely in other red states—had been set up for a set of policy arrangements that the Republican Party had generally backed. It’s no surprise that in the 2016 election cycle, Kansas City Southern’s PAC sent 86 percent of its donations to Republican candidates. Now it’s found that the presidential candidate of the party it backed seems intent on blowing up its business model, and that Congressional GOP leaders don’t seem to want to get ahead of the speeding Trump train. (more)

 

[dbphoenix]

Interesting article in "The Australian" re renegotiating the TPP to replace the US with China, Indonesia, Canada, and Mexico, which would to a large extent isolate the US.

What a boon to the American worker/Trump voter.:whistling

Malcolm Turnbull opens door to China to join TPP after Donald Trump pulls out

 

[dbphoenix]

And from China:

China Says It Will Lead the World Economy If Western Nations Stand Down