Can T2W be saved?

[wackypete2]

If you are not a multi nic does that make you a u-nic?

 

[BeginnerJoe]

Of course I'm a multi nic, isnt everyone ?

Believe me, if there was a way to short t2w I'd definately take the bet

Well I am not multinick. I have never taken an interest in casino forums before. Then aging got the better of me.

What you are doing is shorting. But the fundamentals and the up trend are too strong. Perhaps you should trade with the trend.

 

[the hare]

Perhaps you should trade with the trend.

Believe me, I do. Once you understand what a trend is, and how to identify one, perhaps you can too

 

[barjon]

There's only really one way to do it. You have to get people to prove they can actually walk the walk. No commercial forum owner will do that because a) there's a limited number who can actually walk the walk, b) those who can are not really interested in wasting time proving it just to benefit a forum owner, c) the idiots who try and fail just in order to participate are an indication of just how difficult this game is, and that really isnt the message you want to send out if you make your living from IB kick backs.

It probably wouldnt even improve the quality of posts, I mean, what is there to say really that hasnt been said 1001 times before.

I suppose you could also make the argument that its the longer serving members who are most despondant, and guilty of lulz, rather than the fresh faced enthusiastic newbies.

hare

Interesting isn't it that those who can (and who knows?) constantly admonish the inexperienced not to accept claims of supposedly successful methods "just because they - the claimants - say so" whilst at the same time expecting their admonishments to be accepted "just because they - those who can (purportedly) - say so" and writing them off as idiots if they don't. Bit of a paradox there?

I suppose the answer is not to accept anyone's "say so" blindly.

jon

 

[pboyles]

hare

Interesting isn't it that those who can (and who knows?) constantly admonish the inexperienced not to accept claims of supposedly successful methods "just because they - the claimants - say so" whilst at the same time expecting their admonishments to be accepted "just because they - those who can (purportedly) - say so" and writing them off as idiots if they don't. Bit of a paradox there?

I suppose the answer is not to accept anyone's "say so" blindly.

jon

So the next time some pensioner asks whether she should use her life savings to buy shares off a cold caller we should say exactly what? We can't tell you because we can't prove it?

 

[the hare]

I suppose the answer is not to accept anyone's "say so" blindly.

A rational person wouldnt accept anything without proof.

The issue for you (or t2w) is that by demanding proof, you slash your own throats, its almost guarenteed commercial suicide.

However if you dont demand proof, you leave yourselves wide open to abuse

Its an interesting dilema. As long as the IB kick backs are rolling in who cares ?

 

[barjon]

So the next time some pensioner asks whether she should use her life savings to buy shares off a cold caller we should say exactly what? We can't tell you because we can't prove it?

no - you, for example, always make a fair fist of backing up what you say with some rational comments - many don't.

jon

 

[barjon]

A rational person wouldnt accept anything without proof.

The issue for you (or t2w) is that by demanding proof, you slash your own throats, its almost guarenteed commercial suicide.

However if you dont demand proof, you leave yourselves wide open to abuse

Its an interesting dilema. As long as the IB kick backs are rolling in who cares ?

funny to see so many "slating" posts still standing then. (And before you start, I acknowledge that many of the extreme ones have disappeared into the void). Must have suicidal tendencies .

 

[Splitlink]

Absolute nonsense. Just look what just happened on the CMC thread !

The chief executive of one of the worlds largest spread betting companies closes his thread precisely due to the decline in standards at t2w, and the fact that t2w cannot exercise any degree of control over its members.

Some of truth seekers posts had merit, and others where pure lulz. The problem is there's noone here who can differentiate.

Today another member who has contributed more of value than almost anyone at t2w announces that he's leaving (jimmy lulz). The response from a bunch of completely ignorant people who cant differentiate between fact and fiction is to rejoice that he's leaving, and to tell him not to return.

Its the environment thats equally at fault here. Provide the right environment and people will contribute. You simply cannot reconsile the commercial objectives of this forum, with the requirement for quality posts. You can have one, but not the other.

Anda que te coja un burro!

Cago en tu leche.

El burro sabe mas que tu.

Métetelo por el culo. No me jodas!

Cuanto por las nalgas?

Chupas mis huevos, cabron.

And finally, most important of all:

Que te folle un pez.

Adios!

Great contributions Hare!? What a person of value this one is!

 

[the hare]

Great contributions Hare!? What a person of value this one is!

Do you actually ever read anything before commenting ?

I've already pointed out to barjon that forming conclusions based on one post alone isnt particularly sensible.

Jimmy Lulz has posted info of imense value.

 

[wackypete2]

eh, si?
err, no?

 

[wackypete2]

Do you actually ever read anything before commenting ?

I've already pointed out to barjon that forming conclusions based on one post alone isnt particularly sensible.

Jimmy Lulz has posted info of imense value.

Why is it you always seem to back the idiots that get themselves banned?

Peter

 

[Splitlink]

A little bit softer... I'm sure the mods have plenty to do and as volunteers I respect what they do and it can be difficult at times. But, there has to be a better way to keep people out or keep banning them quickly.

Peter

Of course. Has anyone asked The Motley Fool? I use them and they seem to keep good discipline there, with all the boards and different subjects that they have. They have their "types", of course, but no one writes the kind of filth that is used here.

 

[the hare]

Why is it you always seem to back the idiots that get themselves banned?

Peter

Because generally they are the only people with anything remotely useful to contribute.

its not rocket science surely ?

 

[Splitlink]

Why is it you always seem to back the idiots that get themselves banned?

Peter

Birds of a feather flock together.

 

[timsk]

1.Do you actually ever read anything before commenting ?

2. I've already pointed out to barjon that forming conclusions based on one post alone isnt particularly sensible.

3. Jimmy Lulz has posted info of imense value.

1. I've read most of Split's posts over the years and - as he will tell you - I don't always agree with his comments. We've even fallen out - rather acrimoniously at one point. That said, I believe he does read posts carefully before commenting and, without doubt (to my mind) adds a huge amount of value to the site in a way that Jimmy lulz never did. It's all about the intent of the individual member. In Split's case - his intent is to learn from other members and to reciprocate where he can. It's based on mutual respect and sharing the core values of the site. Jimmy Lulz was not interested in these things. His intent was destructive, based on unconstructive criticism which frequently degenerated into abuse, a complete lack of respect for other members and trolling to further inflate his already massively enlarged ego.

The mistake so many members make - is to focus on who is a good / profitable trader (or not). This is not the point. Paz' / Jimmy' etc. may be a better and more profitable trader than say, barjon, me or Split' - but that's not the point of the site. Of course T2W wants as many experienced and profitable traders to join and contribute as possible. However, no matter how brilliant they may be, it doesn't want them if their sole intent is to run riot and be needlessly offensive to others for their own pathetic amusement.

2. A fair point, but the post that Split' and barjon quoted of Jimmy's is a fairly good average example of his contributions. Therefore, in my book, their criticism is valid and your defense of him is wafer thin.

3. Well, if you include his former incarnations - most notably Pazienza - then yes - I'd agree with you. However, why do these members have to have various multi-nics in the 1st place? To me, it represents someone of unsound mind - a Jekyll & Hyde personality - who is obsessed with their own ego and doesn't really care about the forum or it's members. As you obviously have insight into this rather curious phenomena - so beloved of a vociferous minority of members - perhaps you'd care to comment and enlighten those of us who don't begin to understand the need for it?

Make no mistake, T2W is better off without Jimmy' and the Mod's were quite right to get shot of him. My guess is that he'll be back - his ego simply won't allow him to stay away.
Tim.

 

[petedeluiz]

t2w is uk-based site as some said and we all know about English ego

No offense taken, I'm just stating what I see. Hopefully t2w offers tool for thread starter so that they could ban a certain members to keep the thread clean, because some are there just for trolling.

 

[the hare]

Hopefully t2w offers tool for thread starter so that they could ban a certain members to keep the thread clean, because some are there just for trolling.

Just what t2w needs, a facility where vendors can delete any challanging posts in their threads.

I'm sure its coming soon

 

[BeginnerJoe]

Jimmy Lulz has posted info of imense value.

He never showed me a statement once. This is why I hope he comes back. Then there will still be a chance he will show me one. But going by his wild psychological swings, that is a reflection of his trading strategy, I reckon it wouldn't be a pretty statement.

 

[scose-no-doubt]

Once again I have to completely disagree with Timsk.

1 While I respect Split and believe that he is well within his rights to complain about any posts that go against the site's guidelines, I think he needs to understand that while he may not agree with it, it's all just simply generation x/y humour.

While some people believe that they/the site would benefit from less "filth" and more hunky-dory, honey and roses posts flowers other believe that the site would benefit from less drivel and more real actual trading related posts - whatever the cost.

This is issue is one of the major wedges between members and staff I alluded to earlier.

2 Okay, Jimmy's (et al) humour if often very crass and not to everyone's taste but please tell me how his behaviour is any more destructive or disruptive than the likes of truthseeker or begginer joe. Tell you what, wouldn't it be a good idea to ask PC of CMC what he thinks before you answer this?

3

Well, if you include his former incarnations - most notably Pazienza - then yes - I'd agree with you.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then why is it that those of us who care more about posts of "immense value"- often referred to as quality content - and rip-off vendors/cold callers/"hedge funds"/t2w staff (allegedly)/spread bet companies completely sodomising people out of their hard earned money than we do about the flaming of any of the aforementioned, or choice language, are overlooked? Not part of the T2W "community"? Does this opinion not count? Nope, shunned! Idiots! Children! Once again, visions of a few comrades* drinking wine together and the phrase some are more equal than others springs to mind.

*Conflicts of interest in among t2w staff much?

To me, it represents someone of unsound mind - a Jekyll & Hyde personality - who is obsessed with their own ego and doesn't really care about the forum or it's members. As you obviously have insight into this rather curious phenomena - so beloved of a vociferous minority of members - perhaps you'd care to comment and enlighten those of us who don't begin to understand the need for it?

Hahaha why don't you direct these questions to your cahootsy vendor types instead eh? I'm sure there are more direct lines of communication.

Make no mistake, T2W is better off without Jimmy

Really? Based on what metric? Decency or trading related content? Excuse me for assuming this was meant to be a trading site and not a offshoot of the samaritans.

Until T2W positions itself in a way which seems more in tune with protecting members/newbies and promoting quality content things will continue in the same vein. This site is turning into a huge advert and nothing more.