Ukraine invasion

Oh dear oh dear CV - is that really the best you can do?

I think the answer is yes, and unfortunately I think he is a representative example of the majority, which is why democracy is such a shit system. Most people would rather die than think.

New Atlas does an excellent job of analyzing and commenting on the Russia/Ukraine war and he provides references and links to all the material he uses, which, ironically, are mostly mainstream, western sources!

What is interesting is reading the comments on the New Atlas videos. There are many subscribers who are so clearly and obviously well informed, experienced ex-military servicemen who agree with everything Brian is saying. Many of them have also said that whenever they comment on other social media platforms they are called “Putin Lovers” or “Russia bots”...the typical slogan style retorts of ignorant people.

An excellent example of how ALL politicians lie, obfuscate and deflect is the current cost of living crisis. I (and others) have been warning for years how the Monetary and Fiscal policies being pursued will lead to high or very high inflation. Who are the politicians blaming? Putin!

No doubt if I tried to explain the source of inflation to CavaliereVerde he will call me a Putin Lover! :ROFLMAO:
 
They're both actors, but Stiller is a bit more experienced, he's just making sure Zelensky is sticking to the script.

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Cavalier!

You were asking why we are always talking about the US when it was Russia who has invaded Ukraine?

When Iran was told to stay out of the Iraq war (supporting the Shia interests) whilst the US travelled 000s of miles to fight in an illegal and unjust war, where there were no WMD, the level of duplicity and hypocrisy was just simply out of this world.

Now we find US CIA operating in Ukraine next to Russia, training Avoz battalion and operating illegal bio-labs, conducting WMD research not allowed in the US of A and then telling Russia, much like Iran to stay out of Ukraine is freaking unbelievable.
 
As I already said, US is often wrong and there is a lot of hypocrisy.
There is a huge difference between invading a country and helping a country to defend its borders.
US invasion of Iraq was not so supported internationally.
Personally I never bought the BS of WMD.
What I think is that in this specific case Ukraine is right and Russia is wrong so I support every way of fighting russians in Ukraine.
 
Who started the war? Ukraine.

and for all fans of conspiracy theories: the german chancellor Olaf Scholz is probably a freemason
His speech in 2017:
https://freimaurerei.de/senatsempfang-fuer-freimaurer-in-hamburg/ (German)
https://www.guidograndt.de/2012/09/18/olaf-scholz-spd-ole-von-beust-cdu-und-die-freimaurer/ (German)
(there are more without real evedence)
 
Prof. John Mearsheimer laying to rest the myths about Russian imperialism and pointing the finger of blame for the war squarely where it belongs - at the U.S. and its allies. His lecture entitled: 'Ukraine war | An unmitigated disaster' is a very detailed, fully referenced and totally plausible account of all that's happened, why it's happened and what will likely happen going forward. An absolute must watch for anyone who wants to know the reality behind the quagmire of lies and propaganda - the bulk of which are coming from the west. Enjoy . . .

 
Prof. John Mearsheimer laying to rest the myths about Russian imperialism and pointing the finger of blame for the war squarely where it belongs - at the U.S. and its allies. His lecture entitled: 'Ukraine war | An unmitigated disaster' is a very detailed, fully referenced and totally plausible account of all that's happened, why it's happened and what will likely happen going forward. An absolute must watch for anyone who wants to know the reality behind the quagmire of lies and propaganda - the bulk of which are coming from the west. Enjoy . . .


This is a very good analysis of the situation and not far from what the anti-war posters here have been saying.

Quite scary outcomes towards the end. Nuclear war doesn't seem too far stretched does it.

I do feel US foreign policy needs to be checked.
 
Prof. John Mearsheimer laying to rest the myths about Russian imperialism and pointing the finger of blame for the war squarely where it belongs - at the U.S. and its allies. His lecture entitled: 'Ukraine war | An unmitigated disaster' is a very detailed, fully referenced and totally plausible account of all that's happened, why it's happened and what will likely happen going forward. An absolute must watch for anyone who wants to know the reality behind the quagmire of lies and propaganda - the bulk of which are coming from the west. Enjoy . . .

The video has at 7:25
There is no evidence that Putin was contemplating, much less intending, to put an end to Ukraine as an independent state and make it part of a greater Russia when he sent his troops into Ukraine on February 24.

Yes, that's absolutely true because Putin didn't consider Ukraine as an an independent state in the firsty place!
In his speech to the Russian nation on Monday, President Vladimir V. Putin buoyed his case for codifying the cleavage of two rebel territories from Ukraine by arguing that the very idea of Ukrainian statehood was a fiction.

Professor Mearsheimer wrote this in 1993.
Russians and Ukrainians have a history of mutual enmity; this hostility, combined with the intermixing of their populations, raises the possibility that war between them could entail Bosnian-style ethnic cleansing and mass murder. This war could produce millions of refugees clamoring at the borders of Western Europe.
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For example, the Russians might decide to reconquer other parts of the former Soviet Union in the midst of a war, or might try to take back some of Eastern Europe.
First, the situation between Ukraine and Russia is ripe for the outbreak of security competition between them. Great powers that share a long and unprotected common border, like that between Russia and Ukraine, often lapse into competition driven by security fears. Russia and Ukraine might overcome this dynamic and learn to live together in harmony, but it would be unusual if they do.
So, his fear of Russia invading Ukraine came true. But it's not Russia's fault, of course.

Not everyone agrees with Mearsheimer's views.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2022/04/11/no-russias-ukraine-invasion-isnt-our-fault
The Kennan-Mearsheimer critique of NATO expansion is America-centric in that it takes as a given that the U.S. was the prime mover of the process and the peoples of eastern Europe lack agency. It assumes that the alliance is a Delian League, with the U.S. dictating policy to satellite states. But all NATO members must agree to accession by any state wishing to join. Why did no existing member veto the expansion proposal if it was just an American conceit? Was it perhaps because they agreed with the concept?
There’s nothing in Putin’s record to suggest that he would have been content with a nonaligned, independent eastern Europe. By 2005, he described the Soviet Union’s fall as “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the twentieth century.” It is telling that he did not say it was World War II, an unsurpassed catastrophe that left up to 27 million Soviet citizens dead, including members of his own family. Human tragedy does not interest him, only loss of status in the game of power politics.


On the lighter side, Russia is calling up the heavy reserves.:)
 
The video has at 7:25


Yes, that's absolutely true because Putin didn't consider Ukraine as an an independent state in the firsty place!


Professor Mearsheimer wrote this in 1993.


So, his fear of Russia invading Ukraine came true. But it's not Russia's fault, of course.

Not everyone agrees with Mearsheimer's views.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2022/04/11/no-russias-ukraine-invasion-isnt-our-fault




On the lighter side, Russia is calling up the heavy reserves.:)
True to form a daft response (not everyone agrees) with a link to the Washington Post. It is sad you haven't been able to dig something out of the BBC that other independent and worthy news broadcaster, to Professor Mearsheimer's analysis and presentation of history, facts and observations.

This is a little like a fly disagreeing with the oncoming path of a driver at 70mph.

Who is John Mearsheimer?
(John Joseph Mearsheimer is an American political scientist and international relations scholar, who belongs to the realist school of thought. He is the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor at the University of Chicago. He has been described as the most influential realist of his generation. Wikipedia)

Who is Rufus Leakey? 🪰

As the old addage goes when Nuclear war starts it'll be all our arses going through our brains as we take the impact of the explosions and fall out from these events should they not de-escalate.
 
True to form a daft response (not everyone agrees) with a link to the Washington Post. It is sad you haven't been able to dig something out of the BBC that other independent and worthy news broadcaster, to Professor Mearsheimer's analysis and presentation of history, facts and observations.

This is a little like a fly disagreeing with the oncoming path of a driver at 70mph.

Who is John Mearsheimer?
(John Joseph Mearsheimer is an American political scientist and international relations scholar, who belongs to the realist school of thought. He is the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor at the University of Chicago. He has been described as the most influential realist of his generation. Wikipedia)

Who is Rufus Leakey? 🪰

As the old addage goes when Nuclear war starts it'll be all our arses going through our brains as we take the impact of the explosions and fall out from these events should they not de-escalate.
it was Washington Monthly, not the Washington Post. They aren't the same.
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Since you wanted something from the BBC, here is the Professor arguing a nuclear-armed Iran will bring stability to the Middle East because "nobody threatens a nuclear armed country" (not an exact quote, but obviously a false assertion given all the threats against Russia, U.S., China, etc.).

When Iran has nuclear weapons, I'm sure they'll stop stirring up trouble in places outside Iran (Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, etc.):rolleyes:. And after Iran detonates one, other countries might want to "keep up with the caliphs" and get nukes themsleves (Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, etc.). Then everything will be stable, until ...
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it was Washington Monthly, not the Washington Post. They aren't the same.
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Since you wanted something from the BBC, here is the Professor arguing a nuclear-armed Iran will bring stability to the Middle East because "nobody threatens a nuclear armed country" (not an exact quote, but obviously a false assertion given all the threats against Russia, U.S., China, etc.).

When Iran has nuclear weapons, I'm sure they'll stop stirring up trouble in places outside Iran (Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, etc.):rolleyes:. And after Iran detonates one, other countries might want to "keep up with the caliphs" and get nukes themsleves (Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, etc.). Then everything will be stable, until ...
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So who started Iran's nuclear project then? Look that one up and get back to us?
 
. . . it was Washington Monthly, not the Washington Post. They aren't the same.
True R_L, but it's funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation which tells us pretty much all we need to know!
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If you're of the view that John Mearsheimer is wrong on all fronts about Putin, along with the numerous and very illustrious people he quoted directly throughout his lecture in support of his thesis, then I presume you subscribe to the mainstream view broadly characterised as 'Zelensky & Ukraine good - Putin & Russia bad'? If so, how do you see the war being resolved?

Can we agree that rightly or wrongly, for better or for worse, the fact is that Ukraine is losing and losing badly, and the longer it goes on then the worse it will be for them? Assuming you agree with this, then would you also accept that the only way to stop Putin in his tracks is for Nato forces to become directly involved? However, if that happens, it's widely accepted that the risk of the conflict turning nuclear becomes very real. Assuming you want to avoid that as much as those of us on this side of the argument, how do you propose to win the war without Nato involvement and without negotiating a peace settlement with Putin?
Tim.
 
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