Biden Presidency and the Consequences.

Rufus_Leakey

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And I'll bet Kamala Harris will be the one pushing the wheelchair up the ramp just as fast as she can.....

This probably won't happen before 2023 because if Kamala Harris replaces Joe Biden, the Democratic Party will no longer have the majority in the U.S. Senate.
117th Congress (2021–2023)
Majority Party: Democrats (48 seats)
Minority Party: Republicans (50 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)
Total Seats: 100

The Republicans could then block the appointment of a new Vice President and any legislation from the new President.
"Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress," Section 2 of the amendment explains.

So don't expect Biden to leave office in the near future.
 
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timsk

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$85 billion worth of military equipment gifted to the Taliban.
I think it's time for everyone on here who criticised Trump to eat their words. Unbelievable level of incompetence from the Biden administration that no one would believe - but for the fact that it's true. Staggering, absolutely mind numbingly stupid.

 
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Atilla

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I was listening to RT News and some of the accounts from US marines are quite interesting. They reported quite often that their commanders didn't know what they were supposed to be doing in Afghanistan and politicians give it a lot of spin.

The Afghan police and army could have continued doing the job the US military did with much fewer troops as long as they had US presence and air support.

One then has to consider that the US has a big army and it's difficult to keep marines busy. If not in Afghanistan then they'd be somewhere else eating up US taxpayers money.

We should also not forget, the US were bombing every hunch and rumour including weddings and disguising civilian deaths as ISIS gatherings. They have a lot of blood of innocents on their hands.

All that death and destructions and now there is talk of ISIS-H and K and all sorts of faction labels to justify continued spending on defence.

Difficult to describe the whole sh!t show as nothing but shenanigans. So the question is, where will all the troops from Afghanistan be deployed next?
 
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alan5616

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It doesn't really matter who the US President is, nor which party he represents. America is controlled by the "deep state", which is a cabal of the CIA, FBI, armaments companies, banks and international corporations.
 

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It doesn't really matter who the US President is, nor which party he represents. America is controlled by the "deep state", which is a cabal of the CIA, FBI, armaments companies, banks and international corporations.
Yeah, the difference is, Trump was on to all of them, whereas Biden doesn't even know what day it is.

Not hard to see why the "deep state" rigged the election to keep Trump out.
 

alan5616

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Your point about a rigged election may have some traction. To me, Trump committed a crime against the people when he withdraw America's support from the Paris agreement. Only by tackling climate change can we hope to leave a world fit for human inhabitation
 
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J Livermore

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Only by tackling climate change can we hope to leave a world fit for human inhabitation
I agree with you that combating climate change is important but if you don’t combat population growth at the same time you are waging a losing war.

Look at it from a mathematical perspective. If we lowered the amount of pollution that each person emitted by 50%, it would be something to celebrate, right? Not so fast. If Earth’s population were to double (like it always has so far) then the environment would be at "break even" again, not a “profit”. Then, if the population were to increase beyond a double (which nothing seems to be able to stop) then the environment is in the "loss" column all over again.

Another thing to consider is the increasing wealth of poor people the world over. They have a growing use of cell phones, the internet and businesses because they don’t want to be poor forever. They want a lifestyle similar to the US, western Europe, Japan, ect. How are we going to manage the environment in the future if poor people the world over start pulling themselves out of poverty (and achieve a high lifestyle) if we don’t lower the world’s birth rate? I hope you don’t advocate keeping the third world citizens poor do you? Everybody deserves prosperity but if we don’t cut the world’s population, pollution is going to go from bad to worse in a rather short period of time.
 
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tomorton

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It doesn't really matter who the US President is, nor which party he represents. America is controlled by the "deep state", which is a cabal of the CIA, FBI, armaments companies, banks and international corporations.
This is a well known conspiracy theory.

A thing which puzzles me about conspiracy theories is that they remain strongly held beliefs, despite the lack of evidence. So if lack of evidence is not a barrier to strongly held beliefs, then surely all conspiracy theories should be held, not just one here or one there. Are there any conspiracy theories which you have looked at and dismissed?
 
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Atilla

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I was listening to RT News and some of the accounts from US marines are quite interesting. They reported quite often that their commanders didn't know what they were supposed to be doing in Afghanistan and politicians give it a lot of spin.

The Afghan police and army could have continued doing the job the US military did with much fewer troops as long as they had US presence and air support.

One then has to consider that the US has a big army and it's difficult to keep marines busy. If not in Afghanistan then they'd be somewhere else eating up US taxpayers money.

We should also not forget, the US were bombing every hunch and rumour including weddings and disguising civilian deaths as ISIS gatherings. They have a lot of blood of innocents on their hands.

All that death and destructions and now there is talk of ISIS-H and K and all sorts of faction labels to justify continued spending on defence.

Difficult to describe the whole sh!t show as nothing but shenanigans. So the question is, where will all the troops from Afghanistan be deployed next?

Now confirmed that the US as their leaving present, bombed an aid worker killing 10 people, 7 of which were children in White Toyota.

Freaky fecking hell. How can they get the intelligence so wrong? Bombing weddings, bombing camera men and now mistaking the loading of water into a car as weapons??? REALLY.

How were they able to mistake 7 children if they had been watching this vehicle for up to 8 hours before???

The car was bombed at a house. Not even en route to any place. Apparently this vehicle posed a threat.

Anyone who believes all this tosh and the TOTAL FUCKUPS of these highly trained men with ultra-high intelligence gotta have their freaking heads examined.

The guy is on telly saying he was responsible for those deaths. We are told US take all precautions to avoid civilian deaths indeed. REALLY??? The hell they do freaking cowboys. There needs to be accountability. Saying it was a mistake is b0ll0cks. Sooo many freaking mistakes.

Apparently over 47,000 civilians were killed in Afghanistan. In contrast 2400+ US marines were killed with 20600+ wounded. What a tragic waste and total balls-up???

So sad.

I feel very sad too. :cry:
 
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alan5616

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The US is the biggest danger to the world. They are responsible for the deaths of millions, including civilians. Remember Saddam Hussein's WMDs, which were used as an excuse by George W Bush to invade Iraq? Those WMDs were never found and, according to UN weapons inspectors, never existed.

The only people to benefit from the war were the Kurds in the North and the Shia in the South. The rest of Iraq is still unstable. The other people to benefit, as they always do, were US weapons manufacturers and oil companies.

I once heard an interview with Alan Greenspan, former chairman of the Federal Reserve. The interviewer asked Greenspan whether the Iraq war was about oil. His response was "probably".
 
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Atilla

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The US is the biggest danger to the world. They are responsible for the deaths of millions, including civilians. Remember Saddam Hussein's WMDs, which were used as an excuse by George W Bush to invade Iraq? Those WMDs were never found and, according to UN weapons inspectors, never existed.

The only people to benefit from the war were the Kurds in the North and the Shia in the South. The rest of Iraq is still unstable. The other people to benefit, as they always do, were US weapons manufacturers and oil companies.

I once heard an interview with Alan Greenspan, former chairman of the Federal Reserve. The interviewer asked Greenspan whether the Iraq war was about oil. His response was "probably".

Yes in the 1990s states were planning oil running out in 30 years. Mosul and Kirkuk had the largest confirmed reserves other than Sauidi Arabia's reserves which were being disputed. Iran's were off the map because they've built their nuclear facilities around them.

Don't forget the dollar standard either! Saddam was selling oil in Euro and refusing Dollars. The Iraqi treasury was getting rich as the dollar fell and Euro climbed to be on par with the dollar. Other countries were considering selling oil in Euro too.

The unthinkable... Can you imagine? Shock horror.
 

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Don't forget the dollar standard either! Saddam was selling oil in Euro and refusing Dollars. The Iraqi treasury was getting rich as the dollar fell and Euro climbed to be on par with the dollar. Other countries were considering selling oil in Euro too.

The unthinkable... Can you imagine? Shock horror.
Spot on!
That is the US biggest fear: dollar losing its magic status of world reserve currency.
 

tomorton

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The US is the biggest danger to the world. They are responsible for the deaths of millions, including civilians. Remember Saddam Hussein's WMDs, which were used as an excuse by George W Bush to invade Iraq? Those WMDs were never found and, according to UN weapons inspectors, never existed.

The only people to benefit from the war were the Kurds in the North and the Shia in the South. The rest of Iraq is still unstable. The other people to benefit, as they always do, were US weapons manufacturers and oil companies.

I once heard an interview with Alan Greenspan, former chairman of the Federal Reserve. The interviewer asked Greenspan whether the Iraq war was about oil. His response was "probably".
What millions of deaths is the US responsible for?
 

Atilla

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What millions of deaths is the US responsible for?

Vietnam war alone notches up about 2m. No idea why the US were fighting some French colonialism objective out in Asia?

Recent Iraq civilians deaths about 500+ K not to mention those tortured abused and left homeless and destitute.
Then there is the infant mortality and deformed babies as a consequences of US using uranium tipped bombs and bullets.

I won't list the all the civilian deaths in Latin America at the hands of fascist dictators sponsored by CIA in the name of keeping socialism and communism back, denying people the right to pick their democratic regimes.

Then there are wars started by US like encouraging Iraq to attack Iran. Iran / Iraq war deaths anything around 500K-3m. Never guess who gave the gas and technology to Sadam to halt Iranian offensives?

I do think we should include people in refugee status as a consequence of US actions too. What a life it must be living in war torn countries.
 
 
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