No longer a place for Scose

Shakone

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I don't disagree, Split. This thread is more a way of saying thank you to people like yourself and to maybe get a few email addresses rather than anything else.

You're rightthough. Maybe something will pique my interest at some point but I'll probably finally break into mutinicing if I respond lol.
But isn't your current username a multinic of Technically Fundamental? :innocent:
 

scose-no-doubt

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scose.........we all learnt long ago the UK is full of zombies drugged on celebrity tv shows and how to get money for nothing .....

working and aspiring to better tihings is dead for whole generation who now put their hand out for parents & taxpayers money to fund their next mobile text bill or their audition on the X factor

its an age thing dude ..........we were probably the same worry to our parents

or perhaps not..........

N
I'm 28 lol
 

Vasco da Banana

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or have you had them so long you've forgotten what they're worth. I challenge you to a talk off. Go into the street and pick 10 people at random to discuss high finance with and I'm sure you'll see what I'm talking about.

Anyway, drop me your email by pm if you like. I'm sure we could get something together, a skype room perhaps, at some point.
About time someone started a lulz skype room for teh T2Loosers.
 

Benj1981

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PS - for any new members, it may be worth asking why this place is now full of brand newbie spread betting punters instead of having a roster like yesteryear, where people like myself, holding memberships in three professional organisations, disciplines including investments and accountancy, as well as holding an advanced degree in finance and investment banking, was a green horn.

Strange eh :clap:
:LOL::LOL::LOL:

oooooooooo memberships to "professional organisations" - wow!!! unless u make any money buddy no1 gives a hoot bout anything else.
 

DionysusToast

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Scose has had more comebacks than Frank Sinatra. See you soon.
It's a cry for help that's all. Don't take the suicide note too seriously.

She's not really trying to kill herself, it's just an overdose of laxatives.

Expect an increased posting rate when they kick in.
 

Shakone

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Scose what makes you think your account would be taken away?

Are you planning something?
 

Steve

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PS - for any new members, it may be worth asking why this place is now full of brand newbie spread betting punters instead of having a roster like yesteryear, where people like myself, holding memberships in three professional organisations, disciplines including investments and accountancy, as well as holding an advanced degree in finance and investment banking, was a green horn.

Strange eh :clap:
You tell me Scose. When I came here it was Steve do this, Steve do that, it will be a better place for it. So I did. I cleaned everything up so people like you could return to making sensible and helpful posts but guess what? It did not happen. All you and the rest of them wanted was to use T2W as a lulz facility. I said at the time that lulz was OK as long as it was balanced by other contributions. But the lulz carried on without the contribution - apart from those attacking T2W of course.

If the end result is a forum that caters for the needs of newbies to spreadbetting and forex then I'm afraid it is the result of the current realities. If the community that used to be here will not re-engage on a regular basis about more than non- trading subjects then it leaves us no choice.

So you can stay or you can go. I would prefer stay but I doubt you'll make the effort to share what you undoubtedly believe is worth listening to.
 

Shakone

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You tell me Scose. When I came here it was Steve do this, Steve do that, it will be a better place for it. So I did. I cleaned everything up so people like you could return to making sensible and helpful posts but guess what? It did not happen. All you and the rest of them wanted was to use T2W as a lulz facility. I said at the time that lulz was OK as long as it was balanced by other contributions. But the lulz carried on without the contribution - apart from those attacking T2W of course.

If the end result is a forum that caters for the needs of newbies to spreadbetting and forex then I'm afraid it is the result of the current realities. If the community that used to be here will not re-engage on a regular basis about more than non- trading subjects then it leaves us no choice.

So you can stay or you can go. I would prefer stay but I doubt you'll make the effort to share what you undoubtedly believe is worth listening to.
I suppose things have a trend that is not easy to turn around. When you arrived, the trend was already downward, and a lot of good members had already gone. Some good contributors were banned too for being abusive or whatever. After you arrived some more were banned for lulz or for criticising the site. The vendor situation has improved (although now there are more that are trying to circumvent this in sneaky ways), but content is still probably trending down, and so is the humour element, and banning good contributors on both counts hasn't helped.
 
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Steve

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I suppose things have a trend that is not easy to turn around. When you arrived, the trend was already downward, and a lot of good members had already gone. Some good contributors were banned too for being abusive or whatever. After you arrived some more were banned for lulz or for criticising the site. The vendor situation has improved (although now there are more that are trying to circumvent this in sneaky ways), but content is still probably trending down, and so is the humour element, and banning good contributors on both counts hasn't helped.
I agree completely, there was a phase when we lost some important contributors and we have to take that on the chin. Once people are established elsewhere it is very difficult to get them back and that applies to any community, trading or otherwise.

To be clear about one thing though, I took a very firm hold of the banning process when I started to get stuck in and resisted many calls for certain individuals to be banned.

I really don't think that anyone was banned unreasonably.

I made repeated calls for one individual who found every opportunity to slate what we were doing, to talk to me so we could deal with the issues of concern. These offers were never taken up and the abuse continued. In the end I was left with no choice.

Another individual who was tolerated for much longer here than he/she would have been elsewhere, did the inevitable (for him/her) and resorted to posting pornographic imagery.

Another one who ended up in a spat, that led to the very public resignation of barjon, simply disappeared.

So there's been no unreasonable banning while I have been at the helm and I don't think the down trend has been impacted one way or another by finally terminating those who deserved nothing else.

You can only trade on previous contribution history for so long. this is what I am saying to SND - post the good stuff and the lulz tolerances widen, it's quid pro quo but even then there have to be boundaries, but our's are pretty flexible I think.
 

Shakone

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I agree completely, there was a phase when we lost some important contributors and we have to take that on the chin. Once people are established elsewhere it is very difficult to get them back and that applies to any community, trading or otherwise.

To be clear about one thing though, I took a very firm hold of the banning process when I started to get stuck in and resisted many calls for certain individuals to be banned.

I really don't think that anyone was banned unreasonably.

I made repeated calls for one individual who found every opportunity to slate what we were doing, to talk to me so we could deal with the issues of concern. These offers were never taken up and the abuse continued. In the end I was left with no choice.

Another individual who was tolerated for much longer here than he/she would have been elsewhere, did the inevitable (for him/her) and resorted to posting pornographic imagery.

Another one who ended up in a spat, that led to the very public resignation of barjon, simply disappeared.

So there's been no unreasonable banning while I have been at the helm and I don't think the down trend has been impacted one way or another by finally terminating those who deserved nothing else.

You can only trade on previous contribution history for so long. this is what I am saying to SND - post the good stuff and the lulz tolerances widen, it's quid pro quo but even then there have to be boundaries, but our's are pretty flexible I think.
Yes, you can't force a change. You can only create the conditions for it. And some of these issues, like the hare had with the site, can be personal and can go back a long time.

I don't know if the others you mention are The Leopard and Lightning McQueen, but I wouldn't think any of these type of bannings were reasonable (what did happen to LM anyway?).

We disagreed on this in the past, so I won't labour it, except to say that someone whose agenda is to be critical of the site will either want to be banned so that the site looks worse for banning them or if banned can return with another username to continue the criticisms. So I'm not sure what you gain by banning them.
 

Steve

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Yes, you can't force a change. You can only create the conditions for it. And some of these issues, like the hare had with the site, can be personal and can go back a long time.

I don't know if the others you mention are The Leopard and Lightning McQueen, but I wouldn't think any of these type of bannings were reasonable (what did happen to LM anyway?).

We disagreed on this in the past, so I won't labour it, except to say that someone whose agenda is to be critical of the site will either want to be banned so that the site looks worse for banning them or if banned can return with another username to continue the criticisms. So I'm not sure what you gain by banning them.
lM was not banned, I wish he were still here as I think he was a valuable contributor. Also when he criticised it was often sharp but in a constructive way. It all went wrong when we had all those spammers a while back and we were not acting in the way LM thought we should.

I opened a line of dialogue with him and all seemed fine, then he just left!
 

trendie

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Sorry to hear you're leaving SND.
Hope you reconsider and stay.

If you do go, best wishes for you.
 

Vasco da Banana

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If T2W is on the wane it might be to do with teh general trading environment as much as the site or teh
management. On-line trading, particularly spread betting, boomed in the 2000s. A lot of teh new wave of punters ended up here, before disappearing in the wake of teh crash. Even though new mugs are born every minute, I think teh supply doesn't keep pace with the teh number leaving because they've blown too many accounts.