No longer a place for Scose

NVP

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If T2W is on the wane it might be to do with teh general trading environment as much as the site or teh
management. On-line trading, particularly spread betting, boomed in the 2000s. A lot of teh new wave of punters ended up here, before disappearing in the wake of teh crash. Even though new mugs are born every minute, I think teh supply doesn't keep pace with the teh number leaving because they've blown too many accounts.
I am in truth amazed at what is happening at T2W re all these endless discussions on quality and the old days and the rise of newbies and blah blah blah ....

the % saturation of newbie posts is due to one simple thing ......the absence of Experienced Trader Threads

What Trade2win urgently needs is more experienced Traders sharing more about how they trade profitably and to spend some time helping New traders on their path to trading profitably.....

They dont have to declare all their innermost secrets (god forbid;)) ....just give back the time they will have received in their career path from mentors and contributors

its not rocket science.......bother to look back over the years and you will see some classic classic threads from traders that knew their stuff and were prepared to share some of it ..........sure some (most) were vendors..........and we are having these discussions all the time here at T2W now regarding Vendors contributions....

We have to all realise that professionalism is not the curse of the devil if managed correctly and given 100% transparency to T2W members .....these are the guys that have spent thousands of hours learning their skill....and if they hav'nt they will be found out very quickly in the quality of their dealings and subject matter on the threads they launch ..........because this Forum is definately very good at policing threads :p

for example since 2004 I have tried here to share my own ideas on Forex strengthmeter trading .....and in truth I dont share that much here at T2W ....but I am always willing to support people that want to ask questions and take it forwards ....thats what I try to contribute here with the time I have available .....as I saw many many people being helped in 2004 by Experienced traders when i joined T2W

so its time for all the so called experts here at T2W to step up and start being counted as true contributors instead of all sitting there silent or complaining.....Jees the forum is light years better and more friendlier than most of the other trading sites out there ............FF is the most unfriendliest Forum I have ever worked in and I am classified now as a regular contributer :cool:

come on everyone ...you wont like what I have posted but things never change unless people get of their butt and do something

Jees ;)
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Benj1981

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I am in truth amazed at what is happening at T2W re all these endless discussions on quality and the old days and the rise of newbies and blah blah blah ....

the % saturation of newbie posts is due to one simple thing ......the absence of Experienced Trader Threads

What Trade2win urgently needs is more experienced Traders sharing more about how they trade profitably and to spend some time helping New traders on their path to trading profitably.....

They dont have to declare all their innermost secrets (god forbid;)) ....just give back the time they will have received in their career path from mentors and contributors

its not rocket science.......bother to look back over the years and you will see some classic classic threads from traders that knew their stuff and were prepared to share some of it ..........sure some (most) were vendors..........and we are having these discussions all the time here at T2W now regarding Vendors contributions....

We have to all realise that professionalism is not the curse of the devil if managed correctly and given 100% transparency to T2W members .....these are the guys that have spent thousands of hours learning their skill....and if they hav'nt they will be found out very quickly in the quality of their dealings and subject matter on the threads they launch ..........because this Forum is definately very good at policing threads :p

for example since 2004 I have tried here to share my own ideas on Forex strengthmeter trading .....and in truth I dont share that much here at T2W ....but I am always willing to support people that want to ask questions and take it forwards ....thats what I try to contribute here with the time I have available .....as I saw many many people being helped in 2004 by Experienced traders when i joined T2W

so its time for all the so called experts here at T2W to step up and start being counted as true contributors instead of all sitting there silent or complaining.....Jees the forum is light years better and more friendlier than most of the other trading sites out there ............FF is the most unfriendliest Forum I have ever worked in and I am classified now as a regular contributer :cool:

come on everyone ...you wont like what I have posted but things never change unless people get of their butt and do something

Jees ;)
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Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya, oo ooh kumbayaaaaa... :clap:
 

NVP

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Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya, oo ooh kumbayaaaaa... :clap:
hahahahahahaha :LOL:

halfway through my rant I did feel like it was the presidents address to the nation

sorry ......:eek:
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Benj1981

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hahahahahahaha :LOL:

halfway through my rant I did feel like it was the presidents address to the nation

sorry ......:eek:
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Credit to you for trying, however, even when some "expertise" is shared, it goes over the head of the ones in need of it most. The other problem; is that most on here willing to share, shouldn't be sharing in the first place! And then you get to the unanswerable age-old trading forum problem: how do you know for sure someone is profitable, and hence, is worth listening to??
 

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And then you get to the unanswerable age-old trading forum problem: how do you know for sure someone is profitable, and hence, is worth listening to??
I can't answer that one irrefutably, but you take advice from someone and it improves your trading - in any manner you wish to define that - then it would be an odds-on bet they are probably, though not necessarily profitable.

But I don't believe their profitability is the issue.

More of a compelling point is are they more capable, experienced and skilled in areas in which I am not? Even if they have one or more major flaws which prevent them from trading profitably, but they can advise others successfully on every other aspect - would you turn down their advice?

This then begs the question how do you know what is good advice and what is not good advice? My personal solution to that one is to go with my instincts. The worst case is you try something which doesn't work - for you - and you discard it.

All of the advice I have been given from those whom I have been willing and happy to take it has been extremely worthwhile.
 
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timsk

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Hi Benji,
. . .however, even when some "expertise" is shared, it goes over the head of the ones in need of it most.
Perhaps, but that's not the fault of either the 'expert' or the newbie. It's good that the former posts so that their market insights are available for those who are ready to understand and appreciate them. And the latter have to learn to walk before they can run - and there's any amount of starter info' to enable them to do just that.

The other problem; is that most on here willing to share, shouldn't be sharing in the first place!
That's not the case. This is a free forum which anyone can join and express a view. Sure, many posts contain incorrect statements about the markets, but that's the nature of the beast. It's then down to the so called 'experts' to point out the mistakes, explain why they're incorrect and then point them in the right direction. It doesn't always work, but often as not it does. This is an open discussion forum: everyone is welcome to share their views.

And then you get to the unanswerable age-old trading forum problem: how do you know for sure someone is profitable, and hence, is worth listening to?
You don't. But, IMO, you're making a fundamental error in only wanting to listen to and engage with profitable traders. If that's what you want to do, then you'll need to find another forum that caters for it.

If there was evidence to suggest that all profitable traders talk the absolute truth and all unprofitable traders talk various shades of bollox, then your concern would have validity. However, that's not the case. The profitability or otherwise of any one member is not relevant to me and has no bearing on my own ability to trade profitably. It's what I do with the information that I read that matters, and whether or not I can use it to my advantage. Either I can or I can't. Either way, knowing that the trader who posted it is profitable or unprofitable is of zero interest or use to me. So, my advice to you is to use your own common sense and good judgement as to who is worth listening to and who to quickly pass over!
;)
Tim.
 

Benj1981

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I can't answer that one irrefutably, but you take advice from someone and it improves your trading - in any manner you wish to define that - then it would be an odds-on bet they are probably, though not necessarily profitable.

But I don't believe their profitability is the issue.

More of a compelling point is are they more capable, experienced and skilled in areas in which I am not? Even if they have one or more major flaws which prevent them from trading profitably, but they can advise others successfully on every other aspect - would you turn down their advice?

This then begs the question how do you know what is good advice and what is not good advice? My personal solution to that one is to go with my instincts. The worst case is you try something which doesn't work - for you - and you discard it.

All of the advice I have been given from those whom I have been willing and happy to take it has been extremely worthwhile.
I wouldn't take advice from a net loser on any aspect of trading, but that's just me. If you're happy to do that, then go for it, but chances are it'll cost you money and time. A lot of both I'd bet.

You could validate advice through means of backtesting over a huge sample of trades, preferably in the 1000's. But lets be honest, 90% here want a quick buck and won't put the required effort in, so that's out the window!

Everyone should do what they want, then they'll get the results they want.

GTTY.
 

Benj1981

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Hi Benji,
Perhaps, but that's not the fault of either the 'expert' or the newbie. It's good that the former posts so that their market insights are available for those who are ready to understand and appreciate them. And the latter have to learn to walk before they can run - and there's any amount of starter info' to enable them to do just that.

That's not the case. This is a free forum which anyone can join and express a view. Sure, many posts contain incorrect statements about the markets, but that's the nature of the beast. It's then down to the so called 'experts' to point out the mistakes, explain why they're incorrect and then point them in the right direction. It doesn't always work, but often as not it does. This is an open discussion forum: everyone is welcome to share their views.

You don't. But, IMO, you're making a fundamental error in only wanting to listen to and engage with profitable traders. If that's what you want to do, then you'll need to find another forum that caters for it.

If there was evidence to suggest that all profitable traders talk the absolute truth and all unprofitable traders talk various shades of bollox, then your concern would have validity. However, that's not the case. The profitability or otherwise of any one member is not relevant to me and has no bearing on my own ability to trade profitably. It's what I do with the information that I read that matters, and whether or not I can use it to my advantage. Either I can or I can't. Either way, knowing that the trader who posted it is profitable or unprofitable is of zero interest or use to me. So, my advice to you is to use your own common sense and good judgement as to who is worth listening to and who to quickly pass over!
;)
Tim.
We're talkin about whats gonna lead to someone making any dough on here, not that warm fuzzy feelin u get for givin advice to a fellow net loser.
 

barjon

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I wouldn't take advice from a net loser on any aspect of trading, but that's just me. If you're happy to do that, then go for it, but chances are it'll cost you money and time. A lot of both I'd bet.

You could validate advice through means of backtesting over a huge sample of trades, preferably in the 1000's. But lets be honest, 90% here want a quick buck and won't put the required effort in, so that's out the window!

Everyone should do what they want, then they'll get the results they want.

GTTY.
mmm, I would say listen to everyone but never accept anything as gospel without checking it out and validating it yourself.
 

pboyles

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I dont actually remember a time when anyone gave out advice that would actually have helped you make money. I do remember following someone's thread for months on end as he'd been voted 'most helpful member', sure the guy was helpful enough it's just that he kept chopping and changing every two minutes and never really made any money, then he disappeared. I don't remember his name, he was living in Norway or Sweden and had an Arabic sounding name.
 

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