Took out a loan to transition to full-time trading. 24 years old.

Day 13 Notes:
Thinking back on today's trading, I made critical mistakes that explains the huge loss. I started the day with small positions in VALE and DUST. If VALE's support broke, there would be a downside of 3+% and also the chart looked like it had a downward pressure. I went in with 25% position but after seeing the initial upward thrust, instead of pulling out waited a little more and doubled down, telling myself I will exit if the thrust continues. I exited but not following the original plan cost me about 1-1.5% in losses.
For DUST, I tried to time the bounce with 25% position but when the GDX was slowly creeping up, I ignored the signs that it could go either was and assumed it would be down because GDX has been rising so much lately, it was due for a downfall. I should have pulled out when I saw the GDX forming relative strength to further upside, at which point I was down about 3% in my position, but I waited. And after GOLD made a jump upwards, instead of exiting I went all in, assuming and half hoping this was a fake thrust. I think my decisions in DUST were due to my beginning of day assumptions that Dollar was bound to go up in shortterm and Gold was bound to go down. However, that short term could be anywhere from within a day to a week. I think my loss in DUST was due to the tendency of not trying to be wrong, and not exiting the day for a loss. There wern't any other good plays to go into, so I held onto the current bad positions, hoping 1) other opportunities would open up in which case I would switch positions and/or 2) hoping luck is on my side on such a no action day and when the action happens, it would go my way. I originally thought today's loss was due to a simple mistake, but I think there was a lot of instances I could have worked better to improve my results. I gotta pick it up real quick if I really want to live day-to-day just trading.
 
Day 14:
Beginning of day: $38341.64
End of day: $35489.82
P/L: ($2851.82); -7.44%
Weekly P/L: -5.46%
YTD P/L: -0.27%

Withdrew $489.82 for personal expenses and will start Monday with $35000.

JBLU (332.39)
AAL (2262.49)
TSLA (1024.46)
VRX +998.25
DUST (230.73)

Hm... started the day with airline stocks. Thought they were oversold and if NASDAQ holds, or rebounds, airlines would go up. Picked two of the four airlines stock I watch. NASDAQ was being pressured downwards heavily I think, due to Europe markets pulling down. Airline stocks were trying to stay afloat but dropped. What surprised me here was the drop in AAL. Was deciding between AAL or SAVE.. and I had to pick the loser. I guess the CEO changed the term of his contract in AAL which gave investors lose confidence in the stock. AAL dropped a lot more than I expected but I didn't sell even if it touched -1% because other airlines were not dropping like that. It was just that company and I should've cut it short but I thought it would be a temporary oversell and it would bounce back to levels similar to SAVE, but nope, it just stayed down. Loss in JBLU was as expected and loss in AAL was by surprise and I lost big.
NASDAQ was being a little btich all day and could not pull up. When it was making a potential reversal I thought I saw an opportunity in TSLA for a bounce. Went in, and when the support broke, I went out. Power of 4x leverage... lost 1K. Thought I saw a similar opportunity in VRX and went in... it did bounce but exited way too early... this time I took off half and took off the other half at a higher place yet it just went a lot higher. Haha.. crap. Thought to make a quick one with DUST but it wasn't pulling up from the massive drop.
Overall, giving myself 1- stars for today's trading. Markets were bad, yea, so what? With my positioning, things could've gotten real south real quick. I went all in on trades that wasn't clear, trying to make a redemption for the week. Ended up losing all the gains for the week and more, and now im back to where I started. This week's been a really tough week to trade. Volatile, unexpected earnings; macro economic factors affecting the markets; S&P near its peak not knowing to go up or down in the future; low volume during the days for most of the days. This does not look good.. was up 15% first week and now im even. Crap.. going to be repicturing today's trades in my head, rest up during the weekend, and start again on Monday. FML.
 
I think you are pushing way too much.
$500 a day would be enough for you so why do you need positions way bigger than that?
You lack any kind of reasonable discipline to achieve your goal. I would say you are gambling and not trading.
$500 a day and in 3 months you have a roll of $65k with a bit withdrawn. What's the hurry?
Good luck anyway but I am moving in to the bad idea camp unless you can stick to a more realistic day to day plan.
 
I think you are pushing way too much.
$500 a day would be enough for you so why do you need positions way bigger than that?
You lack any kind of reasonable discipline to achieve your goal. I would say you are gambling and not trading.
$500 a day and in 3 months you have a roll of $65k with a bit withdrawn. What's the hurry?
Good luck anyway but I am moving in to the bad idea camp unless you can stick to a more realistic day to day plan.

1-2% a trade dude max .......perhaps 3% if you really like the dynamics ...but don't push the envelope ..........as Nick says your luck will run out ..........:cool:

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Your forgetting the 3rd man

Person A: 25,000
Person B: 0
Broker 0

Person A lends Person B £25,000 [N.B: This isn't Central Banking chicanery, the £25,000 came from real savings not from thin air]

Person A: 0
Person B: 25,000
Broker: 0

Person B looses...no...losses...umm...blows the lot trading

Person A: 0
Person B: 0
Broker: 25,0000

Person B must now spend the next 12 months saving to repay the £25,000 Person A saved. The books are balanced again!

Person A: 25,000
Person B: 0
Broker: 25,000

Where's the extra 25k come from?
Maybe the bank issued new money to giving credit for people that having business and bank also get profit interest rate from loan , I don't know for sure
 
p.s Private School, not high school

Time for your parents to demand their money back :LOL: :smart:

Seriously, everyone is entitled to make a mistake, even ffsear, so maybe his mistake should be forgotten. We've all said or done something embarrassing.
 
Cardinal Rule in trading - Only PLay the markets taht you can affordv to lose. If you take out a loan to trade etc that can be strssful and a big debt on head to start with
 
Maybe the guy is an experienced trader and having a big laugh ?

:LOL:
 
Day 15:
Beginning of day: $35000.00
End of day: $45491.95
P/L: $10491.95; +29.98%

Haha...started the day off with DUST. Thought GDX would break early because it rose so much in such a short period of time but nope, it would not. Was still in DUST when I saw the big drops in VRX due to Warren Buffetts comments on VRX over the weekend. Watched the chart until I saw a good reversal sign and exited all my positions in DUST and went all in on VRX. VRX started to bounce but the bounce was very strong and there wasn't a substantial pullback. Went to stocktwits to see what was happening and my man Ackman was saying good things about the company in CNBC. Got lucky on VRX again :) Made all my money today on VRX.
My trading would be 2+ stars today for the horrible entries/exits in DUST but today was my biggest earning day so far, so going to give myself 2 bumps and rate 3 stars for today's trading. Riding VRX wasn't difficult because there wern't any notable pullbacks along the way and there was strong volume and good stability. Was hoping/thought it might see green today but.. this works. Seeing green would have been amazing though.. WOOT what a nice start to the month. Going to concentrate on maintaining this capital..
Also switching from scottrade to IB. Last Friday did a calculation on my trades for the past 3 weeks and the transaction costs alone cost me over $1500.... fml. Not sure if I will be able to credit my new IB account tomorrow to trade, but will definitely trade on Weds.
 
@Pat494 - Haha I wish... but far from it. @NickBk Yea I agree to sticking with a more realistic day to day plan. I feel like I start trading slow and steady, and when my consistency goes up so does my greed for money and I always run into those big losses that just wipes out my profits. I have a lot to improve on the mental game..
 
Day 15 Correction:
End of day: $45492.74
P/L: $10492.74; +29.98%
Sold all my positions in VRX except 1 share because of a mistype, and the share rose more than 2%...haha wow.
 
@Pat494 - Haha I wish... but far from it. @NickBk Yea I agree to sticking with a more realistic day to day plan. I feel like I start trading slow and steady, and when my consistency goes up so does my greed for money and I always run into those big losses that just wipes out my profits. I have a lot to improve on the mental game..

Super day.
I do think that if you only did $500/600 a day for the rest of the month it would be way better for your longevity and your roll will start to build nicely along with your confidence.
Good luck
 
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