Moderation

Lightning McQueen

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I quite like that idea

I can see a lot of positives, and not much downside.

I'd probably be a lot more inclined to contribute under those circumstances
from a moderation point of view it doesn't work well. for one it isn't good for mod moral, for example they could be sat there powerless to respond to vendor spam if it's posted outside their board of responsibility if there are mods off duty. it's also a waste of a finite resource, 2 global mods can easily do the work of 4 to 5 forum mods.

but please outline your views of the positives, are there any?
 
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VielGeld

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:D thank you gents, that clears that up nicely.

i had visions of previous "experiments" where the boards are carved up and each new mod given a slice.
Yes, this is a good idea if the board is too large for a couple "global" mods to overlook. Each one could be assigned a defined area to moderate. Mods have less tendency to trip over each other in that case.

Whether T2W is at point or not is up to debate, though. I think 5 mods is a good number, but it's only my 2nd day on the job so I can't offer a more concrete opinion than that. :)
 

the hare

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Go on then...float your ideas.

I've been waiting a long time for you to contribute....and i'm running out of tea and biscuits !:LOL:
I honestly think that at the moment, your moderation policy is only as strong as your weakest link... That's not meant to be a criticism, just an observation

By having clearly defined boundaries, it immediately becomes apparent whose moderation style encourages member participation, and whose style stifles debate.

That's not a criticism of any particular moderator, but its a fact that the relationship between moderators and members comes down to the type of personality that individuals possess. By having separate areas these potential clashes of personality could potentially be avoided.

I don't post anything remotely of value these days as I know a certain moderator will most likely stick their oar in, but if I knew that the chances of having my post vandalized where unlikely, then I'd be more inclined to post.
 

Lightning McQueen

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Yes, this is a good idea if the board is too large for a couple "global" mods to overlook. Each one could be assigned a defined area to moderate. Mods have less tendency to trip over each other in that case.

Whether T2W is at point or not is up to debate, though. I think 5 mods is a good number, but it's only my 2nd day on the job so I can't offer a more concrete opinion than that. :)
it would have to be a huge board imo. with 5 mods on i will guarantee you'll be tripping over each other big time.

but have fun with it, don't feel too peeved when you spend several minutes editing a thread to keep it live. only to find your masterpiece has been deleted while you edit (y)
 

Lightning McQueen

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I honestly think that at the moment, your moderation policy is only as strong as your weakest link... That's not meant to be a criticism, just an observation

By having clearly defined boundaries, it immediately becomes apparent whose moderation style encourages member participation, and whose style stifles debate.

That's not a criticism of any particular moderator, but its a fact that the relationship between moderators and members comes down to the type of personality that individuals possess. By having separate areas these potential clashes of personality could potentially be avoided.

I don't post anything remotely of value these days as I know a certain moderator will most likely stick their oar in, but if I knew that the chances of having my post vandalized where unlikely, then I'd be more inclined to post.
i don't believe that can happen now under the new "rules"
 

Lightning McQueen

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Maybe you didn't notice mate but we are from different time zones :)
it only takes 2 on at the same time to be an issue, you'll find out soon enough ;)

so who's the unfortunate one who's got the early morning uk time slot?
 
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the hare

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it would have to be a huge board imo. with 5 mods on i will guarantee you'll be tripping over each other big time.

but have fun with it, don't feel too peeved when you spend several minutes editing a thread to keep it live. only to find your masterpiece has been deleted while you edit (y)
Good examples of why separating responsibility is a good idea !

However, Tar actually makes some very valid points. I often forget that the moderators role is voluntary, and I understand why someone doing this free of charge would want to minimize the amount of hassle and commitment. Being pragmatic, I guess you have to do it to suit what the moderators are prepared to put up with.

It's been suggested before but a lot of the problems with spam etc could be handled semi automatically at least. All it needs is some sort of reported post feature, if 5 or so regular members flag something as iffy, its gets stuck in the moderation queue. I'd quite happily flag those kinds of posts and I suspect most other regular members would too.
 

counter_violent

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I honestly think that at the moment, your moderation policy is only as strong as your weakest link... That's not meant to be a criticism, just an observation

By having clearly defined boundaries, it immediately becomes apparent whose moderation style encourages member participation, and whose style stifles debate.

That's not a criticism of any particular moderator, but its a fact that the relationship between moderators and members comes down to the type of personality that individuals possess. By having separate areas these potential clashes of personality could potentially be avoided.

I don't post anything remotely of value these days as I know a certain moderator will most likely stick their oar in, but if I knew that the chances of having my post vandalized where unlikely, then I'd be more inclined to post.
All very cryptic i'm sure.

I'll tell you what...I don't Need to moderate....how about that!
 

Trader333

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The changes to the icons were made yesterday and as Steve has said we are just waiting for them to be uploaded to the correct location. After that all moderators will have the same badge that just says moderator.
 

Lightning McQueen

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Good examples of why separating responsibility is a good idea !

However, Tar actually makes some very valid points. I often forget that the moderators role is voluntary, and I understand why someone doing this free of charge would want to minimize the amount of hassle and commitment. Being pragmatic, I guess you have to do it to suit what the moderators are prepared to put up with.

It's been suggested before but a lot of the problems with spam etc could be handled semi automatically at least. All it needs is some sort of reported post feature, if 5 or so regular members flag something as iffy, its gets stuck in the moderation queue. I'd quite happily flag those kinds of posts and I suspect most other regular members would too.
there are rules in place to stop this tripping over each other, it shouldn't be an issue if it was managed properly, like perhaps having a lock button or something so other mods are locked out from deleting posts in a thread or from a particular member. or simply they actually look at who's was doing what before acting.

they've tried in the past to auto the anti spam to relieve mods of the task. remember the constant phone ads littering the place? it dealt with those very well. it's a very clever system but often gets it completely wrong and members posts have to be released from it's clutches. saves work in one place only to move an expanded workload elsewhere. i'm guessing they still run it?