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Steve

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From 0007..

I think it comes down to common sense and decency and the great majority of people understand this and can practise it if they wish to.
This pretty much sums it up for me - if they wish to.
 
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new_trader

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Firstly, let’s be clear about one thing, nobody will be banned for making criticisms about the staff.
Steve,

Do you actually attend any staff meetings at T2W? Perhaps you didn't get the memo...If it doesn't get me banned, I can post the EXACT reason I received a 5 day ban not long ago, it's in my 'Latest Infractions Received' list.

BTW...STOP ignoring me..:mad:
 

Steve

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Steve,

Do you actually attend any staff meetings at T2W? Perhaps you didn't get the memo...If it doesn't get me banned, I can post the EXACT reason I received a 5 day ban not long ago, it's in my 'Latest Infractions Received' list.

BTW...STOP ignoring me..:mad:
Ignoring you when?
 
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the hare

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Steve,

Do you actually attend any staff meetings at T2W? Perhaps you didn't get the memo...If it doesn't get me banned, I can post the EXACT reason I received a 5 day ban not long ago, it's in my 'Latest Infractions Received' list.

BTW...STOP ignoring me..:mad:
It might be quite useful for Steve to actually read some of the PMs, comments made via the recommendations feature, and reasons provided by his staff for bans.

Based on my experience, his interpretation of reality is polorized 180 degrees from reality.

People are banned and criticized simply for holding opinions that differ from the content management team. Steve would benefit from actually reading many of the posts made by Tim, who has continually defended the position regarding historical partners, various cover ups, and actually claims the site is a "shining beacon" amongst forums. He also appears to be in total denial regarding the decline in traffic, and post quality.

It's a ridiculous situation for the CEO to publicly post his interpretation of the current situation, only to be contradicted by the content management team. Who are we supposed to believe ?

Of course time will tell, but in the short term you do yourselves no favors. T2w staff need to be singing from the same hymn sheet.
 
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new_trader

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It might be quite useful for Steve to actually read some of the PMs, comments made via the recommendations feature, and reasons provided by his staff for bans.

Based on my experience, his interpretation of reality is polorized 180 degrees from reality.

People are banned and criticized simply for holding opinions that differ from the content management team. Steve would benefit from actually reading many of the posts made by Tim, who has continually defended the position regarding historical partners, various cover ups, and actually claims the site is a "shining beacon" amongst forums. He also appears to be in total denial regarding the decline in traffic, and post quality.

It's a ridiculous situation for the CEO to publicly post his interpretation of the current situation, only to be contradicted by the content management team. Who are we supposed to believe ?

Of course time will tell, but in the short term you do yourselves no favors. T2w staff need to be singing from the same hymn sheet.
I have to agree with you 100%.

What Steve says and what I've experienced and read from other staff members are 180°out of phase.

In regard to denial regarding the decline in traffic, and post quality:-

The belief that this site can be revived by changing the terms and conditions and/or improving the way staff and users interact is as misguided as the CEO of BT believing he can revive the use of public payphones by doing the same thing.

The writing has been on the wall for sites like this for a long time. In the early days there wasn’t much competition for online communities and forums like this so they were a hive of activity, but in the last 5 - 6 years social networking has grown along with many other dependable and informative online resources.

I have been a member of a few forums over the years specialising in different subjects of interest and every single one of them became noticeably quieter around the time facebook became mainstream...add twitter and youtube to that and T2W becomes an ever decreasing niche community. He is flogging a dead horse IMO.
 
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the hare

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Perhaps Steve could begin by reading the comment made by Tim in response to the above post. It's a perfect example of what I'm talking sbout.

Steve admits there's been historical problems with partner offers. Tim's response to me pointing this out "complete an utter bollox"

Steve admits that the handling of those issues could have been better. Tim's response to me pointing this out "complete and utter bollox"

Steve admits that traffic has reduced, and valuable posters have been lost. Tim's response, "complete and utter bollox"

A complete denial that Steve's post on page one of this thread exist !

On top of that, he claims to have reported my post. Who will deal with that complaint ? Possibly the same member of staff responsible for my last 3 bans, who just happens to be Tim's colleague responsible for provision of content !

You really couldn't make this stuff up. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. You can't allow staff to continually post their rosé tinted perception of reality, and then undermine them with a post apologizing for these problems. You can't allow members of staff to ban whoever disagrees with their perception of reality, and then post that members don't get banned for holding an opinion or criticizing staff. Well you can, and its always been done that way, but that's the reason you are in th mess you are currently in, and each ridiculous post, contradicted by Tim and Paul creates increasingly more damage.

You've banned the bramble, and no doubt my time at t2w will be short lived, but until you grate bull by the horns, and start replacing the staff who are without a shadow of a doubt at the heart of the sites current malaise, things are not going to get much better.
 
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Hakuna Matata

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rite my 2 pence using real life examples of what i reckon is wrong at tradetowindotcom

everyone is like "where has all the good content gone" and "where have all teh good contributors gone" and prolly the real answer is that their still theyre but the problem is like with a biscuit cutter shape problem...

...imagine there is a big rolled out flat bit of biscuit mix from all the people at trade to win, you could have lots of nice biscuit shapes if everyone was left to get on with it, but problem is a you can't get a gingerbread man shape with a christmas tree cutter!

T2W is a largely self-policing community on the whole (or was when I was 'ere), and should be left that way. People that try to sell signal services by calling out false trades are caught out. People that obviously talk sh!t (HOWARD COHODAS ANYONE?!) are caught out. People that post lulz which has gone too far get the cold shoulder (like one time I posted a pic of a fanny, and robster was like "dude, tone it down, my kids can see this laptop!" and I felt a bit guilty and didn't post anymore fannies). People that are pissing in the wind but not causing any disruption are left alone to write their journal or search for latest indicator or whatever.

that's the way it should be. if it could be like that then tradetowindotcom would prolly get better i reckon

problem is you have Christmas tree cookie cutters like timsk and barjon and trader333 who throw the whole thing off balance. It's like saying "why have we only got christmas trees, where did all the gingerbread men go?" when really there are just as many gingerbread men as before (well nearly) but anything not christmas tree shaped gets defenestrated.

teh system in place designed to amplify "good content" actually silences it. It's totally fUBAR. It doesn't help that it also gets personal, and there is a "them" and "us" mentality which BOTH sides are guilty of.


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wackypete2

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How about people who are permanently(??) banned then are welcomed back with open arms under a new nic?

Peter
 
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new_trader

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no doubt my time at t2w will be short lived
I doubt anyone will get banned (personal attacks aside) for what they say in this thread...it would just reinforce and epitomize everything being said about T2W right now...still, they are capable :LOL:
 

Steve

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Hello again

I'm just wrapping a few things up before I take a short break so i'll keep this brief.

I am very grateful for the concerns expressed here about me and the team pulling in different directions, such interest in the site is most encouraging. So please, let me assure all of you that we are all 100% behind the new vision for T2W.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to go through events that have happened in the past as there is nothing to be served by this other than to satisfy one or two people. My time is far better spent making this place what I want it to be and I look forward to working with you all to make this a reality.

What is certain is that no amount of wordplay will derail us, nothing will get in the way of forward movement based on passion and enthusiasm so there's really no point in trying.

Anyone who is still short T2W may want to start covering their positions.

I'll post more details when I get back.

Best wishes

Steve
 

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