Ukraine invasion

CavaliereVerde said:
Yes that is the russian propaganda position.
The total destructuion of Mariupol, a city with 500k inhabitants to defeat a single battalion.
This is a stain in russian reputation that will never be canceled, worse than Grozny.
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Here we go again.

14000 deaths is propoganda?

Stopping the payment of pensions is propoganda?

Tolerating a whole FREAKING battalion of football nazi hooligans is propoganda?

That destruction might have been prevented if they fought on open battle fields and forests. Or if they allowed them selves by hopping on those lovely coaches prior to destruction so they could be EXTRACTED out of the city. What clowns! LOL

Stopping RT news transmission is protecting British civilians from propoganda because they are too dumb to make up their own minds.

They all need the BBC to report the news because the BBC is the only news media that accurately reports the news.

Ohhhh pllllllllllllllleasssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.............................. Get real...
 
Atilla said:
Ohhhh pllllllllllllllleasssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.............................. Get real...
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If you think RT and Tass are more real and reliable than BBC keep on with that reality.
Go Putin go, keep on liberating Ukraine from the nazis... :ROFLMAO:
 

Did the U.S. Provoke Russia to Sabotage Nord Stream 2?​

Btl comment by Rich_Smith is bang on the money. In the penultimate sentence, the word 'millions' could probably be replaced with billions:
". . . peaceful democratic Ukraine was unprovokedly [sic] invaded by barbaric Russia in February 22. Those pesky Russians who are in the habit of occupying nuclear plants so that they can shell themselves causing nuclear incident…
Even if US didn’t openly provoke Russia, they (US state in partnership with MIC and big business) definitely have millions of reasons for the war to continue. Europe is weakened by the war and US is making money. Classic."
 
Well, well, the game really is up now.
When the likes of Lord Dannatt, former chief of the general staff in the British army - aka the big boss - says all the things that those of us on my side of the argument have been saying for months, then it's a sure sign that it's time to deal with reality and to dispense with the gung ho fantasies of seeing Putin humiliated and Zelensky regaining lost territory. It ain't gonna happen. As Lord Dannatt rightly says: "Russia is not going to lose this war".

CV - if you want to settle our bet early - silver's pretty cheap right now! ;-)

 
Probably one of the many experts saying that Ukraine would fall in few days.
If he has been saying that for months where is the new stuff? :rolleyes:
 
CavaliereVerde said:
Probably one of the many experts saying that Ukraine would fall in few days.
If he has been saying that for months where is the new stuff? :rolleyes:
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Lord Dannatt does not appear to be a Russian propagandist.
www.dailymail.co.uk

Putin battle plan was doomed to fall apart, says Gen RICHARD DANNATT

GENERAL RICHARD DANNATT: Russian losses are estimated at between 7,000 and 14,000 - that's 15% of the entire invading force - and their 40-mile tank column north of Kyiv had made little to no progress in a month.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
www.telegraph.co.uk

The hard truth: Ukraine has left both the West and Russia reeling

With the conflict entering a stalemate, we are fast approaching the point where negotiations will be the only answer
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
This makes his opinion more credible.

But the real reason might be he's from the future.:)
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Hey guys, I have some frontline news for you.

I think this was mentioned before but a Ukranian building firm in London is down to about 10 peeps now as those who went back to Ukraine were not allowed back out but forced to join the army adn fight.

How crazy is that? You are forced to join the army to fight. If you have 3 kids they let you leave apparently. But if you only have two they don't.

So some Ukrainians whilst they support their country are not happy with Zelensky or these rules. They say it should be voluntary.

The big question is will their voices get heard without an opposition party? No, they sure won't.
 
You have to be available, nobody has been forced to fight and risk their lives.
They call it war and martial law, happens when a neighbor wants to denazify your country.
 
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CavaliereVerde said:
You have to be available, nobody has been forced do fight and risk their lives.
They call it war and martial law, happens when a neighbor wants to denazify your country.
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Well all I can say is these guys were Ukrainian and they weren't happy with Zelensky or the war with Russia.

Why are they not allowed to leave Ukraine then? You go back to visit your family and then end up being stuck there.

They are super builders apparently, good value and do better quality work than others. (y)
 

Update on Russian military operations in Ukraine for August 27, 2022

US to send air defense systems, VAMPIRE laser-guided rockets, Puma UAS and parts for (not additional drones) ScanEagle drones... many of these systems will not reach Ukraine for months if not years.

While the Pentagon is trying to convince Moscow it is in this long-term, the meagre package reveals the US isn't capable of sustaining support for Ukraine in the long-term.
 
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