UK Politics

The Labour manifesto should bankrupt the country pretty quickly.
Surely the socialists should have some regard for the health of the country as they pontificate.
They have produced a vast spending plan none of which will ever show a profit and is largely the same ole left wing drivel from the 1960s.
 
Pat494 said:
The Labour manifesto should bankrupt the country pretty quickly.
Surely the socialists should have some regard for the health of the country as they pontificate.
They have produced a vast spending plan none of which will ever show a profit and is largely the same ole left wing drivel from the 1960s.
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Yep, hopefully everyone knows how to vote then.
 
Pat494 said:
The Labour manifesto should bankrupt the country pretty quickly.
Surely the socialists should have some regard for the health of the country as they pontificate.
They have produced a vast spending plan none of which will ever show a profit and is largely the same ole left wing drivel from the 1960s.
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True. And like that turned out so well that we're just dying to do it again. Manifesto's are a stupid game of bluffs and auctions and mine's bigger than yours and so on.

According to The Economist, although all the major parties are looking at increased public spending and major infrastructure investments, the real differences are between what they say they will spend and what can actually physically be spent. Anything can be promised but even if its sensibly costed and clearly affordable, the UK doesn't have the structural ability to efficiently implement major infrastructure projects. Better if we just stopped pretending.
 
Pat494 said:
Easy to decide who NOT to vote for !
Having dismissed all the candidates I shall stay home today out of the rain.
The bookies had
Tories 1/3
Labour 33/1
rest nowhere.
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I only fear a hung parliament. Which keeps us where we've been for 3 years. Hard to think that a new hung parliament would be any more active than the old hung parliament.
 
Pat494 said:
. . . Having dismissed all the candidates I shall stay home today out of the rain.
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Pat - please vote!
If you don't want to put your X by any of the candidates, spoil your ballot paper and write 'none of the above' or similar. Correctly spoiled papers (as opposed to incorrectly spoiled ones - e.g. voting for more than one candidate) ARE counted. If everyone in your position did this it would send a powerful message to parliament and add to the pressure to reform our broken electoral system.

I cast my vote first thing. The weather here in south Devon is pretty grim which may, possibly, help the Tories as older voters don't like to go out in bad weather unless they can drive or be taxied to the polling station. This means Labour could be negatively impacted.
Tim.
 
tomorton said:
I only fear a hung parliament. Which keeps us where we've been for 3 years. Hard to think that a new hung parliament would be any more active than the old hung parliament.
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Even a majority parliament is not going to guarantee Brexit, many more years ahead of this Brexit debacle.
 
Signalcalc said:
Even a majority parliament is not going to guarantee Brexit, many more years ahead of this Brexit debacle.
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Yes, there's more to life than just today's result.

If Boris Johnson has a majority, Brexit will start, and we enter the transition period and trade deal negotiations.

If he pulls the plug on unfavourable trade negotiations and announces we're leaving with no deal, he can expect an immediate leadership challenge from another Conservative, which he will probably lose.

If trade talks continue favourably for Johnson, or if he is replaced by another Conservative, I expect the outcome to look like Brexit in name only.
 
tomorton said:
Yes, there's more to life than just today's result.

If Boris Johnson has a majority, Brexit will start, and we enter the transition period and trade deal negotiations.

If he pulls the plug on unfavourable trade negotiations and announces we're leaving with no deal, he can expect an immediate leadership challenge from another Conservative, which he will probably lose.

If trade talks continue favourably for Johnson, or if he is replaced by another Conservative, I expect the outcome to look like Brexit in name only.
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And then the campaign to leave starts all over again.
 
Signalcalc said:
And then the campaign to leave starts all over again.
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Yes. I would expect Nigel Farrage to go ballistic but there won't be another Brexit referendum under Johnson or a new Conservative leader and his "let's leave properly" campaign won't get any traction.
 
timsk said:
Pat - please vote!
If you don't want to put your X by any of the candidates, spoil your ballot paper and write 'none of the above' or similar. Correctly spoiled papers (as opposed to incorrectly spoiled ones - e.g. voting for more than one candidate) ARE counted. If everyone in your position did this it would send a powerful message to parliament and add to the pressure to reform our broken electoral system.

I cast my vote first thing. The weather here in south Devon is pretty grim which may, possibly, help the Tories as older voters don't like to go out in bad weather unless they can drive or be taxied to the polling station. This means Labour could be negatively impacted.
Tim.
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Protest vote from me, Tories had a 62% share of the vote in my constituency in 2017, so it's a given.
 
tomorton said:
Yes. I would expect Nigel Farrage to go ballistic but there won't be another Brexit referendum under Johnson or a new Conservative leader and his "let's leave properly" campaign won't get any traction.
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Farage has helped to manipulate this election, I expect he will exert pressure on Boris in some form, isn't he about to announce the formation of a new party post election (assuming Tories win)?
 
timsk said:
Pat - please vote!
If you don't want to put your X by any of the candidates, spoil your ballot paper and write 'none of the above' or similar. Correctly spoiled papers (as opposed to incorrectly spoiled ones - e.g. voting for more than one candidate) ARE counted. If everyone in your position did this it would send a powerful message to parliament and add to the pressure to reform our broken electoral system.

I cast my vote first thing. The weather here in south Devon is pretty grim which may, possibly, help the Tories as older voters don't like to go out in bad weather unless they can drive or be taxied to the polling station. This means Labour could be negatively impacted.
Tim.
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Yes see your point Tim.
However mine was/is a postal vote so it is too late for me.
A possible upgrade of the present system would be to have a fixed term of office e.g. 4 or 5 years.
It would discourage hung Parlts and give more continuity imho.
 
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