THT's Methods that WIN

[traydar]

Hi

Use the 21st Nov - This is the problem with cycles, they do not come in exact, it came in 159 TD's not the 160!

If you look back up through my posts, I show the next projection window for this cycle which is July time

If the DEC date had been a equal or lower swing low than Nov 21st, then the DEC date might of been the true cycle turn, but it wasn't

Remember cycles aren't gospel all the time - at some point they disappear! Then they come back, its due to the influence of a bigger cycle coming into play - so don't get hooked on them working all the time and remember the bigger cycle due summer-Autumn is NOT the 180TD cycle, its the 4 year cycle low expectation

Also note how the 180TD cycle performed from Nov 21st - I showed the next cycle projection of this cycle in a chart in a prior post, in that chart was a Gann angle, which is a planetary line in real world, that is why the Nov 21st cycle low hasn't done much, price was balancing with time as Gann wrote about - which meant that the up cycle was coming to an end - This type of action WILL occur in the future again and again and again

Whenever you have a cycle turn date close to a Gann angle, its either going up through it, until near the end of influence, where it will be contained by it - which is what happened in dec'25

So what is happening right now, is the bigger 4 yr cycle LOW cycle - HAS to peak/top out to create the cycle low - That is what is happening right in front of our eyes right now - it could be a 123 top or it could be some sort of double top etc - the point being is for the 4 year cycle low to be valid, we HAVE to have a LOW, which is likely to take a few weeks/months to establish

Thank you. That makes sense, and it seems like I was on the right track with a bit of trading common sense. I also appreciate the additional information. This is such a fascinating area.

 

[THT]

Thank you. That makes sense, and it seems like I was on the right track with a bit of trading common sense. I also appreciate the additional information. This is such a fascinating area.

Yeah its amazing

Gann said that Price and Time were the same thing - what he meant was that the planets are converting movements, longitude etc into price levels and also time

and sometimes time becomes price and price time etc

2020 PRICE low level converted as TIME in Trading [TD] and Calendar [CD] days

Not shown is the 2192 Trading Day count - hits in 2028 when we are expecting another LOW point in the market

It all gets confusing having numerous things on your charts - Keep thing simple for your own sanity

If we run those counts out into the future we get the following, which includes some bad and good hits

These charts were taken at the CLOSE Thurs 2nd April 2026, which is why they are not up to date exactly

But you can see the game the market plays

 

[Maximus19]

I've borrowed/lifted these from elsewhere - the key is that they confirm what I've been saying about this years market expectations

Obviously you are responsible for your own research and trading decisions

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this one details the most active daily cycle lengths to form the composite index - this software doesn't do anything for "phasing" but you get the big picture
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From Bravocy?

 

[traydar]

It all gets confusing having numerous things on your charts - Keep thing simple for your own sanity

That's good advice.

With that in mind, if you had to pick one or two cycles that offer the most 'bang for buck' (so to speak), which would you consistently pay attention to? I appreciate that it may be impossible to answer.

Also, if we're anticipating a possible reaction window, how far in advance does price tend to start gravitating towards it? Also, appreciate that there may not be a good answer here.

I'm wondering whether there might be a simple mental shortcut that is 'good enough'.

 

[THT]

From Bravocy?

Time & Price - Not sure where they got them from

 

[THT]

That's good advice.

With that in mind, if you had to pick one or two cycles that offer the most 'bang for buck' (so to speak), which would you consistently pay attention to? I appreciate that it may be impossible to answer.

Also, if we're anticipating a possible reaction window, how far in advance does price tend to start gravitating towards it? Also, appreciate that there may not be a good answer here.

I'm wondering whether there might be a simple mental shortcut that is 'good enough'.

This all depends on time-frame, where the market is within its growth spiral and the market trading - as it differs per market and obviously what you desire out of it all

The bigger the cycle the bigger the move when it works - this is typically the circa 4 year cycle

The fall into the cycle low can be anything, it can come early or late - if its a daily time based cycle such as the 180TD low cycle it is in the few weeks leading up to it

If its something like 2002 or 2009 low expectations, then they have a 2-3 year bear market down into the lows, so the high is 2-3 years before the low

The simple answer is non of this is exact with static cycles, due to the higher dimension price and time operate to and being forced to view on a 2D chart

The 4 year cycle low will have a a couple/few months of falling prices down into it - so if its going to be the summer, we are in the ideal time-zone for a top, if October then we are a little too early, but we are getting close to it all unfolding

Just watch price action - higher highs/lows and lower highs/lows etc - biggest clue things are changing

Price will be under key moving averages, Indicators will be heading south etc

Most markets follow Hurst time based cycles - these are NOT exact, they will vary

 

[marketlord]

Yeah its amazing

Gann said that Price and Time were the same thing - what he meant was that the planets are converting movements, longitude etc into price levels and also time

and sometimes time becomes price and price time etc

2020 PRICE low level converted as TIME in Trading [TD] and Calendar [CD] days

Not shown is the 2192 Trading Day count - hits in 2028 when we are expecting another LOW point in the market

It all gets confusing having numerous things on your charts - Keep thing simple for your own sanity

View attachment 346240

If we run those counts out into the future we get the following, which includes some bad and good hits

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These charts were taken at the CLOSE Thurs 2nd April 2026, which is why they are not up to date exactly

But you can see the game the market plays

Is there a specific Gann course you can recommend for beginners to learn?

 

[THT]

Is there a specific Gann course you can recommend for beginners to learn?

Its a rabbit hole! Be prepared!

Michael Jenkins courses are good, but not exact - He only reveals his Gann secrets in face to face personal meetings at $5k!

The rest of his material is close enough to get by with/from

I would read Gann's own courses too - there's a lot of good advice in them - read his coffee santos and soybean letters as they show you what he was doing with the planets in converting planet longitude into price levels - I showed similar with the SP500 and North Node charts in a post a few posts above

But you don't need to know Gann to succeed - you can easily get by just with normal cycles and understanding market price structure

 

[marketlord]

Its a rabbit hole! Be prepared!

Michael Jenkins courses are good, but not exact - He only reveals his Gann secrets in face to face personal meetings at $5k!

The rest of his material is close enough to get by with/from

I would read Gann's own courses too - there's a lot of good advice in them - read his coffee santos and soybean letters as they show you what he was doing with the planets in converting planet longitude into price levels - I showed similar with the SP500 and North Node charts in a post a few posts above

But you don't need to know Gann to succeed - you can easily get by just with normal cycles and understanding market price structure

http://www.stockcyclesforecast.com/Gann Book.html

Is it this course?

 

[THT]

http://www.stockcyclesforecast.com/Gann Book.html

Is it this course?

Its one of them yes - There's lots of authors on Gann, as all copyright their material, you never get a complete picture from just one course, one author will have something unique, that ties into the work of another author, but as its all copyrighted, those authors never refer to the others - so you have to read everything you can obtain that is out there and piece it all together yourself, which is where most people give up due to the cost and time

Jenkins courses (all of them) all have unique elements to them - but it all depends on how the information fits with you as a person, they may or may not suit your personality or way of understanding

But on the whole Jenkins courses are all pretty good

 

[THT]

Following on from the post above #262 on using the PRICE LOW to work out TIME cycles

you can sometimes do the following - again, this is just to show you the GAMES the markets play with us and the absolute crucial part is - WE NEVER KNOW WHEN this is going to happen!

So we now use a reduced PRICE based on the price low of 2191.86 of 219 points

All we have done is shifted the decimal point

and as you can see by the bright blue price levels - the SP500 has been working out to multiples of 219 points!

Next we can use the 219 number as the base unit to create a Gann Angle [PINK 1 x 1] etc

You will NOT find that this works on every low - it isn't that easy

But it shows you connections between price levels at key turning points and future price levels, angles, connecting points etc

 

[THT]

Sorry, I don't think I posted this here - I doubt many of you trade cotton anyway

This should go much higher

This is right out of Gann's Tunnel Thru The Air - he mentioned certain cotton trades, where he was "CERTAIN" prices would rise/fall etc

and it HAPPENED in FEB this year - see Astro below

• Saturn and Neptune hitting a major aspect [CONJUNCTION]

Now you can plot loads of planets hitting major aspects and nothing comes of it - this is where people get frustrated with Astro

The KEY to this, as Bonnie Lee Hill discovered in 1994 - is WHEN the aspect occurs in the YEAR - If we get Jupiter/Saturn or Uranus making a MAJOR ASPECT [60/90/120/135/150/180/240/270/360/conjunction etc] WITH NEPTUNE between DEC-MARCH of a year

It will create [depends upon the planet making the aspect to Neptune] either DROUGHT, FLOOD or PERFECT weather conditions which obviously affects the production of Cotton that year!

This YEAR we should get a DROUGHT, causing big highs in Cotton due to the weather causing big issues with crop

Also all those 4 year cycles are due too, previously shown for CORN early in the thread

Looks like on the daily chart - people in the "know" have already been buying

PS - from this we can also "predict" when the big Mississippi river will flood - that happens with Uranus/Neptune

 

[traydar]

I can't trade the flood, but cotton I can work with, thanks.

So new highs in S&P. iirc, we are now keeping an eye on May for the potential top. Although there was a late April date too, I believe.

And then summer (July timeframe?) for a potential bounce/low/first leg of a double-bottom/retest in Sept/Oct timeframe. Will be watching with interest to see how it all plays out.

 

[THT]

I can't trade the flood, but cotton I can work with, thanks.

So new highs in S&P. iirc, we are now keeping an eye on May for the potential top. Although there was a late April date too, I believe.

And then summer (July timeframe?) for a potential bounce/low/first leg of a double-bottom/retest in Sept/Oct timeframe. Will be watching with interest to see how it all plays out.

Absolutely - Just watch them play out, its how you learn that we can't predict how far runs will go - Notice the vertical ascent on the SP500, that is impossible to maintain much longer

The options for summer are that both the 4 year and 180TD cycles sync together, if they don't, then we do not know the extent of the up move of the 180TD cycle, it could be totally overridden by the 4 year cycle - which is why I'm focused on the 4 year cycle play

This is the trouble with cycles - when 2 are due it can cause issues trading- when just one is expected, it's a lot more easier planning and trading them

We don't know the extent of any such pullback either - it's usually a half decent pullback, but not always

Main overall SP500 trend is UP until 2034 - means all corrections will be mild to moderate corrections which are eventually recovered and won't last much more than a year at max per correction

All the best

 

[Maximus19]

Following on from the post above #262 on using the PRICE LOW to work out TIME cycles

you can sometimes do the following - again, this is just to show you the GAMES the markets play with us and the absolute crucial part is - WE NEVER KNOW WHEN this is going to happen!

So we now use a reduced PRICE based on the price low of 2191.86 of 219 points

All we have done is shifted the decimal point

and as you can see by the bright blue price levels - the SP500 has been working out to multiples of 219 points!

View attachment 346390

Next we can use the 219 number as the base unit to create a Gann Angle [PINK 1 x 1] etc

View attachment 346392

You will NOT find that this works on every low - it isn't that easy

But it shows you connections between price levels at key turning points and future price levels, angles, connecting points etc

All top and bottom have the same amount of points between them….just my view….thanks to share sometimes the simplest is the best in trading….cheers🙏🙏🙏

 

[THT]

If you've read the blog so far, you will know that I believe that the markets are geometrically PERFECTLY formed and that the planets play a major part in it all

I'm NOT showing the timing - I showed that back in early 2025 which was the cause of the HIGH shown

So you know the drill - you get a low and a high and we run our FIB Retracement tool on it

This one comes out from the 2022 bear market LOW up to the Feb 2025 HIGH as nearly 50%

So the Fibo crew call it a 50% retracement

Was it a 50% retracement though?

I mean if these markets are geometrically perfect - what happened here as it wasn't perfect?

Well if we run the Gann box from the 2023 bear market low point up to the Feb 2025 High point, we get the following..............

Extended angles off the 57.7% & 66.7% levels = CUBE related ratios and a to the POINT accuracy!

This bounce point was also a 180TD cycle low expectation - So we had cycle timing AND quick plunge/crash down onto extended angles

Then the most recent bounce came in from a plain old FIB RATIO!

If you run a Gann box on it from the 2025 low, an extended 44.7% angle comes close, but not perfect on the bounce low - not shown - 44.7% is a ratio of Sq Root 5 which is the diagonal of 2 adjacent Squares

You don't need to do or know all this geometry stuff - All I'm doing is showing you valid reasoning on key market turns, which just would not show up in a random market

Think about the 2025 LOW point - Price is operating INSIDE a CUBE, it tumbles inside the cube, then out of the blue finds a support shelf, which catches its fall EXACTLY, right at key geometry of the cube itself, which becomes a floor from which price then advances on its journey from

I find it amazing, but I am easily pleased