I see what you did there cant', - too clever! ;-)
As a matter of interest, do you not have a view about Brexit - as in in or out - or do you just enjoy keeping us all guessing? You appear to be slightly contrarian in your views, tricky to pin down, not a fence sitter as such or even a liberal, but someone who clearly enjoys left field interventions. That can at times be a tad discombobulating, as all other active subscribers to this thread have made their views on the topic very plain long ago. No need to reply unless you want to - but feel free to clarify if you feel so inclined.
Tim.
I see what you did there cant', - too clever! ;-)
As a matter of interest, do you not have a view about Brexit - as in in or out - or do you just enjoy keeping us all guessing? You appear to be slightly contrarian in your views, tricky to pin down, not a fence sitter as such or even a liberal, but someone who clearly enjoys left field interventions. That can at times be a tad discombobulating, as all other active subscribers to this thread have made their views on the topic very plain long ago. No need to reply unless you want to - but feel free to clarify if you feel so inclined.
Tim.
Too clever for my own good. Boredom makes you do strange things. As to my "position" on Brexit. I have actually excreted this in the past somewhere in the nearing 10,000 turds that make up this thread:
There are arguments both for staying and leaving which I would be dishonest not to acknowledge.
I regard the Referendum as being the one of the most ill-conceived political moves in the last 100-odd years of UK history and one of the worst executed. The current turmoil and loathing is a result of that referendum and has little to do with whether we are in or out of Europe/EU.
I did not vote as this result was (to me) a foregone conclusion - call me awkward but shooting myself in the foot isn't one of my favourite pass times. The vote either way was always an absurdity in that asking the uninformed and unreasoning populace to make an informed and reasoned decision to the most ridiculous of questions was a non-starter. I regard the choice
as presented to be along the lines of "Would you prefer to drink acid or slowly stick kebab skewers in both your eyes?" but had there been a petition or a referendum to demand parliamentary debate on the whole issue of the terms of our EU membership, I would have voted "yes" in an instant.
The whole Brexit issue is pack of lies from both sides of the fence as in reality it has never been a binary issue - our relationship with the nations of Europe was and is not defined by our membership of the EU just as it won't be defined by once again not being members. What started to happen the moment the votes were in is a process that can only end in the general consensus that the current government/parliament/ the UK political system is incapable of resolving the issue to the satisfaction of a clear majority.
So, to recap - the country was conned when we joined, conned during our membership and conned as we leave and these star performances were not inflicted on us by the nasty foreigners but by our own dear politicos. Rest assured, the con will continue after we've left and to my mind it'll be a toss-up as to whether any of the benefits of that membership will be retained or even understood until after they've dissolved in the new post-Cock Up reality. 40 odd years down the drain with bugger all to show for it. ....and just think of the next round of choices that are about to be presented: Rees fucking Mogg, Corbyn the Cretin and the UKIP comedy show. So go ahead, spin the wheel and make your bets because they don't matter - the House always wins.
