Indeed. My DQO reached the 29th position with 20 months of trading in Darwinex.
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FFV leading Darwinia at moment. seems to be a pretty good darwin. 3 solid years. D leverage goes up when his equity curve goes up.
what do people think about FFV
what do people think about FFV
I also want to document here the payout of the hall of fame to compare it with next month:
It shows the total of the success of the traders at Darwinex generated from investor fees (currently 15% for traders) and DarwinIA prizes (also 15%) and is paid after 3 months.
In the week ending at 19th of February the payout exceeded 3 millions as Darwinex informed via email on the 19th of February:
It shows the total of the success of the traders at Darwinex generated from investor fees (currently 15% for traders) and DarwinIA prizes (also 15%) and is paid after 3 months.
In the week ending at 19th of February the payout exceeded 3 millions as Darwinex informed via email on the 19th of February:
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Today the hall of fame show a new value on the payout:
The difference of about 8.734 EUR includes investor fees for one day and the DarwinIA payout for March.
The fee agreement for both sources is 15 %.
That implies a profit of about 58,226 EUR for the relevant 3 months period made by Darwins for their investors or DarwinIA.
The difference of about 8.734 EUR includes investor fees for one day and the DarwinIA payout for March.
The fee agreement for both sources is 15 %.
That implies a profit of about 58,226 EUR for the relevant 3 months period made by Darwins for their investors or DarwinIA.
It is too early to estimate the earnings from Darwinia, you have to wait until day 5.
My highest earning for KVL back in 2018 was paid on Day 5.
That amount - 3006k of the end of February will be very close to the Darwinia payout.
Since the reduction because of equity multipliers the amount is always close to 20k.
My highest earning for KVL back in 2018 was paid on Day 5.
That amount - 3006k of the end of February will be very close to the Darwinia payout.
Since the reduction because of equity multipliers the amount is always close to 20k.
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I was waiting til the afternoon because some of my prizes were processed in the afternoon, while allocation is always assigned in the morning.
It seems I was right
3026k - 3006k = 20k mostly due to Darwinia.
Given it is Friday evening,5.day in new month,all fees are already 'in the bank'.
Good estimate for Darwinia!If we take 20k as all coming from darwinia fees(15% fee),that brings us to 133k profits on all allocations for Darwinia due for Quarterly payout.Do you have some estimate how much allocation was in the play?That would be worth 2 months of allocation if I understand it right-one monthly allocation reaching end of first Quarter and another monthly allocation reaching it's second Quarter end.
Good estimate for Darwinia!If we take 20k as all coming from darwinia fees(15% fee),that brings us to 133k profits on all allocations for Darwinia due for Quarterly payout.Do you have some estimate how much allocation was in the play?That would be worth 2 months of allocation if I understand it right-one monthly allocation reaching end of first Quarter and another monthly allocation reaching it's second Quarter end.
That would calculate as 1,7-1,8% Quarterly profit for allocations under new D-score regime.Not bad.Maybe darwinex found their 'working' DWEX with this:7% per year without leverage and great diversification?
EDIT:I summed up darwinia allocations for November batch(they just ended their first Quarter and got their first fees)- 5.322 Mil was total allocation.71% of theoretical max. allocation.
If they made half of 133k profits:that would translate into 1,25% Quarterly profit and 5,0% yearly profit.
EDIT:I summed up darwinia allocations for November batch(they just ended their first Quarter and got their first fees)- 5.322 Mil was total allocation.71% of theoretical max. allocation.
If they made half of 133k profits:that would translate into 1,25% Quarterly profit and 5,0% yearly profit.
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The fact that they pay a performance fee does not mean the "portfolio" makes money.
Just like private investors they pay the few performers (that can be a small tail of lucky monkeys) but lose overall.
As investor I always paid ~3% of the allocated portfolio capital as performace fee, even in losing years.
Darwinia portfolio is not a working DWEX and I don't think they have one.
Just like private investors they pay the few performers (that can be a small tail of lucky monkeys) but lose overall.
As investor I always paid ~3% of the allocated portfolio capital as performace fee, even in losing years.
Darwinia portfolio is not a working DWEX and I don't think they have one.
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Yeah,I wasn't thinking about losses
.Anyway it is too early to estimate results of big changes during 2020 on Darwinia performance.The last changes became operational with October 2020 Darwinia...
I summed up february 2021 and they allocated 4925k/7500k so 65%
Let's consider they are allocating 70% on average, it is 30 millions.
Highly diversified portfolios lose on average 1% per month (very low risk losing
)They would lose 300k per month if it were real money, paying 20k makes much more sense.
Let's go to real earnings for them: management fees.
The total real AUM from investors is at least 30 millions, so it is 360k revenue per year and they spend 240k per year to pay Darwinia performers.
I think trading makes sense and alpha exists but this business model would work even with no alpha at all, efficent market and 100% random monkeys.
Addendum,from Trader's side:very few darwins (at the moment less than 10% of active darwins and there are accounts without darwins also and closed darwins every month), make it to 60 d-score and 40% rebates and become reasonably attractive for investors and competitive in darwinia. All the rest are paying nice commissions.
Sorry, the 3006K were from last weekend, on Tuesday evening there were 3015k total performance paid (see screenshot, copied from above).It seems I was right
3026k - 3006k = 20k mostly due to Darwinia.
I assume they pay much less than 20k in the majority of all months, at least with the VaR cutting alpha stuff.
I did not look at the hall of fame yesterday, but are you sure DarwinIA payout is added until now?
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