wannagetstacked
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This thread is shaping up to be a one sided attack on Socrates,
I'm sure I can't be the only one that thoroughly enjoys reading his posts?
Nathan
I'm sure I can't be the only one that thoroughly enjoys reading his posts?
Nathan
Ah yes the inevitable cry of NEWBIE with it's implied insult that because someone is recently come to the community anything they have to say is of no value. I've always seen it as the internet equivalent of the childhood playground insult "you're a stupid head!". The last refuge of someone who has nothing intelligent, reasoned, rational or even interesting to say in reply.SOCRATES said:
I may be new to trading but I can still recognise a condescending, rude and arrogantly egotistical persona when I see it. Whether that is actually you or simply the internet persona you get some form of enjoyment from acting out I don't know. I can't help but think by your reply that it is the former and the self reflection I suggested touched a nerve. Don't worry though, if you turn your reputed self awareness in trading to every aspect of your personality then I'm sure you could change that persona. Of course that is if you can pin what it is you need to do.
Finally, If you truyly have better things to do than prolong arguments with "newbies", why have you replied to this thread a number of times more after the above quoted post?
Cheerio,
PKFFW
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You will find one day, you will actually discover it is a futile excercise to try to impose your frame of reference on all of this. Your frame of reference is an unsuitable one. I assure you this is not a demeaning comment. It is a constructive comment, but you yourself have to experientially undergo the odessey. When you have done so, and completed it, you will see how it is that your frame of reference will change from an unsuitable one to a suitable one. I will be very pleased for you, even though we are strangers, when you are able to achieve that.PKFFW said:
For one who seems to so often berate others for a lack of comprehension, your comprehension skills could use some work.SOCRATES said:
You continuously reference this needed experience and knowledge that I will only attain sometime in the future. Since you know only that I am new to trading and not how much experience I have in life, I can only assume you are referring to trading. Otherwise you are foolishly making assumptions about other aspects of my life that you have no knowledge of. Further to that you seem to think I will magically agree with your viewpoint once I have undergone the requisite "odessy". I stated in my first post I am new to trading and am not debating that topic with you. I am merely pointing out to you how rude and obnoxious you seem and suggesting you reflect on why it may be that you seem this way. Mayhap it is merely a misunderstanding from a person new to your unique brand of online persona. Perhaps it is more. For one who seems so intent on telling others they need more reflection, self awareness and experiential knowledge I would have thought you would enthusiastically accept the suggestion that you also reflect. What is good for the goose is good for the gander afterall!
You see, my frame of reference says there is always a polite way to state anything. The opposite is also true, there is an offensive way to state the same thing. Regardless of your position Soc, time and again you choose to state that position in an offensive way. Why you choose to do that is your own business. I simply choose to point this out in case you are unaware of what you are doing. I would rather believe in the goodness of all and hence hesitate to assume you know you are being rude and offensive but choose to be so anyway. If this is truly the case then by all means tell me and I will drop the subject. If, however, you are not intentionally being rude and offensive then perhaps reflection on your part is warranted, which is all I have been suggesting in this thread.
No grand odessy will ever change my viewpoint on that. My viewpoint has served me very well through out life. If I need to develop a rude, offensive and arrogant persona online to be successful as a trader then perhaps I am endeavouring to enter the wrong areana. However, I do not think this is the case.
Chers,
PKFFW
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wannagetstacked said:
I thoroughly enjoy reading his posts, it provides me with a continual stream of possibly the greatest comedy the internet can offer. Who could ever forget the all time classics "book burning sketch" or "my trading room" (complete with red light and green baize) or "D I Y multi monitor hanging bracket"
Happy days indeed
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wannagetstacked said:
I am sure that there are others that enjoy reading his posts. If he stopped having a go at new posters, inexperienced traders and anyone who doesn't agree with him, he would probably not have to waste so much time posting rubbish. These endless spats ruin threads and make this site look like a joke. I am as guilty as anyone for posting junk, so I am not having a go. The response to some of his posts are over the top but if he didn't use "polite rudeness" and stuck to what he knows, instead of making things up, he might not have to post 40 times a day. It is probably too late for this situation to change now but I do hope I am proved wrong again
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Bigbusiness said:I am sure that there are others that enjoy reading his posts. If he stopped having a go at new posters, inexperienced traders and anyone who doesn't agree with him, he would probably not have to waste so much time posting rubbish. These endless spats ruin threads and make this site look like a joke. I am as guilty as anyone for posting junk, so I am not having a go. The response to some of his posts are over the top but if he didn't use "polite rudeness" and stuck to what he knows, instead of making things up, he might not have to post 40 times a day. It is probably too late for this situation to change now but I do hope I am proved wrong again
I am amazed how seriously the good people here are taking this 'Socrates' fella. How would you react towards a person who behaves and talks like he does in 'real life'? Why, you would laugh at him and say he 'is quite a character' and, at best, ignore him down at Tesco's. The thing about the internet is people are taken seriously even when they are being silly and rather boring.
FXSCALPER2 said:
The advantage of meeting bores in "real life" is that we can evaluate them easier. The way they dress and the way they behave help us to assess them in a better way. On the internet that does not happen so quickly. On the net, particularly on sites such as this, we have to weigh people by what they write. The object of your post has impressed his followers by using flowery English as a façade to disguise the fact that the only knowledge of trading he has has been copied from others more skillful than himself, some of whom believe that what they already knew has been taught to them by him!
As I mentioned before, bull**** baffles brains.
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FXSCALPER2 said:
Depends on the situation. If in a public place and trying to conduct a reasonably serious conversation, we'd move to another table. If he continued to pester us, we'd ask the proprietor to show him the door. Or give him that table for one by the kitchen.
If at a private party, most likely the host would simply hand him his hat and escort him to his car.
If at a business meeting, it's unlikely he'd be there the next day.
That leaves talk radio and the Op-Ed page, but those are easily ignored.
Dear Moderators,
Thanks for splitting this off. Some people were so confused when I tried to do same with the ‘Slashing and Bashing Unfashionable Advice’ thread …
It’s obvious that Splitting works so much better when a moderator initiates and maintains the ‘Addendum… / Slashing and Bashing’ thread. Thanks again.
zdo
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DBCooper and Socratit
Which one is the kettle? Which one is the pot?
Thanks for splitting this off. Some people were so confused when I tried to do same with the ‘Slashing and Bashing Unfashionable Advice’ thread …
It’s obvious that Splitting works so much better when a moderator initiates and maintains the ‘Addendum… / Slashing and Bashing’ thread. Thanks again.
zdo
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DBCooper and Socratit
Which one is the kettle? Which one is the pot?
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dbphoenix said:
You might not get invited to the next Wizards Lunch then...?
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/showthread.php?p=216268&highlight=wizards#post216268
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I know this is an old post but for the sake of anyone reading it I am curious as to whether you still hold this opinion? I have written my own bespoke trading application. Note: I say Trading Application and not secret system as you incorrectly interpreted from what Socrates wrote.
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it's a while I know..but maybe he will see it and return
Socrates is actually a nice chap..as I met him in London some years ago.
contrary to what most thought of him..he is a very good trader and has in depth knowledge in relation to market analysis utilizing volume.
most here thought he lost face after the option losses back in 2007..but it was me who lost a good bit of money on FTSE 100 put options..not Socco..but as i had already made the money with The Bull..it was really no big deal..learned a good bit from it actually
these forums are dead nowadays..not like years ago:whistling
LN
