Sandy Jadeja - Trading Course Singapore

Dr P Joseph

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Sandy Jadeja's Claims regarding CNBC

@Jason Tan:

I would like to thank you for your feedback and contribution of your experiences to this thread.
While we are happy that you had positive experiences with Mr Sandy, there are quite a few who did not have the same experiences as you.
We are focussing on only FACTS and OBJECTIVE details regarding our experiences with Mr Sandy in Singapore, so that others who want to know of his course would be in a better position to decide.

Also. I am not sure if you are aware..

ALL trainers intending to teach forex or other trading techniques to the general public have to submit ALL their teaching material and clearly explain to the MAS (Monetary Authority Singapore) what all they are intending to say during either their FREE Seminars AND/OR the PAID workshops, so that innocent public do not get false impressions regarding the possible losses that they maybe going to make in the course of their trades !

This was what I was told, at any rate, and I think it is true.Correct me if I am wrong.
Not sure if Mr Sandy had done done the submission to the MAS.

Especially regarding the points that he intends to teach people how to use the pattern of Solar Flares and predict the movement of the Euro , thus making $1000-3000 in the process.
I understand that traders who made similar claims in the past had received Written Warnings from the MAS ! And told to rerain from making such claims in the future.
This is again what I was told, but this can certainly be confirmed with the MAS , if it is not illegal to make claims that one would teach how to make lots of money using the solar flare patterns!

There were a LOT of retirees in the audience during the Free Seminars, who have little knowledge of trading and ar eeasily taken in by the claims of huge amounts of money that one can make. I hope that at least after reading these posts, they ll think twice.. Before making their own decision.

Firstly it is common practise in singapore to complain. And as a local Singaporean I am sad to say that we all find any reason to complain about anything and this goes for my friends as well as myself at times.

I am firstly not a Singaporean but an US Permanent Resident who practises both in the US and in also in London, UK as per the requirements of my hospital branches. I was staying in Singapore on contract for the last several months and must say that I not only like Singapore a lot, but also that I beg to disagree that Singaporeans complain a lot ! In fact I find that people from certain other countries are ready to sue at the drop of a hat !

I am not only busy most of the time with my clinical work, saving lives, but also have administrative and teaching responsibilities as I am also a Professor of Medicine teaching would-be doctors.
Normally, thus, I would refrain from indulging in posts of this kind, but my engineering and other friends pointed out that unless I post the evidence that I have, it could possibly be a question mark on my integrity itself, which is why I had decided to upload SOME of the screenshots of the text messages from my mobile phone.

I address your other statement shown below:

As for cnbc, he has never claimed he works for them except that he is occasionally a guest on the show. In his seminars he clearly shows that he has shown specific types of analysis on there as any trader would.

I am uploading screenshots from my mobile.The first shot (Photo1) shows date as 16 Oct 2013, the day for when I was given an appointment to meet him, which he emailed a day prior to me.
This was in Singapore and he claimed in it that he was called by the CNBC.
Second message (photo2) also shows it clearly.
As stated in my earlier post, a quick call to CNBC by my secretary showed that he had NO interview scheduled at that time !

Third screenshot(photo 3 ) shows that he did not accept calls at 245 as promised earlier.
Till 20 Oct 2013, he neither responded to calls nor to emails !
That too after giving appointments to me !

This shows clearly how much he cares about others' time.
Not sure if had attended his free seminar at Cuppage Plaza on 5 Oct 2013 (9 to 5 pm), but during the seminar he had clearly given us the impression that he is repeatedly called to cbnc to give interviews and talks. I do not know whether he really works for them, however...

By the way, if anyone has any questions regarding the authencity of the text messages, then either contact Mr Sandy directly to verify, or with the permission of the Admins, I would consider putting up screenshots with his mobile number (btw, he had given his mobile number publicly to all during his free seminars).

The fact is when I signed up for the course he did accept credit card payments as there we clearly a credit card facility there. Some people asked if they could pay cash or cheque and the staff said they could but they preferred card payments. (So this is completely the opposite of what has been posted).

This could be YOUR experience. I have an email where he CLEARLY states that cash will only be taken ( or maximum, a local cheque, though he later told on phone that ONLY cash would be taken).
This is certainly not "last minute" ... there is quite a lot of time between 16th of October 2013 and 1st of December 2013 ( the date when he was going to take the Workshop).
He had CLEARLY told me that NO credit cards would be accepted !
It is possible, from what you say, that he would ask for cash from only some students, or maybe, that now he has changed his ways and is accepting credit cards .

Also Receipts were issued. On the day of the workshop there were 2 members of staff who were handing out receipts once you signed in. So again it is untrue that receipts were not given...

I did not attend his PAID workshop, so I cannot say anything about receipts regarding MY experience. However, some of my other friends who did attend his workshops earlier told me that he declined credit cards as well as that he did not issue receipts.

Please note that as far as the law is concerned, ONE single instance of wrong-doing is enough to get into trouble. One maybe giving receipts to a hundred people, but if he/she declines them to even ONE person, that is still wrong !
I have the email where he asks me to get the $3800 in CASH, but I would , at least at this point of time, refrain from posting it online, as my intention is NOT to cause Mr Sandy any serious trouble.

Photo no 4 which I had uploaded, shows my text msg where, after it, he finally rang me, and was extremely rude, as stated in my earlier post.

I have contacted him several times via email and he does respond and I agree it is not on the same day but he has answered all of my questions to my satisfaction. And he was tweeting when he worked for a broker which he clearly stated that he does not tweet anymore but does provide alerts on when the market has changed trend.

That maybe your experience, but in the last phone call that he'd made to me, at that time, he told me clearly that even ONE email a MONTH was too much for him and that I couldn't expect him to answer it.

I do know some of the other classes taught in singapore make outrageous claims but sandy's course is not one of them and as a trainer he is very approachable and helpful.
Sorry but my experiences TOTALLY differ, though I regret to say so...

And I can state that there are trainers here in singapore who send their own staff to other trainers courses to get the course material and then copy this and at the same time sabotage the trainer. This is a fact and very common here.
I certainly am not a trainer nor am affiliated to them and I can be approached at my office if required !

Putting other people down is very nasty and finding faults is easy.

Certainly not our aim to do so. But to let people know objectively of our experiences with him.

His course teaches how to have tight stop losses and so there are students who have not stuck with the method.

The so-called "tight stops" made my friends lose a LOT of money, to the tune of a few thousands.Of course in the last few weeks, when the Dow etc are on a strong upswing, there is no need for Sandy to tell one to buy and hold one's positions , and a lot of my friends who did buy and hold , made a lot of money !

Finally, I would like to end this by saying that it is NOT my aim to put Mr Sandy in trouble or show him in a bad light...Which is why I have not bothered to upload either the email that he'd sent or the other evidences, like the phone call.

Certainly, at the very least, I think that Mr Sandy has absolutely no right to be rude, like he was to me, on 20 Oct 2013, on the phone.
And I hope that even if he cannot muster the courage to post an apology, that at least seeing all these posts, he would turn over into a better person and stop making all the outrageous claims regarding the money that he can help people make !
 

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cablemonster

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@Jason Tan:

I would like to thank you for your feedback and contribution of your experiences to this thread.
While we are happy that you had positive experiences with Mr Sandy, there are quite a few who did not have the same experiences as you.
We are focussing on only FACTS and OBJECTIVE details regarding our experiences with Mr Sandy in Singapore, so that others who want to know of his course would be in a better position to decide.

Also. I am not sure if you are aware..

ALL trainers intending to teach forex or other trading techniques to the general public have to submit ALL their teaching material and clearly explain to the MAS (Monetary Authority Singapore) what all they are intending to say during either their FREE Seminars AND/OR the PAID workshops, so that innocent public do not get false impressions regarding the possible losses that they maybe going to make in the course of their trades !

This was what I was told, at any rate, and I think it is true.Correct me if I am wrong.
Not sure if Mr Sandy had done done the submission to the MAS.

Especially regarding the points that he intends to teach people how to use the pattern of Solar Flares and predict the movement of the Euro , thus making $1000-3000 in the process.
I understand that traders who made similar claims in the past had received Written Warnings from the MAS ! And told to rerain from making such claims in the future.
This is again what I was told, but this can certainly be confirmed with the MAS , if it is not illegal to make claims that one would teach how to make lots of money using the solar flare patterns!

There were a LOT of retirees in the audience during the Free Seminars, who have little knowledge of trading and ar eeasily taken in by the claims of huge amounts of money that one can make. I hope that at least after reading these posts, they ll think twice.. Before making their own decision.



I am firstly not a Singaporean but an US Permanent Resident who practises both in the US and in also in London, UK as per the requirements of my hospital branches. I was staying in Singapore on contract for the last several months and must say that I not only like Singapore a lot, but also that I beg to disagree that Singaporeans complain a lot ! In fact I find that people from certain other countries are ready to sue at the drop of a hat !

I am not only busy most of the time with my clinical work, saving lives, but also have administrative and teaching responsibilities as I am also a Professor of Medicine teaching would-be doctors.
Normally, thus, I would refrain from indulging in posts of this kind, but my engineering and other friends pointed out that unless I post the evidence that I have, it could possibly be a question mark on my integrity itself, which is why I had decided to upload SOME of the screenshots of the text messages from my mobile phone.

I address your other statement shown below:



I am uploading screenshots from my mobile.The first shot (Photo1) shows date as 16 Oct 2013, the day for when I was given an appointment to meet him, which he emailed a day prior to me.
This was in Singapore and he claimed in it that he was called by the CNBC.
Second message (photo2) also shows it clearly.
As stated in my earlier post, a quick call to CNBC by my secretary showed that he had NO interview scheduled at that time !

Third screenshot(photo 3 ) shows that he did not accept calls at 245 as promised earlier.
Till 20 Oct 2013, he neither responded to calls nor to emails !
That too after giving appointments to me !

This shows clearly how much he cares about others' time.
Not sure if had attended his free seminar at Cuppage Plaza on 5 Oct 2013 (9 to 5 pm), but during the seminar he had clearly given us the impression that he is repeatedly called to cbnc to give interviews and talks. I do not know whether he really works for them, however...

By the way, if anyone has any questions regarding the authencity of the text messages, then either contact Mr Sandy directly to verify, or with the permission of the Admins, I would consider putting up screenshots with his mobile number (btw, he had given his mobile number publicly to all during his free seminars).



This could be YOUR experience. I have an email where he CLEARLY states that cash will only be taken ( or maximum, a local cheque, though he later told on phone that ONLY cash would be taken).
This is certainly not "last minute" ... there is quite a lot of time between 16th of October 2013 and 1st of December 2013 ( the date when he was going to take the Workshop).
He had CLEARLY told me that NO credit cards would be accepted !
It is possible, from what you say, that he would ask for cash from only some students, or maybe, that now he has changed his ways and is accepting credit cards .



I did not attend his PAID workshop, so I cannot say anything about receipts regarding MY experience. However, some of my other friends who did attend his workshops earlier told me that he declined credit cards as well as that he did not issue receipts.

Please note that as far as the law is concerned, ONE single instance of wrong-doing is enough to get into trouble. One maybe giving receipts to a hundred people, but if he/she declines them to even ONE person, that is still wrong !
I have the email where he asks me to get the $3800 in CASH, but I would , at least at this point of time, refrain from posting it online, as my intention is NOT to cause Mr Sandy any serious trouble.

Photo no 4 which I had uploaded, shows my text msg where, after it, he finally rang me, and was extremely rude, as stated in my earlier post.



That maybe your experience, but in the last phone call that he'd made to me, at that time, he told me clearly that even ONE email a MONTH was too much for him and that I couldn't expect him to answer it.


Sorry but my experiences TOTALLY differ, though I regret to say so...


I certainly am not a trainer nor am affiliated to them and I can be approached at my office if required !



Certainly not our aim to do so. But to let people know objectively of our experiences with him.



The so-called "tight stops" made my friends lose a LOT of money, to the tune of a few thousands.Of course in the last few weeks, when the Dow etc are on a strong upswing, there is no need for Sandy to tell one to buy and hold one's positions , and a lot of my friends who did buy and hold , made a lot of money !

Finally, I would like to end this by saying that it is NOT my aim to put Mr Sandy in trouble or show him in a bad light...Which is why I have not bothered to upload either the email that he'd sent or the other evidences, like the phone call.

Certainly, at the very least, I think that Mr Sandy has absolutely no right to be rude, like he was to me, on 20 Oct 2013, on the phone.
And I hope that even if he cannot muster the courage to post an apology, that at least seeing all these posts, he would turn over into a better person and stop making all the outrageous claims regarding the money that he can help people make !

Hi Dr P

On the subject of trading it seems otherwise very intelligent people seem to lose all rationality and the need to do due diligence. When you were training to become a doctor did you check that the people who taught you were suitably qualified and experienced to do so?

I am not having a pop, far from it. I just find it amazing that otherwise intelligent people are willing to hand over large sums of money without completing any due diligence.

I have no idea if this Jadeja guy is a ripping people off or not, all I can say is that there are countless examples of people scamming others in the 'learn to trade industry'.

G/L
 

neil

Legendary member
5,167 749
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Hi Dr P

On the subject of trading it seems otherwise very intelligent people seem to lose all rationality and the need to do due diligence. When you were training to become a doctor did you check that the people who taught you were suitably qualified and experienced to do so?

I am not having a pop, far from it. I just find it amazing that otherwise intelligent people are willing to hand over large sums of money without completing any due diligence.

I have no idea if this Jadeja guy is a ripping people off or not, all I can say is that there are countless examples of people scamming others in the 'learn to trade industry'.

G/L

Someone states they are a Doctor or Chaos theory expert ! How do you know that they are what they say they are ?
Putting a title in front of your name is one way of hooking the stupid and gullible out there.
Something to think about.

J. Ester
Professor of trading grail studies
 
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Dr P Joseph

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Someone states they are a Doctor or Chaos theory expert ! How do you know that they are what they say they are ?
Putting a title in front of your name is one way of hooking the stupid and gullible out there.
Something to think about.

It is immaterial that a title is necessary for someone to tell the TRUTH.
I have posted the SCREENSHOTS from my phone.

I think now I may consider posting a screen of the email message that Mr Sandy had sent me, asking me to get the amount of $3800 in cash !
I also think maybe I should consider letting the MAS in Singapore kow, instead of replying to people like you , neil...

For the record, I am available in Singapore in case you or anyone, especially from Law Enforcement wants to contact me, at my Clinic. Let me know, using your REAL IDENTITY, should you want the proofs and I would let you know. There is no need for me to hide behind fake names and degrees !
 

Techlord

Junior member
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@Neil:

You are welcome to post YOUR EXPERIENCES, if any regarding Mr Sandy, if possible, with evidence.
Kindly help keep my thread on track.

If you are unable to contribute quality material to this thread, please open a thread of your own to say whatever you want to say.

In this thread, we are only enumerating facts that were witnessed by hundreds of Singaporeans during Mr Sandy's Free Seminars where he claimed to help people make lots of money with very little capital, using even the Solar Flares to predict the Euro's movements etc !

If you can't contribute facts, please at least have the decency to stay away from this thread.

I appreciate our good doctor who was able to provide evidence regarding the CNBC matter with the screenshots of his mobile.

If you have anything similar (good or bad) regarding Mr Sandy's workshops to contribute, then please do so.
Regardless of whether he is a doctor or not, he was able to provide evidence, while at the same time being nice enough not to post harmful material like the email, online. The fact that you are affected by our good doctor's post and screenshots speaks volumes, that truth indeed hurts !

Thank you.
 

Dr P Joseph

Newbie
4 2
This thread is about Sandy's Claims

Hi Dr P
On the subject of trading it seems otherwise very intelligent people seem to lose all rationality and the need to do due diligence. When you were training to become a doctor did you check that the people who taught you were suitably qualified and experienced to do so?

@cablemonster:
This thread is not about ME...
Or regarding my profession. It just so happens that I am a doctor.. Thats all.

In any case, when we are in training, there is no way for us to refuse our teachers/professors once the Teaching Hospital/Institute takes them in !

It is only from FEEDBACK that one knows about their efficiency (or the lack thereof).

All I am doing is just giving my feedback.

Please note that I had not actually attended his paid workshop, if you had gone through the post above carefully...
 

neil

Legendary member
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@Neil:

You are welcome to post YOUR EXPERIENCES, if any regarding Mr Sandy, if possible, with evidence.
Kindly help keep my thread on track.

If you are unable to contribute quality material to this thread, please open a thread of your own to say whatever you want to say.

In this thread, we are only enumerating facts that were witnessed by hundreds of Singaporeans during Mr Sandy's Free Seminars where he claimed to help people make lots of money with very little capital, using even the Solar Flares to predict the Euro's movements etc !

Solar Flares to predict currency movements eh:whistling

If you can't contribute facts, please at least have the decency to stay away from this thread.

I love it here -more lultz than you can shake a stick at:LOL:

I appreciate our good doctor who was able to provide evidence regarding the CNBC matter with the screenshots of his mobile.

Erm- did you read your original post :rolleyes:

If you have anything similar (good or bad) regarding Mr Sandy's workshops to contribute, then please do so.

You have already done so - bad review that is

Regardless of whether he is a doctor or not,
But truthfulness is important n'est pas ?
he was able to provide evidence, while at the same time being nice enough not to post harmful material like the email, online. The fact that you are affected by our good doctor's post and screenshots speaks volumes, that truth indeed hurts !

How is the truth that his course is of no use (as pointed out in your earlier posts at the beginning of your thread (post 1 et seq.) supposed to hurt me ?
I have never paid for a course and, thanks to membership of this site and others, have learnt to trade successfully, albeit it took several years.
However, if I had been an unsuccessful trader then I might have considered selling trading courses or trading signals
:cool:

Thank you.

Facts: (You wrote the indicated post shown in the below link)

http://www.trade2win.com/boards/t2w-announcements/180170-sandy-jadeja-trading-course-singapore.html

Extracts:
usually don't post reviews, but due to requests from several of my friends in Singapore, I had decided to give an honest account of my experiences with Mr Sandy Jadeja.
This is also on the behalf of several of his earlier students, who are my friends, who were disappointed with the course , but either were too busy or couldn't be bothered to post online about their experiences.

However, when questions (which are not exactly in his favour) are asked either during the seminars or during the workshop, he just cleverly evades them, either by saying that he would take questions at the end or that he would answer it shortly. He never does answer, however.

- He constantly keeps saying that he does many interviews with the CNBC and the Press and tries to make himself look very important. Some of us, in a bid to satisfy our curiosity, contacted the CNBC folks, and were told that all those presentations or interviews he had given were in the past. Way back in the past, and that most of them were not by invitation by CNBC or other Press but on request by Sandy, that they take his interview

He does not answer emails or phone calls. Especially, his Singapore mobile number that he gives during his seminars and classes here is never reachable. He always claims to be in an important Press meet and thus excuses himself.

Many of his trading strategies are taken from the book "High Probability Trading Strategies" by Robert Miner, and "Fibonacci Applications and Strategies for Traders" by Robert Fisher. There are a few strategies taken from forexfactory.com


There you are Techie - the bad review of the course was from your own keypad - and you hinted that his stratagies come from others such as Robert Miner (see above).

I've lost interest now:sleep:

We need more Mods;)
 

neil

Legendary member
5,167 749
@cablemonster:
This thread is not about ME...
Or regarding my profession. It just so happens that I am a doctor.. Thats all.

In any case, when we are in training, there is no way for us to refuse our teachers/professors once the Teaching Hospital/Institute takes them in !

It is only from FEEDBACK that one knows about their efficiency (or the lack thereof).

All I am doing is just giving my feedback.

Please note that I had not actually attended his paid workshop, if you had gone through the post above carefully...

Dr. P
My posts are NOT aimed at you !
But are comments on Sandy and Techies seemingly about turn in attitude to him. But I may be wrong since Techies post is difficult to decipher.
 

Techlord

Junior member
19 0
Techlord, do you know Dr P Joseph ?

@Trader333:
Yes, he is quite well known in Singapore and had seen him a few times when he was attending trading seminars on weekends.I don't know him very personally though.

@neil:
Many of his trading strategies are taken from the book "High Probability Trading Strategies" by Robert Miner, and "Fibonacci Applications and Strategies for Traders" by Robert Fisher. There are a few strategies taken from forexfactory.com

There you are Techie - the bad review of the course was from your own keypad - and you hinted that his stratagies come from others such as Robert Miner (see above).

GOOD strategies when implemented POORLY give bad results... That was why I had lost a lost of money following his strategies. Though the strategies were taken from good books, they were taught badly and at that time I did not know better.
 

NVP

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dude you are SO BUSTED ! :LOL:

priceless ......thanks for brightening a bad day T333

N (y)
 
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cablemonster

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Are you sure about that as he appears to be using the same computer you are using to log into T2W

lolol. dude you do know Singapore is a small country, infact it is so small they actually share one computer there. :LOL::LOL::LOL:
 

Techlord

Junior member
19 0
Our ISP uses a common proxy

Are you sure about that as he appears to be using the same computer you are using to log into T2W

@ Trader333:
Our ISP in Singapore (Singnet) uses a common proxy for all outgoing international connections, to filter content, including certain pornographic and other sites. This is well know in Singapore as anyone who tries to access certain forbidden sites will get a message from MDA (Media Development Authority, Singapore) which is in charge of regulating the content (including that from the internet), through the ISP's proxy.

We thus have problem accessing certain sites, which allow only 1 download per hour etc, as it appears to the international site as if a single person from Singapore is accessing the site, and thus blocks access even though multiple people access from different computers, as the IP address visible to the international server is a single one.

Of course, if the person in Singapore uses another provider (like M1, Starhub etc etc ) for their internet, then the IP addresses maybe different.
By and large, Singnet is a major provider (ISP) for our fiber broadband, and hence am not surprised if it appears to your server that the computer is a single one.

Thank you for the clarification in any case, Trader333 as I believe you are doing your job as a good admin.

You can confirm this very easy by contacting Singnet or by googling.
As I am an engineer, I know these points clearly.
 
 
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