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Looking realy good but , is it a 'too good to be true ' type situation ??
What do you think about tesla ?
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From 5 year pricing history, Tesla was at $240.00 (approx) - (Aug2015), while now at the end of July2020 the price lands at $1,430.00 (approx). The company has many projects both on-going and planned while the tech-space industry seems to have a lot of interest in many aspects. Tesla was a good investment if you jumped in from the start (price proves that), but if you follow and believe at the company then, ''sky is -not- the limit''. Space is.
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how much back up dose it get , from the fundamentals do they live up to the hype ?
Nasdaq: TSLA - The EV Sector will continue to grow into the decade imo.
EVs will be a major disruptor for the US electric power sector
https://chargedevs.com/newswire/new...dlsBpy735M2a7NppyqQrlfeylUCqSHMI66cqd9RAnjO_o
Nasdaq: IDEX - Ideanomics Inc. "End to End EV Solutions"
https://ideanomics.com/
EVs will be a major disruptor for the US electric power sector
https://chargedevs.com/newswire/new...dlsBpy735M2a7NppyqQrlfeylUCqSHMI66cqd9RAnjO_o
Nasdaq: IDEX - Ideanomics Inc. "End to End EV Solutions"
https://ideanomics.com/
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i see all of that bro , but what about the balance sheets the figures , do they even matter that much ?
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The EV Sector is Strong & TESLA leads the way.
"TESLA Model 3 Proof of Concept"
https://investors.ideanomics.com/2020-06-10-Ideanomics-MEG-Finalizing-Multiple-EV-Taxi-Orders
"TESLA Model 3 Proof of Concept"
https://investors.ideanomics.com/2020-06-10-Ideanomics-MEG-Finalizing-Multiple-EV-Taxi-Orders
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cantagril
Stock is insanely overvalued but if it's good enough for Tulips then it's good enough for Tesla....until it isn't. Getting the "until it isn't" bit right is what it's all about
Somewhat more seriously, there has been an increasing amount of journalese and analyst analism about how it can't possibly go higher...but then it does. I do understand the "can't" bit as the publicly known part of the the business model translates into a dose of reality being injected at some point in the not too distant etc etc...
The eagle-eyed will have noted my emphasis in the above para. Do I know what Tesla has got up its sleeve? Nope? Do you? Does anyone? Well, yes, most probably there are some, but those who do are most likely going to keep their counsel which leaves the rest of us speculating(!) about what's going to happen in Tesla-World without really having much of a clue.
I don't do stocks so I have no book to talk but there are a few questions that I have been asking myself for quite some time. I see the whole Tesla narrative as having been managed from years ago. I just don't believe that a corporation with those resources are not going to devote effort to manipulate (or stage-manage) every element that affects both their real activities and the degree of hype that surrounds the company and the apparently unhinged Musk.
So, battery day approaches. Is it going to announce a stock-boosting revolution? Ummm, most likely not but on the otoh the announcement of another notch in the steady improvement of charging times and autonomy is still going to keep them at top of the development game. On a broader front, if you look at what Tesla is doing in terms of diversification and integration and how the news of those developments will be carefully orchestrated then imho it's more a question of looking at current direction and extrapolating that in terms of possible product innovation.
Starting with batteries: it's not rocket science to realise that if they maintain a lead of any kind on battery tech then anything that needs battery is going to be fair game. Of course they can sell batteries as a product but why would they just do that when they are, after all, a vehicle manufacturing outfit? Think about what the trend is on car models: they started with the highest value and are now going for lower value higher number models. I see no reason why that policy will be changed so if it's an EV vehicle of any kind then it's fair game. We only get to hear about the headline stuff that's either announced or deliberately leaked and they're more quietly working on anything that moves - utilities, compacts, bikes, boats, planes.
All in all, the stock is currently at stupid levels but so is the market more generally and a major p/b(s) and/or a correction are in the offing and Tesla will be no exception. Can they make the stock price make sense by "catching up" to it. Again, probably not, but does that really matter? If it doesn't now then why (post aforementioned pb/correction) would it not again in the future?
Somewhat more seriously, there has been an increasing amount of journalese and analyst analism about how it can't possibly go higher...but then it does. I do understand the "can't" bit as the publicly known part of the the business model translates into a dose of reality being injected at some point in the not too distant etc etc...
The eagle-eyed will have noted my emphasis in the above para. Do I know what Tesla has got up its sleeve? Nope? Do you? Does anyone? Well, yes, most probably there are some, but those who do are most likely going to keep their counsel which leaves the rest of us speculating(!) about what's going to happen in Tesla-World without really having much of a clue.
I don't do stocks so I have no book to talk but there are a few questions that I have been asking myself for quite some time. I see the whole Tesla narrative as having been managed from years ago. I just don't believe that a corporation with those resources are not going to devote effort to manipulate (or stage-manage) every element that affects both their real activities and the degree of hype that surrounds the company and the apparently unhinged Musk.
So, battery day approaches. Is it going to announce a stock-boosting revolution? Ummm, most likely not but on the otoh the announcement of another notch in the steady improvement of charging times and autonomy is still going to keep them at top of the development game. On a broader front, if you look at what Tesla is doing in terms of diversification and integration and how the news of those developments will be carefully orchestrated then imho it's more a question of looking at current direction and extrapolating that in terms of possible product innovation.
Starting with batteries: it's not rocket science to realise that if they maintain a lead of any kind on battery tech then anything that needs battery is going to be fair game. Of course they can sell batteries as a product but why would they just do that when they are, after all, a vehicle manufacturing outfit? Think about what the trend is on car models: they started with the highest value and are now going for lower value higher number models. I see no reason why that policy will be changed so if it's an EV vehicle of any kind then it's fair game. We only get to hear about the headline stuff that's either announced or deliberately leaked and they're more quietly working on anything that moves - utilities, compacts, bikes, boats, planes.
All in all, the stock is currently at stupid levels but so is the market more generally and a major p/b(s) and/or a correction are in the offing and Tesla will be no exception. Can they make the stock price make sense by "catching up" to it. Again, probably not, but does that really matter? If it doesn't now then why (post aforementioned pb/correction) would it not again in the future?
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postman
It will just take one of the other car manufacturers to come out with some news on their own EV or battery technology and the Tesla bubble will burst. Its going up on wishes and dreams, they had to fake a profit in order for it to be considered entry into the s&p. Its a short term sell IMO.
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cantagril
As you know, I agree completely but then again I was short the s&p at around 3450 last Tuesday on the basis that going long was deranged and actually doing nothing is against my nature - better a bad trade than no trade at all
....anyway, was happy to get out at b/e and here we are at 3510.So what now pussycat? Is you short? Is you long? Is you flat?
Buy Tesla!!! Go go go! And if that doesn't tank it today then I'm a Dutchman...and that should mean that it's a big"het was leuk je te kennen" from me
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postman
You would have been able to sell at 3400 if you'd kept it till THIS Friday.As you know, I agree completely but then again I was short the s&p at around 3450 last Tuesday on the basis that going long was deranged and actually doing nothing is against my nature - better a bad trade than no trade at all
So what now pussycat? Is you short? Is you long? Is you flat?
Buy Tesla!!! Go go go! And if that doesn't tank it today then I'm a Dutchman...and that should mean that it's a big"het was leuk je te kennen" from me
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cantagril
The Orifice has spoken!You would have been able to sell at 3400 if you'd kept it till THIS Friday.
I'll be quite surprised (pleasantly so) if you're right*. I'm thinking of a bit further into September...like the Friday after
I think the Friday after Battery day would be ideal, so the 25th latest then...or is that for 2400?* Modestly Short Cac atm
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what are they up to with the recent split ? feel like there is something fishy
$TESLA and $IDEX - The EV Revolution Continues
http://allfinancetimes.com/idex-q2-tsla-five-one-stock-split/
http://allfinancetimes.com/idex-q2-tsla-five-one-stock-split/
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Everything?
Name one thing.
Tesla Leads in Global EV Production (Nasdaq-TSLA)
Produced over 145,000 vehicles and delivered nearly 140,000 vehicles in Q3 2020
Ideanomics Inc. (Nasdaq-IDEX)
Q2 $4.7 million Revenues and Forecasts Quarter-Over-Quarter Growth
EV Sales Activity of 557 Units Invoiced in July and August , Q3 Results Pending
Produced over 145,000 vehicles and delivered nearly 140,000 vehicles in Q3 2020
Ideanomics Inc. (Nasdaq-IDEX)
Q2 $4.7 million Revenues and Forecasts Quarter-Over-Quarter Growth
EV Sales Activity of 557 Units Invoiced in July and August , Q3 Results Pending
