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Note: The objective of this post is statistical validation and perspective (and, essentially personal notes) - not a game of, 'Now I've Got You, You Son Of A Bitch' - see follow-on post for detail

HEATED Debate: Is Britain Still a Christian Country? Islamic Politicians Are Growing in Number.


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the female guest speaker has a propensity to emotionally charged views that are not consistent with statistical data.
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The claim that 90 percent of people on the UK terror list are Muslim is broadly consistent with some available data, but the exact percentage varies depending on the specific measure used and the time period referenced.
  • Islamist terrorism is consistently identified as the most significant terrorist threat to the UK by volume123. According to the 2023 CONTEST report, Islamist terrorism represented 67% of attacks since 2018, 75% of MI5's caseload, and 64% of those in custody for terrorism-connected offences23.
  • A 2020 report cited by Wikipedia states that of the 43,000 extremists on MI5's watchlist, around nine-tenths (90%) are Islamist extremists3. This figure aligns with the claim regarding the proportion of Muslims on the UK terror watchlist, as "Islamist extremist" in this context refers to individuals motivated by an extreme interpretation of Islam.
  • Data from the UK prison service in 2010 showed that 87% of terrorism-related prisoners in Great Britain identified themselves as Muslim4. More recent Home Office data (up to March 2022) shows that 68% of those arrested for terrorism-related offences identified as Muslim5.
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Summary:
The figure of 90% is accurate for the MI5 watchlist of suspected extremists as of 2020, but the proportion is lower for actual arrests, convictions, and attacks (ranging from about 64% to 87%, depending on the metric and year)543. Islamist extremism remains the dominant terrorist threat by volume in the UK, but not all individuals on the terror list or arrested for terrorism are Muslim, and the percentage varies by measure and over time.

A NOP Research survey broadcast by Channel 4 in August 2006 found that 62% of British Muslims said free speech should not be protected if it offends religious groups15. Specifically, when asked if free speech should be protected even if it offends religious groups, 62% responded "No, it should not"15. Additionally, 68% supported the arrest and prosecution of British people who "insult Islam," and 78% supported punishment for those who published cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed1.

This finding is consistent with other polling data from the mid-2000s, which indicated significant support among British Muslims for legal limits on speech perceived as offensive to Islam15. However, it is important to note that attitudes may have shifted over time, and more recent or broader surveys may yield different results. The cited survey remains one of the most referenced on this specific question.

A 2007 poll by Policy Exchange found that 36% of young British Muslims aged 16 to 24 agreed that apostates—those who leave Islam—should be punished by death8. This statistic has been widely cited in media and public discussions. However, it is important to note:
  • This survey is now nearly two decades old, and no recent, large-scale UK-specific survey has replicated this exact finding.
  • Attitudes may have shifted over time due to generational changes, integration, and broader societal influences.
  • The majority of young UK Muslims did not support the death penalty for apostasy, even in this older poll8.
Context from global surveys: International research, such as Pew Research Center’s studies, shows that support for the death penalty for apostasy varies widely across Muslim-majority countries and is generally much lower in Western countries, including the UK3.

Summary: The claim that "one third of Muslims between 16 and 24 in the UK believe apostates should be put to death" is based on a 2007 survey, which found 36% agreement among young British Muslims at that time8. There is no recent UK data to confirm whether this figure remains accurate today.
 
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Note: The objective of this post is statistical validation and perspective (and, essentially personal notes) - not a game of, 'Now I've Got You, You Son Of A Bitch' - see follow-on post for detail

Now I've Got You, You Son Of A Bitch​

"Now I've Got You, You Son of a Bitch" (NIGYSOB) is a psychological game described in Transactional Analysis (TA) theory - Games People Play. This two-person dynamic involves one player trapping another in a minor infraction to justify disproportionate anger or retaliation, often masking deeper psychological needs14.

Game Dynamics and Roles​

  • Aggressor/Victim Structure: The game features an "Aggressor" (who sets up the trap) and a "Victim" (who commits a perceived injustice). The Aggressor exploits a trivial mistake—real or imagined—to unleash pent-up rage or assert control12.
  • Psychological Payoff: The Aggressor gains a sense of righteous justification while avoiding introspection about their own flaws. The Victim may inadvertently enable the game through defensiveness or counter-accusations14.

Key Characteristics​

  1. Provocation and Overreaction:
    The Aggressor fixates on a minor breach (e.g., a small overcharge on a bill) to escalate conflict far beyond the issue’s significance. This mirrors Berne’s example of a customer berating a plumber over a $4 discrepancy on a $400 job14.
  2. Hidden Motives:
    The Aggressor’s rage often stems from unresolved childhood patterns, such as suppressed anger toward parental figures. The game allows this fury to surface under a "socially defensible" pretext13.
  3. Predictable Outcome:
    Outcomes include mutual resentment, damaged relationships, or the Victim’s surrender (e.g., the plumber withdrawing the charge). The Aggressor "wins" by validating their anger, while the Victim may adopt a "Why Does This Always Happen to Me?" (WAHM) role145.

Real-World Examples​

  • Poker Scenario: A player with an unbeatable hand focuses less on winning than on tormenting the opponent1.
  • Contract Disputes: A client uses a trivial contract violation to attack a service provider’s character14.

Escaping the Game​

  • Adult-to-Adult Communication: Prioritize factual, unemotional dialogue to de-escalate (e.g., "Let’s review the agreed terms")24.
  • Clear Contracts: Define boundaries rigorously to eliminate ambiguities that fuel manipulation25.
  • Self-Awareness: Recognize patterns of seeking injustices to provoke conflict, as Berne notes this often traces to childhood13.
 
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The UK's Prevent programme (anti-radicalisation) was originally created with the primary objective of safeguarding individuals from being drawn into terrorism or supporting terrorist activities. It sought to intervene early and provide support to those deemed vulnerable to radicalisation, operating as one strand of the broader CONTEST counter-terrorism strategy1357.

How Prevent Has Changed:
  • Expansion of Scope: Over time, Prevent's remit has broadened. It now requires a wide range of public institutions—including schools, hospitals, universities, and local councils—to report individuals they suspect might be susceptible to radicalisation, even if those individuals have not committed any crimes46. This has led to concerns about overreach and the potential targeting of ordinary citizens rather than just those with clear links to terrorism.
  • Impact on Free Speech: Civil society organizations, including Amnesty International, have documented cases where Prevent referrals were triggered by the expression of political or religious views, or simply by holding opinions that diverge from mainstream perspectives46. This has created a chilling effect on free speech, with some individuals reporting that they avoid discussing certain topics or expressing dissenting views for fear of being reported46.
  • Concerns About Discrimination: There is evidence that some communities, particularly Muslims, feel disproportionately targeted by Prevent, leading to loss of trust in public institutions and feelings of being unfairly profiled46.
  • Safeguarding vs. Surveillance: While official guidance insists Prevent is not about "spying" on citizens and is intended as a safeguarding measure13, critics argue that the programme's implementation often blurs the line between support and surveillance, especially when referrals are made based on vague or subjective criteria46.
Summary:
While Prevent's stated aim remains the prevention of terrorism, its expansion into broader aspects of public life and reliance on subjective referrals have led to accusations that it now targets average citizens and restricts free speech. These concerns have prompted calls for reform or even abolition of the programme by human rights organizations46.
 
Phylo dude, you are one very sick puppy.

What's with the personal insults?

You really do have your head up your rectum don't you!

You are full of sh!t and hate. You should seek therapy.

Go outside and get some fresh air you poor boy.
 
Phylo dude, you are one very sick puppy.

What's with the personal insults?

You really do have your head up your rectum don't you!

You are full of sh!t and hate. You should seek therapy.

Go outside and get some fresh air you poor boy.
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I respectfully draw attention to the differential between universal commentary to the gallery and particular commentary to the individual.

If Atilla does not like my personal notes, then Atilla should not read what upsets Atilla — it's bad for Atilla's liver." 😎
 
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🥵 🥵 🥵 Feeling the heat, then ?
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