UK Politics

knuckle draggin Boris, knuckle draggin Corbyn, knuckle draggin May, knuckle draggin Cable, knuckle draggin the lot of them, kinell, there isn't a real world braincell between them all.

Put them out to pasture and lets have some fresh air in the house, people that will get on with the job of government rather than just draggin their knuckles all the time.

Feckin eejits.
 
Can the NHS deal with that or does he need to go private?

Not a problem, the NHS have performed hundreds of procedures on members of the Police Service and Labour over the last couple of years, Att is just another number in their machine.

The Armed Forces are next.
 
Not a problem, the NHS have performed hundreds of procedures on members of the Police Service and Labour over the last couple of years, Att is just another number in their machine.

The Armed Forces are next.

What on earth you two mumbling on about... :rolleyes:

Enjoy... :cool:


 
Philosophy.

"Our societies are intellectual shanty towns. Our beliefs about the world and each other have been created by the same system that has lied us into repeated wars that have killed millions."
Julian Assange
 
Philosophy.

"Our societies are intellectual shanty towns. Our beliefs about the world and each other have been created by the same system that has lied us into repeated wars that have killed millions."
Julian Assange

But that's just human nature isn't it? – And it's unlikely to change.
 
But that's just human nature isn't it? – And it's unlikely to change.

But we live in enlightened, modern times, where technology provides us with the means to question the system as long as those that control the system allow us to question it.
 
But we live in enlightened, modern times, where technology provides us with the means to question the system as long as those that control the system allow us to question it.


I tend to support the pendulum theory. One day it will swing back - maybe with a vengeance.
It could happen in ole Britain too. Many barriers are in place to keep terrorism etc. under control but an assasination or two could throw it into meltdown and give a budding dictator his chance.
Populist rebel rousers are a constant danger.
Jews were the scapegoat in Nazi Germany but who next ?
Reasons are easily manufactured and quickly believed.
Nazism was founded on a major lie.
 
I tend to support the pendulum theory. One day it will swing back - maybe with a vengeance.
It could happen in ole Britain too. Many barriers are in place to keep terrorism etc. under control but an assasination or two could throw it into meltdown and give a budding dictator his chance.
Populist rebel rousers are a constant danger.
Jews were the scapegoat in Nazi Germany but who next ?
Reasons are easily manufactured and quickly believed.
Nazism was founded on a major lie.

I'd be interested to know where you see danger, in what sections of society?

I don't support the notion that we should be comparing the Nazi era with the era we live in now. There are no groups of people following a leader that are calling for the extermination of another race of people, maybe calling to vote them out of power, yes, but that is democracy, not totalitarianism.

What I see in Britain are growing body of people that are afraid that a certain minority that support Islam/Sharia are calling for the extermination of Western civilisation. They see that Islamic barbarism exists elsewhere in various spots around the globe that does indeed end in totalitarianism and extermination of local populations. That is a very scary prospect and at that stage I would support the notion of an association with Nazism, but we are no where near that stage at the moment.

If popularism keeps us away from a Sharia controlled future then I only see this as a benefit, anything else is unthinkable in a Western society. Even a legal pluralistic society is not tolerable in the context of Sharia, given that Islam is a conquering ideology and that already does exist in places like Indonesia, India, Pakistan etc
 
Hypocracy.
 

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But we live in enlightened, modern times, where technology provides us with the means to question the system as long as those that control the system allow us to question it.

Just been listening to radio 4, a program all about the deep state. All countries suffer from it, some more than others. But for anyone who believes in democracy and truth, deep state is the explanation and the reason why the general public can never quite get to the bottom of anything.
 
Just been listening to radio 4, a program all about the deep state. All countries suffer from it, some more than others. But for anyone who believes in democracy and truth, deep state is the explanation and the reason why the general public can never quite get to the bottom of anything.

Fascinating that the BBC is acknowledging that what was once considered crackpot conspiracy theory does exist. I bet they didn't acknowledge the massive part the BBC plays as a member of the deep state though did they?

Is it worth a listen to understand the propagandists spin?
 
I tend to support the pendulum theory. One day it will swing back - maybe with a vengeance.
It could happen in ole Britain too. Many barriers are in place to keep terrorism etc. under control but an assasination or two could throw it into meltdown and give a budding dictator his chance.
Populist rebel rousers are a constant danger.
Jews were the scapegoat in Nazi Germany but who next ?
Reasons are easily manufactured and quickly believed.
Nazism was founded on a major lie.

Just another thought to add into the melting pot. There is a theory, arising from different sources that the real reason for mass immigration and a reason why UKGov increases immigration YoY, rather than what they say they will do which is to reduce it, is all to do with bank profits rather than any unfounded, spurious reasons based on ageing populations or healthcare or to maintain tax revenue etc.

Mass immigration creates demand for housing (amongst a whole other raft of services provided by the private sector and funded by banks), the banks invest into the housing market through various means, loans to builders, mortgages, funds, direct purchase, they make billions from this.

The simplistic equation is that more immigrants = more demand for housing = more £££££, more demand also drives higher house prices = even more £££££ profit, so it's an absoloute win/win for all concerned and maintains support from the banks for whichever govt is in power maintaining the balance between supply and demand in the housing market.

Reducing immigration has the opposite effect on bank profits, banks don't care about the social consequences, in fact it may create even more opportunities for profit as whole new industries spring up to deal with the 'issues' of migration, until it looks like their monopoly might be under threat from say, a populist govt.

The whole thing from top to bottom is a state controlled monopoly, it benefits house owners into the bargain. Then the state controls the narrative, shuts down dissent and free speech and has us believe that multiculturalism and diversity is good for us and is a strength.

The job of government is to support poor 3rd world immigrants with housing/benefits/healthcare etc, they are state dependent for life, generating cash to pay for the consequences of immigration is easy by taxing those who work, the circle is complete. Working people of host nations are implicitly complicit by paying tax for which they have no choice and little say in what happens to it, the only choice is to vote.

You can see why UKGov (and other Western Govts) control a deep state in order to support their monopolies, we don't live in a Democracy we live in a Corporatocracy, Orwellian indeed.
 

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