Since your picks in THE GAME, I have only seen a couple of alerts and missed trading on them, sounds like I saved myself some grief. Got on the current CAC alert though. What have the results been like lately?
Since your picks in THE GAME, I have only seen a couple of alerts and missed trading on them, sounds like I saved myself some grief. Got on the current CAC alert though. What have the results been like lately?
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3 losing alerts in the last 24 hours! Including the CAC you were on tonight.
I'm confused why there are more wrong alerts suddenly, does the Greek market mess have something to do with it? PGI don't seem to fair well when there is market turmoil regardless of their spin.
Regardless, I am getting really annoyed now, its bull ****. I have actually made more money just recently by accidentally betting 10minutes late on 1st, 2nd hours. Often the alerts are only 10 minutes wrong from predicting market spikes, 10 minutes is all it takes to loss $1000 though, not cool.
What really rubs it in for me is the amount of time I spent on the phone with a PGI employee who's name I won't mention here. The man basically gave me his word (without a guarantee of course) that this system would make me money straight away. He told me a story about how he had a family and couldn't possibly sell a system that didn't work.
I have lost $7000 (inc. the trading alert system from PGI) + the monthly debits. I'm at a loss what to do now... What can you do besides give up. In some ways I suppose its my own fault for being greedy and thinking that there was easy money to be made, but I'm disgusted how some companies are allowed to run in Australia i.e. gambling and how people pry on others weaknesses and addictions to make personal gain...sad.
Regardless, I am getting really annoyed now, its bull ****. I have actually made more money just recently by accidentally betting 10minutes late on 1st, 2nd hours. Often the alerts are only 10 minutes wrong from predicting market spikes, 10 minutes is all it takes to loss $1000 though, not cool.
What really rubs it in for me is the amount of time I spent on the phone with a PGI employee who's name I won't mention here. The man basically gave me his word (without a guarantee of course) that this system would make me money straight away. He told me a story about how he had a family and couldn't possibly sell a system that didn't work.
I have lost $7000 (inc. the trading alert system from PGI) + the monthly debits. I'm at a loss what to do now... What can you do besides give up. In some ways I suppose its my own fault for being greedy and thinking that there was easy money to be made, but I'm disgusted how some companies are allowed to run in Australia i.e. gambling and how people pry on others weaknesses and addictions to make personal gain...sad.
Too many wrong alerts toooo close together. This is really getting to me. Because I am open minded I went to a Safety in the Market Seminar last night which was informative. Anyone in this thread seen their presentation ? They basically offer a 6 months money back guarantee if the program is not for you. There are certain requirements but they say this on their site. Any feedback ?
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Never heard of it.
I think the reason that there are more losing alerts is the basic principle on the alerts. Most of them come when there has been 3 movements in the same direction. Research I had done showed that 80% of indexes would only go 3 straight hourly movements in the same direction. After that the amount going each further hour in the same direction became very small. By the 6th hour 96-98% had turned. That seems to be what is targeted on the alerts. The difference now is more days are having longer runs of same way movement however the alerts are still sent out on the same principle.
There is often alerts that win only because they went hugely against the alert direction in the first 2 hours then slightly corrected in the 3rd...Would you call that a good alert. Sure it won but the finishing 3rd hour figure sometimes is well above what the alert said it would go down from or vice versa. Seems more like law of averages to me.
Who was it that put on the Safety in the Market Seminar ?
Kurt Bolinder
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PGI haven't updated their results since 11May on the site. The Blog is also up to the same date. There were 3 losing alerts in the days after that. They had been good keeping it up to date before then.
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Hi Argento,
Sorry mate I've been away again. I will look into this and get back to you asap.
Regards, Peter
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Peter can you make sure the results are being updated again as well
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Todays alert on the German to go up was how a typical alert should pan out with there being a marked strong upward trend within the hour. Can't remember the last time there was such a distinct move in favour of an alert. Do remember quite a few that went the other way. It should be the normal rather than the exception.
yes that German trade last night was a beaut !! That is just what we need each trade. Makes me sleep better at night. Interesting that there is only one trade per night though when before there usually were 2.
Before May 08, there was sometimes 3or4 alerts a night.
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Actually there were often more than 2, sometimes up to 4 at the same time. Great when they win, not so when they lose.
Will be good when there are average of 2 alerts a night. I don't mind handling that amount of alerts a night. Would not be keen to do more than than right now with the market being volatile.
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Well the number of alerts doesn't really matter. It is the number of losses that make the difference. Two alerts tonight and one loss. For each loss you need around 11 winning alerts to make the money back from the loss.
So by PGI accounts this month now having its 5th loss means it needs 55 winning alerts to break even. There has been 14 so the net is down for the month aproximately -$6500. Add that aproximately -$5500 from April with 6 full losses and 2 losses after the 2nd bet (where they advised not to continue).
It hasn't been a good couple of months.
Well the number of alerts doesn't really matter. It is the number of losses that make the difference. Two alerts tonight and one loss. For each loss you need around 11 winning alerts to make the money back from the loss.
So by PGI accounts this month now having its 5th loss means it needs 55 winning alerts to break even. There has been 14 so the net is down for the month aproximately -$6500. Add that aproximately -$5500 from April with 6 full losses and 2 losses after the 2nd bet (where they advised not to continue).
It hasn't been a good couple of months.
True, ,true.
Fortunately I am not on that package where I get the Italian, Belgian or Dutch market; only French, German, UK, and Swedish market.
So my losses are not that bad this month but not great. I have come to realize thru paid and knowledge that there are some alerts that I will not trade due to their past history.
I just leave them regardless of what their outcome will be. It is not worth it in the long run. Someone else mentioned that they will not trade the UK, period and I tend to go that way too. That way there is no hurt to your account. You won't win but at least you won't lose. And then you can trade more on markets that does have a better record of winning ie Irish and Swedish to compensate for the alerts you don't trade.
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great daily reports
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on gold http://betonmarketsdailyreport.wordpress.com/2010/05/31/finally-time-to-buy-gold/
**Old Jul 5, 2005, 2:51am #26 pal11. Bom = no problem I've withdrawn over 40,000 in the last 3 months through bank wire and e-bullion. I've also talked directly with the CEO, Jean-Yves Sireau.
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/fix...nmarkets-casino-valid-trading-platform-4.html
1.)"This website is marketed in the UK and Isle of Man by
Regent Markets (IOM) Ltd.,
First Floor, Millennium House, Victoria Road, Douglas, IM2 4RW, Isle of Man, British Isles, licenced and regulated by the Gambling Supervision Commission in the Isle of Man, British Isles,
current online gambling licence issued on 31 August 2007,
and in the rest of the EU by Regent Markets (Malta) Ltd., Mompalao Building, Suite 2, Tower Road, Msida MSD1825, Malta, licenced and regulated by the Lotteries and Gaming Authority in Malta, licence no LGA/CL2/118/2000."
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* by Mike Wright - About the Author: Address: Regent Markets (IOM) Limited 3rd Floor, 1-5 Church Street, Douglas, Isle of Man IM1 2AG, British Isles. Phone: 448003762737 Email: [email protected] URL: http://www.betonmarkets.com & http://www.betonmarkets.co.uk
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lovenlust72
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Re: does it make sense to come into biz with this corp ?
Um I suspect pssonice is a spam post given it took me ages to even see that you actually asked a question.
On the chace you are legit and if you mean is it worth joining PGI, well no one here has made money with them. So on that thought one would say not until there is a period of sustained profit. If you mean joining BetonMarkets then yes it is possible to make money there and the returns are back at good levels. I haven't found another betting platform that is a good alternative. What you use to base your bets on though is up to you. I think there are more opportunities available on it now with the ability to withdraw early.
Um I suspect pssonice is a spam post given it took me ages to even see that you actually asked a question.
On the chace you are legit and if you mean is it worth joining PGI, well no one here has made money with them. So on that thought one would say not until there is a period of sustained profit. If you mean joining BetonMarkets then yes it is possible to make money there and the returns are back at good levels. I haven't found another betting platform that is a good alternative. What you use to base your bets on though is up to you. I think there are more opportunities available on it now with the ability to withdraw early.