Brexit and the Consequences

Atilla

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Is this guy speaking any sense? Not sure myself.
He uploads his take on things almost daily. He is a remainer.

Just managed to watch the clip in full.

Certainly sounds plausible and threats have already been made by Brexiteers to turn UK into low corporate tax safe haven to attract hot money flows and industries such as FB and Amazon etc. Luxemberg and Ireland have already been pursuing such silly policies. Not much good to industry or national interest other than providing cheap low end employment which will soon be replaced by AI technologies.

So yes whilst Brexiteers keep banging on about Globalism as if it is some kind of hidden agenda in fact it is quite the opposite vested interest that are behind Brexiteers.

Moggy boy is probably key beneficiary to it all. Cameron's father and his tax evasive money held off-shore likewise.


Dirty filthy very sticky system it all is. (y)
 

Signalcalc

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Boris is slowly turning, we're going to have May's deal MkII, you can't trust the Tories.

Waiting for the second time around stitch-up, Boris is campaigning for the Brexit Party.

 

timsk

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Boris is slowly turning, we're going to have May's deal MkII, you can't trust the Tories.
Sadly, I'm in complete agreement with you Sig'.

We must remember that Boris voted for it (May's deal) the third time it came before Parliament and, prior to writing his now (in)famous 'in' and 'out' letters ahead of the referendum and opting to leave - he was in favour of the EU. He just wants to find a way through it and still be PM at the end of it - and doesn't much care whether or not we leave, remain or have May's BRINO fudge. Personally, I'd rather remain than have that useless deal which - as far as I can tell - isn't what leavers voted for and offers no real advantages while keeping us locked in to the EU with all the associated costs and without any say in how it operates. The only possible good that might come out of it is that the country is so disappointed with how the two main parties have handled Brexit that there's a real shake up in British politics and that a better and fairer system eventually emerges. But I won't be holding my breath!
Tim.
 
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timsk

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Waiting for the second time around stitch-up, Boris is campaigning for the Brexit Party.

Sig',
The DUP are history now. They were the linchpin which gave the Tories a working majority in Parliament - but now that's been lost - so they no longer have any real clout or influence.
Tim.
 

Atilla

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Yes well it's either face jail or face something else.

Numbers don't add up? Well there's a surprise.


Talk is cheap. A lot of brexiteers are in for a very cold shower. Brexiteers promising much and delivering jack. Boris now giving money to social issues he never championed before. For example police numbers. Bit of trumpism going on here. Brake it and then fix it. What a clever boy? How many police were lost under the Tories? How many are they now promising to increase by?

Brexiteers have taken UK back a good 10-20 years imo. Losing potential investments and international credibility. Companies will think twice about locating here that's for sure.
 

Atilla

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Sig',
The DUP are history now. They were the linchpin which gave the Tories a working majority in Parliament - but now that's been lost - so they no longer have any real clout or influence.
Tim.

Another 11 seats that can't be relied upon? No change. As you were. Keep losing seats.

I wonder how many just waiting to join LibDems? :)
 

trendie

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Sig',
The DUP are history now. They were the linchpin which gave the Tories a working majority in Parliament - but now that's been lost - so they no longer have any real clout or influence.
Tim.
Didnt Theresa May bribe them 10Billion for their loyalty a short while ago?
That was money well spent, wasnt it?
Its this shrewd acumen that will hold us in good stead when negotiating trade deals.
 

0007

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Nigel is the only person that can save Brexit – and he's going to have his work cut out! Boris has been outmanoeuvred and there is a noticeable change in his tone. If it carries on like this the Tories are finished and their genuine Brexit MPs will have to sign up to the Brexit Party – the rest no doubt will succumb to what Boris previously described as the vassal state.

The Parliamentary flagrant abuse of constitutional practice assisted by a Commons Speaker who isn't fit to referee a junior school football match is an outrage – the sort of thing that hard left cabals do when they get into power. If Nigel's 25 year campaign fails then we are indeed in for a bleak future.
 

counter_violent

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Remainers and the EU have engineered this mess, the voters know it and they will pay dearly when the election comes.
Boris is hemmed in from both sides, so even if he wants a May MkII tweaked deal, it's doubtful that the EU will offer it and Farage won't entertain it anyhow.
Boris still has many advantages here. He has managed to sideline MP's by proroguing parliament, so we won't be hearing much from them, whilst running down the clock.
Parliament due back on Oct 14th coupled with the EU meeting on the Oct 18th. There simply isn't time for proper scrutiny of any new offering between Oct 18th- 31st and even less time for a meaningful vote in favour of accepting amended proposals.
Also, Boris and his advisers have succeeded in convincing the voters that the situation is one of "the people v parliament", which is entirely correct.
The natural majority is still for leaving the EU, so that much is guaranteed. Leave still has the upper hand but it is incumbent on them to press home the advantage. It is not a time to compromise that position.
Boris/govt have stated that they will not be seeking any extension regardless of any remainer trumped up law forcing us to remain in the EU.

We have to be mindful here that as soon as one side ups the stakes, the other side responds in kind. We are at war and there are no peace talks in the offing. Meanwhile, the clock is still ticking and the matter will be resolved by who has the biggest guns. Hold the line troops. As you were!
 

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