December CBOT Wheat

Andreas

Active member
The island top formation is confirmed now and we can expect some retracement. Maybe to the 38% retracement of the move that started end of June, maybe even to the 50% level.
There is strong support at 353 1/4, the old resistance from May and June.
 

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Andreas

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On the weekly chart...

We see a completed reverse H&S pattern. A retracement on the daily to the 50% level, would correspond to a retracement to the neck line on the weekly. This is not uncommon of course. But it has to stop there in order for the pattern to be valid and the next leg up. Just my 2 cents.

Good trades to you all !
Andreas
 

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ianshep

Junior member
Andreas,

Thank you for posting the chart. The textbook Evening Star formation had caught my eye but I was too busy/lazy to post it up!

One more factor supporting a retracement from here is that the long white candle that opened the Evening Star pushed outside the top Bollinger Band (2 std devs) and the candle that closed the pattern dropped back into the band.

The conventional wisdom initial target for this BB set up is the centre of the band i.e. the 20ema, currently at about 370.

I have taken a wee short position with some trepidation as this sort of countertrend play is not my normal territory. It is often described as 'stepping in front of a freight train' which is not a particularly elegant expression. 'Catching a falling knife' is much more evocative but I can't think of how to turn the expression upside down! 'Trying to catch a space shuttle'? 'Riding a rocket'?
Hhhmmm. I'll keep trying.
 

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Andreas

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ianshep,

Nice chart ! I use Bollinger Bands standard with my spread trading, because specially there they are very reliable. Only I use them with the 20 SMA in stead of the EMA. If the retracement goes back to the 20 SMA initially, this corresponds with the 38% retracement. I agree with you about the 'freigt train' :D

Good trades to you !
Regards,
Andreas
 

Andreas

Active member
Wheat bounced off support at the 38% retracement. Looks like it is ready to continue up. Fridays move upward however was in light pre-holiday trade, so don't be surprised if the markets give some gains back, when they open again on Tuesday.

Good trades to all,
Regards,

Andreas
 

motty

Newbie
I am new to this game, and currently have an open position on wheat, It is a down bet and it surprised me a little the gain it made on friday, I was a bit disappointed as I had just broken through the spread into profit and then suddenly it sprang the other way. Do you think it will rise further or continue to fall like it has over last few days. Any comments/advise greatly rec'd.
Motty
 

JonnyT

Senior member
It's still in an uptrend so personally I wouldn't short yet.

Anything below 354 and I'll join in with a short.

JonnyT
 

motty

Newbie
Its at an all time high though i thought and have been advised that it will start to drop, 354 seems a hell of a drop from 380. do you think it can go even higher
Motty
 

Andreas

Active member
The fact that it is at an all time high, does not mean it can not go higher. The longer term trend is still up, and so far the pull back after the island top, can be regarded as a correction in an uptrend. Just be cautious.

Best regards, and good trades !

Andreas
 

ianshep

Junior member
Motty,

The pattern discussed above was at the CONTRACT high for December Wheat and led to a 38% retracement (of the advance) back to the 20 day moving average. FWIW, I'm back in long for the next upleg.

I have no idea what the all time high for wheat is, but if you look at this monthly continuation chart (i.e. not the chart of any one contract) you'll see that wheat was significantly more expensive at this time last year and was twice the price in 1996!
 

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Andreas

Active member
On the weekly chart the neck line has been broken, which negates the reverse H&S formation.
On the daily chart prices are at the 50% retracement of the rally which started in June. The next few sessions will show if the prices can find support here. If support is broken it would mean that the longer term uptrend is over.
 

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JonnyT

Senior member
Andreas,

I think the uptrend is broken and am looking for further weakness.

54 was my critical level.

JonnyT
 

Andreas

Active member
JonnyT,

Yesterdays close has proven you right. Let's see where it holds. What are you currently trading, if I may ask ?

Have a good weekend,
Andreas
 

bgold

Established member
Don't yet give up on wheat!

Yesterdays' reversal bouncing of resistance at 348 1/2 is a bullish engulfing pattern confirming another one of 30/31July. It keeps the bullish scenario open. Especially, if you subscribe to elliott wave count that this low is ii of 3 up, projecting Wheat long term toward the '97 highs and short term above the August highs. One should, though, recognise the considerable resistance in the 365-367 1/2 falling window/gap.
 

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ianshep

Junior member
Toad,

As you say, the gap seems to be the critical point in the short term. To jump the gun completely, a small rally that fails at the overhead gap would set up the right shoulder of a H+S pattern with a target of around 2980!

Interesting times.
 

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Andreas

Active member
JonnyT,

The trend is down now, as you earlier said, and from that perspective a test of the lows at 312 - 315 would not surprise me. The only thing that "worries" me here are the positive divergences in MACD and MOM, which would indicate a return to the uptrend.
The next few sessions will bring more clarity.

Andreas
 

bgold

Established member
Wheat , Corn & Cocoa

Dec Wheat: Trend is down but 348 is very strong support!! Also Open Interest seems to be shrinking which might abate further selling of longs. I agree with you all (Andreas, JohnnyT, Ianshep) that WZ3 can gop much lower but I do want to see a breach of 348 support.

PS. Andreas, i don't see the divergence in MOM and MACD. My charts show that they are not lower than at the previous price lows but those were much lower than today.

DEC Corn: What a sell-off!! As long as support at the 223- rising window at 223-226 holds, I can still see another leg up.

DEC Cocoa: idem above. Interesting to see OI dropping from 33k to 27k in past 6days! Is CC bottoming?


PS2 How does one upload graphs? I am using eSignal.
 

ianshep

Junior member
Re: Wheat , Corn & Cocoa

toad said:
PS2 How does one upload graphs? I am using eSignal.

Toad,

This is what I do (works for any charting application on a Windows machine but needs Microsoft Powerpoint):

- Click 'ALT' + 'Prt Sc' buttons together (to get the screen shot of my chart into the cut buffer)

- Open a blank presentation in Powerpoint

- Click 'CTRL' + 'V' to paste my chart to a Powerpoint slide

- Crop it, draw trendlines, comments etc.

- Click 'Save As...' and choose type '.png'. (Just save the one slide, not the whole presentation, when it asks)

- In the T2W post page, 'Attach file' section, browse to the .png file.

Many other drawing applications would also do the job but I find Powerpoint the most convenient. Happy charting!
 
 
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