T2W Advisor Title

[Jack o'Clubs]

On the subject of 'Advisors' Sharky, maybe there needs to a bit of thought about the title? When I first logged on and saw several members designated as 'T2W Advisors', I assumed this was some designation of the quality of their advice in their forum postings - ie take advice from this person, they know what they're talking about - especially as the Advisors seemed to be drawn from a heavyweight group of members: TWI, Arbitrageur, Firewalker, etc. This seemed perfectly reasonable given the qualities of the people concerned, but on reading some more threads I saw the title instead referred to their valuable contribution in improving the website. I wonder if the 'Advisor' tag needs revising, simply because a newbie might misintrepret the label as I did, and assume that T2W is giving some backing to the trading calls/advice and general wisdom that these members are offering, which is a potentially troublesome path to be taking...(FSA anyone? )

 

[wasp]

On the subject of 'Advisors' Sharky, maybe there needs to a bit of thought about the title? When I first logged on and saw several members designated as 'T2W Advisors', I assumed this was some designation of the quality of their advice in their forum postings - ie take advice from this person, they know what they're talking about - especially as the Advisors seemed to be drawn from a heavyweight group of members: TWI, Arbitrageur, Firewalker, etc. This seemed perfectly reasonable given the qualities of the people concerned, but on reading some more threads I saw the title instead referred to their valuable contribution in improving the website. I wonder if the 'Advisor' tag needs revising, simply because a newbie might misintrepret the label as I did, and assume that T2W is giving some backing to the trading calls/advice and general wisdom that these members are offering, which is a potentially troublesome path to be taking...(FSA anyone? )

You trying to say we can't trade Jack! :cheesy:

 

[firewalker99]

You trying to say we can't trade Jack! :cheesy:

Always love a good challenge :cheesy:

Personally, I think the word "advisor" is fine, and people should never take real trading advice for anonymous members on a bulletin board.

But I can see where you're coming from. Perhaps "T2W Consultant" sounds better? As a consultant, I'm expecting to get paid though

 

[Sharky]

I think T2W Consultant sounds a bit too formal, perhaps 'Helper' would be better. Certainly we don't want to mislead anyone and to this end we need to make sure that everyone's aware of what these terms - that's something we can definitely work on doing. ie. formal announcement, inclusion in the FAQ, perhaps making the badges clickable or hover over to an explanation of what the term means.

NB (Split these posts and moved them into it's own thread in the T2W Feedback Forum).

 

[Mayfly]

How about Sorcerer‘s Apprentice as a working title? T&C’s and remuneration to be discussed - plenty of scope there for a broadly based and wide ranging discussion, I’d have thought?

Cheers

Mayfly

 

[timsk]

On the subject of 'Advisors' Sharky, maybe there needs to a bit of thought about the title? When I first logged on and saw several members designated as 'T2W Advisors', I assumed this was some designation of the quality of their advice in their forum postings . . .

. . . and then, J.o.C., you saw 'T2W Advisor' tag under my name and, in an flash, you realised just how wrong your first instincts were! :cheesy:
To be honest, I think your point is a very valid one. However, if a newbie contacted me because of my 'Advisor' status and asked my opinion on say, the position size of a (proposed) trade, I would make it very plain that I'm not qualified to comment and point them in the direction of the appropriate forum, K' Lab' article or other T2W resource. Looking at the list of 'T2W Advisors', I'm confident that my fellow colleagues would respond in similar fashion. So, ultimately, I don't think there's too much to worry about. That said, there may be merit in having something very prominent on the site - i.e. the home page - which either explains or directs people to a clear explanation of the different tags and their meanings? That way, said newbie can read a simple statement about 'T2W Advisors' and be very clear what they can and can't offer, as well as the limitations of any advice given. Alternatively, could an icon be added under each advisor's name so that members can click on it and a pop-up window appears with this information, from wherever they happen to be within the site?
Tim.

 

[shadowninja]

Yes, "helper" was what I was going to suggest.

 

[Crap Buddist]

Forum Advisor:idea:

powerfuls & wonderfuls for sure......

 

[trendie]

. . . and then, J.o.C., you saw 'T2W Advisor' tag under my name and, in an flash, you realised just how wrong your first instincts were! :cheesy:
To be honest, I think your point is a very valid one. However, if a newbie contacted me because of my 'Advisor' status and asked my opinion on say, the position size of a (proposed) trade, I would make it very plain that I'm not qualified to comment and point them in the direction of the appropriate forum, K' Lab' article or other T2W resource. Looking at the list of 'T2W Advisors', I'm confident that my fellow colleagues would respond in similar fashion. So, ultimately, I don't think there's too much to worry about. That said, there may be merit in having something very prominent on the site - i.e. the home page - which either explains or directs people to a clear explanation of the different tags and their meanings? That way, said newbie can read a simple statement about 'T2W Advisors' and be very clear what they can and can't offer, as well as the limitations of any advice given. Alternatively, could an icon be added under each advisor's name so that members can click on it and a pop-up window appears with this information, from wherever they happen to be within the site?
Tim.

how about Prefect?

I concur with timsk, Advisor should relate to T2W forums, rather than trading itself.
Most of us have been here a couple of years or so, so have seen and read most of the various topics, from fibs, gann, sup/res and astrology.

I would not advise anyone on a specific trade, as my specific reactions are determinant on my settings, my time-frame, my risk-aversion, my expectations.
Others will have different perspectives.
However, we can point newbies to the best threads and posts.

This is the approach I have taken in the past when I get PMs.

 

[Rhody Trader]

I'm in agreement with those who suggest that Advisor is probably not the best of words to use. It does, to me anyways, imply things which likely should not be implied.

I would take it one step further to inquire as to whether there is any need to do this kind of labelling. I mean I think there could be some value to labelling members in this sort of very visible fashion - maybe something based on years of experience, trading style, etc. - but this Advisor thing seems an awfully big gold star for someone who makes a suggestion to improve the site. Are there not enough suggestions and user feedback posts/PMs already?

 

[0007]

Helpers / advisors at the York rail museum are called "Explainers" - presumably the current T2W advisors are there to explain use of the site etc.

They also wear red t-shirts with "Explainer" printed on them - does this mean our own folk would need specialist avatars?

 

[dbphoenix]

I'm in agreement with those who suggest that Advisor is probably not the best of words to use. It does, to me anyways, imply things which likely should not be implied.

I would take it one step further to inquire as to whether there is any need to do this kind of labelling. I mean I think there could be some value to labelling members in this sort of very visible fashion - maybe something based on years of experience, trading style, etc. - but this Advisor thing seems an awfully big gold star for someone who makes a suggestion to improve the site. Are there not enough suggestions and user feedback posts/PMs already?

Now this is one that I agree with. What is, after all, the point of the label? Are members supposed to contact these "Advisors" for some reason? If so, what? And while we're on the subject, what is accomplished by the "veteran", "legendary" and so on labels supplied to members according to how many posts they've made? I can understand the value of points awarded according to the value of posts (as determined by members) and I can understand the value of icons which identify one as, for example, a vendor. But as for all the other badges, labels, etc, pour quoi?

Db

 

[firewalker99]

Alternatively, could an icon be added under each advisor's name so that members can click on it and a pop-up window appears with this information, from wherever they happen to be within the site?
Tim.

Well I think we've already got a lot of information next to our nickname & avatar. Perhaps just a mouseover hover pop-up?

 

[firewalker99]

I would take it one step further to inquire as to whether there is any need to do this kind of labelling. I mean I think there could be some value to labelling members in this sort of very visible fashion - maybe something based on years of experience, trading style, etc. - but this Advisor thing seems an awfully big gold star for someone who makes a suggestion to improve the site. Are there not enough suggestions and user feedback posts/PMs already?

Personally it doesn't bother me whether I have this label next to my name or not, but it has to be said that people tend to look at you in a different way when they see this (not necessarily in a positive way). Although the Focus Group existed long before we got our labels and none of us suddenly became a different person, we might still be looked at in a different manner.

Just for the record, making the occasional suggestion doesn't make you an advisor. It does require somewhat more time and effort.

Now this is one that I agree with. What is, after all, the point of the label? Are members supposed to contact these "Advisors" for some reason? If so, what? And while we're on the subject, what is accomplished by the "veteran", "legendary" and so on labels supplied to members according to how many posts they've made? I can understand the value of points awarded according to the value of posts (as determined by members) and I can understand the value of icons which identify one as, for example, a vendor. But as for all the other badges, labels, etc, pour quoi?
Db

Perhaps the "legendary", "veteran", etc. should be based on how long the person has been a member of T2W, instead of the number of posts they've made. After all, that's already displayed next to their name. But so is the join date.

 

[timsk]

Well I think we've already got a lot of information next to our nickname & avatar. Perhaps just a mouseover hover pop-up?

Thank you FW, this is exactly what I was trying to suggest!
An elegant and simple soliton that will enable anyone - at anytime - from anywhere within the site - to determine quickly and easily what an 'Advisor' is and, indeed, a 'Moderator', plus any other badges.
Tim.

 

[dbphoenix]

Perhaps the "legendary", "veteran", etc. should be based on how long the person has been a member of T2W, instead of the number of posts they've made. After all, that's already displayed next to their name. But so is the join date.

And if one has been a member for years but has made only a handful of posts? Again, what is the purpose of these labels?

As for the "Advisor" label, if those who are "advisors" are actually members of a focus group, why not just say so? Or provide an icon? Though unless the Feedback Forum is going to be deleted, I still don't see the point. But then my seeing the point is hardly a requirement.

Db

 

[Sharky]

I'll make an announcement later today about the new updated team structure - hopefully this will fully explain what the roles are and quash any concerns.

 

[timm]

Just for the record, making the occasional suggestion doesn't make you an advisor. It does require somewhat more time and effort.

Perhaps "T2W Volunteer" would be appropriate then.

Should we also have a "T2W Addict" label for members who spend too much time here?

 

[Trader333]

Should we also have a "T2W Addict" label for members who spend too much time here?

OK, so I admit that I do some T2W now and again, but I can handle it, honestly. And I can give it up any time I like. I do it for recreational purposes only and I am not like the others who do it and can't give up and whose whole life is governed on when they will get their next T2W fix

 

[firewalker99]

Perhaps "T2W Volunteer" would be appropriate then.

Should we also have a "T2W Addict" label for members who spend too much time here?