My God - you have spent some dosh hoping to buy the holy grail - give up now and save your money. Most useful advice is free and on these boards under "Search" etc.
I list below your quest for the grail.
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/search.php?searchid=1302055
Dr Issy Bacher
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Dr Issy Bacher
Has any heard or got any information about Dr Issy Bacher and his trading method. Says he's got 2000 customers world wide but mainly from S. Africa. He's selling through Agora Lifestyle and this is...
The Pentatrade Profit System
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Has anybody since this thread started yet tried...
Has anybody since this thread started yet tried the Pentatrade system as I've had mail myself from Streetwise and it would be beneficial if someone has already given this a go!
New Trading System
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Just received from Fleet Street publications a new system by Andy X trading on the Forex market using his "Insider Signal" to trade. Cost nearly £2000 with 30days guarantee. He's 25 and now retired. Has anybody any comments regarding this system?
Trading the Easy Way - Ian Williams
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I've recently purchased the manual. As I'm a...
I've recently purchased the manual. As I'm a beginner there is a lot of studying to be done, but so far I'm impressed with the course. Has anybody else any comments regarding the manual.
I just tried to click your link for the grail but it does not come up with anything. Could anyone help me locate this please? I am looking at signing up for zone trading with Hugo Lawrence as i see a trading strategy is the best way for me to get into trading. It seems there is a lot of free info about but it is also very difficult to locate.
Before i sign up it would be nice to know if there is a good amount of info all in one place.
Thanks for any help
Carl
Hoggums
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<sigh> Another fool and his money
I should make a text file that I can cut and paste into a reply saying something like..
DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT ANY SYSTEM YOU CAN BUY ACTUALLY WORKS
Ask yourself this question...
If you invented a system that could make you $$$ everyday - would you trade it or sell it?
I should make a text file that I can cut and paste into a reply saying something like..
DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT ANY SYSTEM YOU CAN BUY ACTUALLY WORKS
Ask yourself this question...
If you invented a system that could make you $$$ everyday - would you trade it or sell it?
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So right. If people don't have the nouse to see through the illogicality of such claims they are not ready for trading & perhaps never will be. Rather reminds me of the Lottery mentality where they all patiently queue up every week to hand over their hard-earned dosh when they could just go outside and empty it down the nearest drain - much quicker & less effort.
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I don't necessarily agree with you here Hoggums. This is always the standard argument that people put forward - if you could make X amount then why sell your system? Why not trade it? The problem is that KNOWING how to make X amount and MAKING X amount are too completely different things.
I know traders that have a profitable system but lack the emotional self-control to pull the trigger, or they pull the trigger and then can't follow the rules in managing the trade, or they don't get a signal for a few days and end up taking a trade that their system doesn't call etc etc
The list is endless.
For these kind of people the best thing to do is find a profitable system and simply sell it.
I am not by any means suggesting that this is the case all of the time but I think it is wrong to immediately presume that because someone is selling a system that it means it doesn't work.
arabianights
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Except with the lottery you're paying a tiny amount of money to think you could be a millionaire next week... it can be a perfectly logical thing to play.
0007
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T-D - I think you have a point and I do know of people selling systems that work. But they are in a different class to the "you don't have to know anything - just click here" merchants, and go to pains to point this out. It's just that some of these systems are blatant money-making for the sellers and prey on the foolish, ignorant and stupid.
So maybe it's not completely black & white.
Gumping
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*sigh* Why don't people invest in Premium Bonds instead? That way they get their cash back and aren't effectively paying extra taxes.
0007
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Odds of winning UK Lottery Jackpot = 1 in 14 million for 1 line.
Horses for courses?
So rather than just send a pretty lame email slating me and many other people who are trying to find a 'way in' why not actually write something useful. I did say i was thinking about it as i couldn't locate all the information in one place and figured this was the most time efficient way of understanding the markets i could think of.
Anyway how could you credit or discredit this course? Have you any idea of the content?
From looking through this site, i think not. Therefore if you have any helpful comments/ideas please share them, otherwise butt out.
Anyway, just think. You have a great system and it makes you a nice income. You then get a bit older and think about putting together what you have learnt.
A traders life from what i can see is a pretty solitude life so maybe teaching people about your system could be a way of getting back out there and socialising? Whilst also bringing you in a nice risk free income.
I don't know, that's how i could see it working.
I would be happy to hear from anyone with some real advice
Regards
Carl
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Because you'll get a better return investing the money in a cash isa and still buying lottery tickets
P.S. Premium bonds are paying taxes as well in the sense the government is borrowing money from you at sillily low rates.
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I should be careful what coments I make here!
A lot of posters on this forum are pretty ant-course,anti-guru ,or mentor.
well they have good reason to.
You will probably find that a lot of Posters on this section of the forum have probably finished trading by the time you have woken up or are in longer term positions so they tend to read and post in this section while whiling the time away.
A lot of people who make claims are invited to come and make live calls to prove their systems
In my history of T2W which is quite long, I have never seen one who has accepted the challenge.
So when people knock courses like the one you mention without trying the course really they don't need to they know they are rubbish.
Another reason they post on here is maybe to save you from what they have been through.
And another reason being there is far superior material available here for free than any paid course.
read trader_dante's thread or captain currency's "3 ducks system"
Chances are you will still be trading
go on the course you mentioned and more than likely we won't be seeing much of you.
Whatever you do I wish you good luck.
Thanks for your advice, i will check it out.
Any other threads that could be of good value to me? I am interested in medium to long term trading (hold a position for one to possibly three days). I tried intraday trading but it was too emotionally involving. i also tried end of day trading but felt it did not present enough trading oppurtunities.
Again, thanks for the advice.
Regards
Carl
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Because you'll get a better return investing the money in a cash isa and still buying lottery tickets
P.S. Premium bonds are paying taxes as well in the sense the government is borrowing money from you at sillily low rates.
My PB experience over the last 2 years is that I've done as well as a cash ISA (6% net), have a much better than lottery chance of a decent size win, and I've still got the money. Lottery's ok if you are that lucky 1 in 14 million person. I'm afraid my mathematical leanings deter me. Lottery has raised lots of dosh for some good causes though.
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Carl,
One of The major problem problems with trading is developing patience.
If you had studied the 3 Ducks system posted by Capitan Currency combined it with candlestick charts you would have seen a excellent opportunity that developed on the 19th of may at 8p.m but waiting for that position to come about took 3 days.One should still be in that position locking in a 100/150 point profit according to your t/p setup.
One of the best simple to understand methods around. brilliant! and free!
Trading =long hours of boredom
Solution= read the posts on T2W, some educational some humorous some ridiculous
I hope you will be posting with us long into the future
Good Luck
One of The major problem problems with trading is developing patience.
If you had studied the 3 Ducks system posted by Capitan Currency combined it with candlestick charts you would have seen a excellent opportunity that developed on the 19th of may at 8p.m but waiting for that position to come about took 3 days.One should still be in that position locking in a 100/150 point profit according to your t/p setup.
One of the best simple to understand methods around. brilliant! and free!
Trading =long hours of boredom
Solution= read the posts on T2W, some educational some humorous some ridiculous
I hope you will be posting with us long into the future
Good Luck
Have to agree arabianights. What we should remember is the lottery allows ordinary people to dream. A pound buys nothing these days, not even a bag of chips, yet it could and does change peoples lives forever.
If we always look at every pound spent as an investment which must produce a profit or we will not part with it, how boring will we become.
I have a customer who is also a friend who is extremely wealthy. He has a garage full of the most exotic cars you could imagine worth over five million pounds, a home which is also worth over five million, yet I once saw a lottery ticket on his kitchen table, he must have bought it, he lives alone, I had to smile.
Allow people their dreams it costs little or nothing.
Thanks for some very good information. I have been reading through Trader_dante's sytem with great interest.
Friendly advice - for what it's worth.
Cjonez
I'm an old fella who's been retired for quite some time now. For many years, just as you are now doing, I've sought trading knowledge, advice and practical experience. For me the journey has involved falling for scams, buying books and 'systems', attending courses and trading WITH CARE. From one perspective you might say that I have been successful because I still retain over 97% of my original modest pot! However, although I am still in the game I have yet to break through the 'glass ceiling'. I have trouble with my nerves! I hope the following brief summary of what I have learned on this journey will be of some help and save you some time and money:-
All knowledge gained by whatever means is of value. Only ever buy a system from trusted publishers who give cast iron refund guarantees. (If you email me I can give you a couple with whom I have had several years experience). If you really want to test a trading method, no matter how you come by it, put your money where your mouth is BUT ONLY USE VERY SMALL STAKES to start with. There are at least two very good reasons why you MUST do this, (i) it demonstrates the actual effect your chosen trading platform has on your trading fund, of 'slippage', and (ii) it is the only way to learn about your psychological response to the three key factors in trading i.e. fear, greed and patience. No system, no matter how good it appears on paper, despite the authors statistics, will deliver the goods if it doesn't suit YOUR true personality. Believe me, I've been there along with many other traders. In fact my current balance tells me that I still haven't quite found my true trading niche yet! So, plough your own furrow with all due care, and you WILL survive and perhaps also prosper. IMHO of course.
Good luck to you.
Cjonez
I'm an old fella who's been retired for quite some time now. For many years, just as you are now doing, I've sought trading knowledge, advice and practical experience. For me the journey has involved falling for scams, buying books and 'systems', attending courses and trading WITH CARE. From one perspective you might say that I have been successful because I still retain over 97% of my original modest pot! However, although I am still in the game I have yet to break through the 'glass ceiling'. I have trouble with my nerves! I hope the following brief summary of what I have learned on this journey will be of some help and save you some time and money:-
All knowledge gained by whatever means is of value. Only ever buy a system from trusted publishers who give cast iron refund guarantees. (If you email me I can give you a couple with whom I have had several years experience). If you really want to test a trading method, no matter how you come by it, put your money where your mouth is BUT ONLY USE VERY SMALL STAKES to start with. There are at least two very good reasons why you MUST do this, (i) it demonstrates the actual effect your chosen trading platform has on your trading fund, of 'slippage', and (ii) it is the only way to learn about your psychological response to the three key factors in trading i.e. fear, greed and patience. No system, no matter how good it appears on paper, despite the authors statistics, will deliver the goods if it doesn't suit YOUR true personality. Believe me, I've been there along with many other traders. In fact my current balance tells me that I still haven't quite found my true trading niche yet! So, plough your own furrow with all due care, and you WILL survive and perhaps also prosper. IMHO of course.
Good luck to you.
