So who's going to be delivering Brexit then?
Just thought I'd clarify my thoughts
I don't think I actually said that! I thought that Osborne was doing not too bad a job until he took leave of his senses during the Brexit campaign. What was wrong with the ideology of lower taxes and the Northern Powerhouse? Think what you like of "Etonites" but I bet you get a better education there then you do at your local Comp.
Nothing wrong with studying history – teaches you to sort the fact from the fiction and understand the workings of intended/unintended consequences.
So he was doing alright until he embarked on Project fear where it all went tits up.
Yeah he was doing alright as chancellor in a very difficult time sorting out Labours mess.
So what about his opinion to remain in EU or not?
He simply backed the wrong horse
His history education hasn't helped him much being a chancellor having a view to
lead the nation with great visionary ideas has it. Northern Powerhouse belongs to Vince baby not him. Tories just steal other peeps ideas don't you know?
You history sales pitch is comical to say the least. G1. Belongs in joke section if you ask me. Are you certain you intended to post it on this thread? :cheesy:
If you were a qualified Historian I suspect that you might take a different view on its usefulness
This might help you get your facts straight
https://www.newstatesman.com/spotlight/devolution/2018/02/economics-new-north-0
LOL Qualified to do what exactly?
Looking at lesson learned - an unintended qualification of studying history is that one may become Chancellor of the Exchequer.
You are on a roll. Keep it up.
Why are you trying to personalise it wrt to lil ol me? :whistling
You must be Spartacus as well I guess.
https://www.lep.co.uk/news/politics/farron-gets-northern-powerhouse-role-1-8801797
Every tom dick and harry claiming the great northern powerhouse theme. It was LibDems Vince Cables role as Secretary of State for Business, Innovation & Skills 2009-2016 in the Tory - LibDem coalition that gave birth to that project.
FFS get your head out your ar5e and for once in your life call a spade a spade.
Your like a bleeding 7 year old in a school playground who spews out b0ll0cks coz he don't know any better. How old are you, exactly?
I'm not particularly wishing to re-flog a dead horse but this piece (and it's a long, long one) is well worth reading because it discusses issues that haven't really been properly aired during the Brexit debate nationally and provides lots of evidence contrary to MSM and common political comment. There is also some worthwhile reader-sourced post article discussion.
It's long and unlikely to interest you if you're not seriously interested in Brexit. Don't say I didn't warn you
https://quillette.com/2018/08/03/britains-populist-revolt/
I'm not particularly wishing to re-flog a dead horse but this piece (and it's a long, long one) is well worth reading because it discusses issues that haven't really been properly aired during the Brexit debate nationally and provides lots of evidence contrary to MSM and common political comment. There is also some worthwhile reader-sourced post article discussion.
It's long and unlikely to interest you if you're not seriously interested in Brexit. Don't say I didn't warn you
https://quillette.com/2018/08/03/britains-populist-revolt/
Waffles of an article but can't really get away from the short termism of it all or it's lack of balance.
This paragraph below captures much of it. I think everybody now gets the picture about refugees, terrorism and also the banking financial crises. Errrmmm that includes EU members. UK could have just as well argued and led the point in EU and may have mustered sport taking a lead off France and Germany. Missed opportunity imo.
As the referendum neared, this sense of threat was further amplified. A major refugee crisis erupted on the European continent while EU member states were openly and bitterly divided over the issue. Such events coincided with major Islamist terrorist attacks, notably in France, that in 2015 alone left nearly 150 dead and more than 350 injured. Suicide bombings would follow in Brussels. More than half of Britain’s population drew a straight line from the refugee crisis to terrorism, believing that the former would increase the latter. To many voters, such events not only entrenched a view that the EU could not be trusted to protect their borders, security, and way of life, but also a belief that ‘the risk’ lay less with Brexit than staying in the club.
We always had Eurosceptics but the whole arguement is that they are by large opportunists and have capitalised on events.
BIG question on how UK will fare post Brexit remains to be seen. Given fall in pound, slow down in economy, stalling of investment and house prices coming down, inflation and interest rates rising the signs are not good imo.
Oh and we are not out of the EU just yet. :whistling
I have no idea what the Brexiteers are leaping about as if they've won some big prize or award. I ask what have Brexiteers exactly delivered?
Happy days
Waffles of an article but can't really get away from the short termism of it all or it's lack of balance.
This paragraph below captures much of it. I think everybody now gets the picture about refugees, terrorism and also the banking financial crises. Errrmmm that includes EU members. UK could have just as well argued and led the point in EU and may have mustered sport taking a lead off France and Germany. Missed opportunity imo.
As the referendum neared, this sense of threat was further amplified. A major refugee crisis erupted on the European continent while EU member states were openly and bitterly divided over the issue. Such events coincided with major Islamist terrorist attacks, notably in France, that in 2015 alone left nearly 150 dead and more than 350 injured. Suicide bombings would follow in Brussels. More than half of Britain’s population drew a straight line from the refugee crisis to terrorism, believing that the former would increase the latter. To many voters, such events not only entrenched a view that the EU could not be trusted to protect their borders, security, and way of life, but also a belief that ‘the risk’ lay less with Brexit than staying in the club.
We always had Eurosceptics but the whole arguement is that they are by large opportunists and have capitalised on events.
BIG question on how UK will fare post Brexit remains to be seen. Given fall in pound, slow down in economy, stalling of investment and house prices coming down, inflation and interest rates rising the signs are not good imo.
Oh and we are not out of the EU just yet. :whistling
I have no idea what the Brexiteers are leaping about as if they've won some big prize or award. I ask when are the Tories going to deliver Brexit exactly?
Happy days
Oh goody...Nigels back and it sounds like he want's to kick some a55
http://www.itv.com/news/2018-08-18/farage-im-back-on-the-road-to-challenge-mays-brexit-plan/
. . . but are they plotting together; is there real unity among the Brexiteers? Nigel Farage has joined Richard Tice's 'Leave Means Leave' campaign, JRM heads up the 'European Research Group' and Boris is, well, just Boris. Then there's 'Get Britain Out', 'Change Britain' and let's not forget UKIP. I'm sure I've missed some out, but I think I've made my point. The Brexiteers appear to me to be a rather splintered group. With the exception of UKIP (as it's a political party, supposedly), it's a shame they can't all coalesce into a single, unified driving force. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts 'n all that.With Nigel, Boris and JRM all plotting it's starting to look like Endgame for the Maybot.
