Spiriton Media Group

[somshares]

Dave666:

If I'm JG or RB then you must be PM or PM! Come on are you for real? I'm not going to waste my time with this nonsense. You can think what you want. I started this thread to see what was going on and to combine peoples thoughts and see if there was any way to get something out of our SOM investment. I wasn't out to attack anyone special. If you read my posts then you would see that I posted exactly what Paul miller had sent to us. Facts not speculation! Any comments made about Miller or Morton were based on information that both had given. Had I received info from Guchone or Bell then i would have posted it. I think you must be a close friend of Paul and that's OK. Or maybe you are really Paul Morton. I don't know, but stick to the facts. I didn't buy my shares from Guchone or Bell so I'm not as upset with them as you are. I know that Miller promised that certs would be issued out and that he was 90% done with his audit. That my friend, comes from his own writing.The emails I received from the company were from the company, so I would have a beef with the company directors. Makes sense doesn't it? Maybe not to you but I think to most people reading this forum. Miller is still out there trying to solicit money from investors for SOM or Equi8 so you think I'm wrong for letting people know on this forum? You think that's an attack on him? Just facts Dave....just facts.

PB and Anley have been around awhile and have offered their best advise to all of us. They are not rookies. You should listen to them and you'll be a lot wiser. I don't feel i need to defend myself to you from what I've posted in the past and I will not get into a confrontation with you on this forum or any other. Waste of time and serves no purpose. Mugs has given his best input as well. I think we saved a few from losing more money by starting this thread. So, you can say what you'd like. Call me anyone you'd like Paul....whoops I mean Dave! Sorry.....If you have any valid info on SOM, then please post it here. If not, then start another thread. This was meant for SOM shareholders.

Regards,
somshares

 

[pboyles]

Hello Pboyles,

Their strategy makes perfect sense because they managed to channel your thinking only into SOM and Paul Miller (Miller is a pensioner that made a mistake to get involved without having the facts in his hands and just repeating what was said to him facilitating more investors losing their money. He is Comical Ali and should be reported to the FSA).

So yes, the forum did help all of us to stop buying into the scam but it made you focus only on SOM and Paul Miller, diverting you from those who were responsible from the beginning. Did Paul Miller sell you the SOM shares? I don’t think so. Who sold you the shares? I tell you who, ALV Group in Bangkok and Hong Kong managed by Richard Bell and John Guchone.

It is possible that a reputable venture capital brokerage raises finances pre-IPO for a company that is later bankrupt by their own management. In that case the venture capitalist is not guilty or part of the scam. On many ALV statements over the phone I was told that. But PBoyles, read carefully the facts I am listing below:

1) ALV was managed by Guchone and Bell, both having records for securities fraud and scams;

2) ALV did not only sell Spirit on Media, they also sold the SOM investors other companies such as Greenworld Solutions LTD., Siam Pure Gas, ALV and GBS. That is an additional 4 companies to SOM;

3) Those are another 4 companies that were proposed to me by ALV Bangkok. I lost 5,000 as well with GBS, which was owned by Bell-Guchone and the company doesn’t exist anymore. Even the website is gone. I also searched for the other companies and they all mysteriously disappeared with the investor’s money.

Do you see what I mean now? Does this look circumstantial in your opinion?

Well for a start I didnt buy any SOM shares. As for the other information there is zero that hasnt already been published here so nobody was diverted from the fact that Bell and Guchone ran the boiler room scam. Bell was convicted in Australia and Guchone was struck off in the US, all that is well known and was published here long before you even signed up to this site and probably long before you even realised you'd been scammed.

You seem to think that it is unusual for shares you buy from a cold caller to turn out to be a scam. I'm afraid I have news for you, every single 'investment' you made with a company that cold called you was a scam.

 

[10tacle]

The ties between Som and Guchone and Bell are clear.Our group of scammed investors has many evidences.
Dimitri Ceccarelli who sold in Lugano Som worked in Bangkok for Bell and Guchone.
Ceccarelli swapped several scam he sold, raze tv ,alv, microcap,global select portfolio in Som. Why ? Because there is a connection . Why Som choose a former Bell worker,it is no coincidence. Now that Ceccarelli has got 5 legal cases against him in Lugano his mouth is working overtime and it seems he s now blaming the Germans and Robert Perlitz and Mihail Oeffner the two romanians who worked with Falkenhahan in Frankfurt and the rest.Both searched for fraud weapon traffic ,one for murder.https://crji.org/articles.php?id=4085 Perlitz lives coincidentally in Bangkok and knows Schaar and Bell coincidentally.
We are now considering possible ties with the Brington group ,Oasis casino, Casino Cambodia, Victor Chandler,Joseph Birch,a bunch of russian names.
Morton sold alv then som isn t that odd?
Now that the ship is sinking they all blame each other...
Maybe Bell and Guchone are not directly implicated,Falkenhan Schaar and the rest tryed to copy the thai winning system in Europe.

We are sorry we cannot ,for the moment, make public many fake papers signed by Udo Schaar . But believe us it is incredible what the king of liars has done.
We ll write to the uk embassy in hk ...but please start penal cases in England too we ll provide you all the available material...with the greatest plesure .

Regards .stay tuned the best is yet to come



Their strategy makes perfect sense because they managed to channel your thinking only into SOM and Paul Miller (Miller is a pensioner that made a mistake to get involved without having the facts in his hands and just repeating what was said to him facilitating more investors losing their money. He is Comical Ali and should be reported to the FSA).

So yes, the forum did help all of us to stop buying into the scam but it made you focus only on SOM and Paul Miller, diverting you from those who were responsible from the beginning. Did Paul Miller sell you the SOM shares? I don’t think so. Who sold you the shares? I tell you who, ALV Group in Bangkok and Hong Kong managed by Richard Bell and John Guchone.

It is possible that a reputable venture capital brokerage raises finances pre-IPO for a company that is later bankrupt by their own management. In that case the venture capitalist is not guilty or part of the scam. On many ALV statements over the phone I was told that. But PBoyles, read carefully the facts I am listing below:

1) ALV was managed by Guchone and Bell, both having records for securities fraud and scams;

2) ALV did not only sell Spirit on Media, they also sold the SOM investors other companies such as Greenworld Solutions LTD., Siam Pure Gas, ALV and GBS. That is an additional 4 companies to SOM;

3) Those are another 4 companies that were proposed to me by ALV Bangkok. I lost 5,000 as well with GBS, which was owned by Bell-Guchone and the company doesn’t exist anymore. Even the website is gone. I also searched for the other companies and they all mysteriously disappeared with the investor’s money.

Do you see what I mean now? Does this look circumstantial in your opinion?[/QUOTE]

 

[somshares]

PBoyles:

I promised myself not to get into a tiff with this guy who says his name is Dave but I broke my promise a little. Anyways, I re-read his last couple posts and I find it amazing the attack he has on me. Sounds more like revenge than anything else. Maybe i ruffled some feathers but I've tried to post facts and not just opinions. I don't have to explain to you, you already know. So, I'll leave it as is.

He seems to defend Paul Miller even after he states that Miller went to visit SOM and was offered to be a messenger??? his wordsMiller went with other investors to visit Spirit on Media after the police arrested Guchone and Bell. He was then offered to be a messenger on behalf of the investors, as an investor. Now don’t get me wrong, he was careless to undertake this task and got himself into trouble.)

I guess I'm wrong to mention Miller's name even though he was the one who sent everyone letters saying how great things were with the company and they should buy more and they would be making 1000's of %. I don't think carelessness is a good defense.

After all, his resume says he worked on a ship for many years and a boat captain doesn't tell all the passengers to go down with the ship. Or do they? Was he getting paid to say those things? I don't know. If this was a scam from the start, then it was damned good. Even to the fact that PM and others went to Germany and had more contact with the directors than anyone else with info flowing through Paul to the other investors. So I guess we shouldn't talk about Paul. or should we?

I've written this thing off as a loss and I recommend that most of you do too. Was I wrong to post the info recently on Miller raising more money from the SOM investors? Does that make me an attacker on Miller? Does that make me Guchon or Bell? I think I did the right thing to post the info on this thread. I'm sure there are those that appreciate it too.

Regards,
somshares

 

[Dave666]

To 10tacle,

I have spent the last six months researching all possible ties and links, including the people you’ve mentioned outside Guchone and Bell, also the companies you’ve named. I did not want to make it public on this blog because I don’t have hard evidence on the people outside Guchone and Bell.

I am a very analytical person and I’ve done a lot of research. I agree fully with your findings 10tacle that all the people you mention in your postings are the Grand Architects of the Spirit On Media and many previous scams.

Finally I find somebody that can see the bigger picture.

 

[pboyles]

I am a very analytical person and I’ve done a lot of research..

No offence Dave but your analytical skills are nothing special, you were stitched up several times by a boiler room. What analysis did you do before sending them your money, the point at which analysis actually mattered?

 

[Dave666]

PBoyles,

I got scammed a few times but in other investments I made money. In the overall picture I did not lose, I actually made a small profit. My point is that it is a matter of principals, not money. And I am very analytical whether you believe it or not. At least I was able to see what Somshares is playing in such a short time in this blog. You should start opening your mind and acknowledging what people like 10tacle are telling you because they have the right information. All the people 10tacle mentioned are the real scammers behind Spirit on Media. You seem like a very nice guy from your postings and believe me when I tell you that 10tacle is the only person in this blog who knows the truth.

On a personal level, I got scammed once with Raze TV, twice with SOM, once with Renato and once with GBS. I made another investment last year (10,000 GBP) and I made a return of a 115% and the money is in my bank. I got my money back to compensate for what the scammers like Bell and Guchone got out of me.

Again if you apply logic, you will see that 10tacle is giving everybody on this blog detailed information instead of a personal opinion.

 

[mugsgame]

Dave666; Pboyles; 10tacle; SOMSHARES

Hi Guys

The Scam and it's history are well documented on this blog and others, however the link between Raze TV/SOM and JG & RB/ALV Group was one of mutual consent in that JG & RB persuaded the SOM directors to allow them to push Raze TV/SOM to the public. Now at some point €1-2million went missing, in that the number of Shares sold and the money paid by JG & RB to SOM differed. This was the case as when I contacted SOM about my share Certs!! They had no record of me!! Once i proved to them that i had actually paid money to ALV I was then told my share allocation was now registered. I never invested a penny more from that date as I, after the horse had bolted, I shut the stable door and started doing my 'analysis'.

All this smells big time. And unfortunately the UK police are not really interested in this! Why I do not know??? However Dave666 if you can get a UK crime number with the evidence you have, everyone who has invested on this forum will gladly contact the police on this crime number and put our weight behind the cause!! Also, I Know other people who have invested and are not even on the listings!

I can say for certain SOMSHARES is not JG or RB. If he is I have his name and address in the UK to go round and there with the Boyz!!!!
However as they jumped bail from the UK, i'd just send the police!!!

Can we stop with the mud throwing Dave666 and SOMSHARES you have nothing to be sorry for; YOU started this blog and for that we are all thankful. PBOYLES; as always thank you for all your help, please keep it up!

United we stand, divided we fall!!! I hope all this is so we can stand United!!!!

Cheers

Mugs

 

[Dave666]

Hi Mugs,

I am glad you see my point with regards to Bell and Guchone in Bangkok. You made a good observation when you say that we have to focus on those responsible for stealing our money. You seem to have a good knowledge of the overall Spirit on Media scam, therefore if you have seen the last posting from 10tacle you’ll see it brings up additional names to that of Bell and Guchone as Dimitri Ceccarelli is cooperating with the police. Based on my knowledge of the case Ceccarelli’s report is correct and Bell, Guchone, Perlitz, Shaar and Dieter are the people who set up the entire Spirit on Media fraud and they are the ones that should be prosecuted.

As you know when Guchone and Bell where arrested in London in July 2008, Spirit on Media was a registered company. Therefore the police did not have enough evidence to detain them. I am sure that you agree that if they were to be arrested today it would be a very different story because now the fact that a very serious financial crime has been committed is beyond reasonable doubt.

Most of these scammers are residing in Bangkok and you can find pictures of Paul Richard Bell and John Victor Guchone smiling for the cameras at the Amcham parties in Bangkok. I bet Ceccarelli is not smiling so much now! In my opinion, 10tacle is so far one of the most successful members of this blog in finding real information about the SOM scam.

With regards to Paul Miller, he made the big mistake to get involve and to act as a broker on behalf of Spirit on Media and for this he should be reported to the FSA. However, Miller was a messenger relaying the press releases and statements that Spirit on Media was making. All I am saying is he should pay the price for his stupidity but the people who should do time for fraud are the ones mentioned by 10tacle. Miller was playing a minor role in this SOM charade and is not clear if he actually knew that SOM’s statements were false or not. The ones that profit the most and that masterminded the whole thing are the ones we should be looking at. We all know who they are.

 

[somshares]

Hello Everyone,

Just wondering if anyone has heard anything from the liquidators? It's been a long time and haven't got any feedback from them.

Thanks,
Somshares

 

[mugsgame]

Hello Everyone,

Just wondering if anyone has heard anything from the liquidators? It's been a long time and haven't got any feedback from them.

Thanks,
Somshares

Hi SOMSHARES

I've not heard anything either! In fact very quite on that front for a long time!!

Cheers

Mugs

 

[anley]

Guys, you're waiting for nothing.

The liquidator is not going to say to shareholders they're going to receive 10p in the pound or something like that. The 'company' has been a sham for years, it was only kept alive in order to scam people, that WAS its sole role.

So whether the liquidator is hard at work or whether he's done nothing, it doesn't matter, there is never going to be any money coming the shareholders way.

And if any Germans are reading this, please understand you've been scammed, and will continue to be scammed if you continue to believe you haven't been scammed..............

 

[Dave666]

Guys, you're waiting for nothing.

The liquidator is not going to say to shareholders they're going to receive 10p in the pound or something like that. The 'company' has been a sham for years, it was only kept alive in order to scam people, that WAS its sole role.

So whether the liquidator is hard at work or whether he's done nothing, it doesn't matter, there is never going to be any money coming the shareholders way.

And if any Germans are reading this, please understand you've been scammed, and will continue to be scammed if you continue to believe you haven't been scammed..............

I agree with you 100%. Not only SOM but all the companies sold by ALV Group and Aberdeen Limited in Bangkok have disappeared in thin air. There is no point hearing from a liquidator when there is nothing to liquidate except a wooden house (the SOM studio in Neu-Isenburg) that probably doesn’t even belong to Spirit On Media. I’ve been talking to the police recently and I had a good conversation with a P.C. working in connection with Operation Archway and they seem to be determined to continue investigating the Spirit On Media scam. In my opinion, the best thing we can do at this stage is to stop waiting for a miracle to happen and assist the police in their investigation in order to seize the assets that were bought with our money and also to charge the people in Bangkok and Germany with this fraud.

 

[mugsgame]

I agree with you 100%. Not only SOM but all the companies sold by ALV Group and Aberdeen Limited in Bangkok have disappeared in thin air. There is no point hearing from a liquidator when there is nothing to liquidate except a wooden house (the SOM studio in Neu-Isenburg) that probably doesn’t even belong to Spirit On Media. I’ve been talking to the police recently and I had a good conversation with a P.C. working in connection with Operation Archway and they seem to be determined to continue investigating the Spirit On Media scam. In my opinion, the best thing we can do at this stage is to stop waiting for a miracle to happen and assist the police in their investigation in order to seize the assets that were bought with our money and also to charge the people in Bangkok and Germany with this fraud.

Hi Dave666

So do you have a crime no. we can quote and a number to call please? I have contacted those in charge of Operation Archway before, but got fobbed off??? You can PM me if you don't want to make it public.

Cheers

Mugs

 

[anley]

I’ve been talking to the police recently and I had a good conversation with a P.C. working in connection with Operation Archway and they seem to be determined to continue investigating the Spirit On Media scam.

Oh dear, that doesn't sound like good news for Comical Ali AKA Paul Miller because whilst the main scammers are offshore, he's living here in the UK.

Paul, if you;re reading this don't get too paranoid waiting for that that 'knock at the door' and then the flash of a warrant badge............

 

[pboyles]

...or Tim aka oldoneleg aka 'buy a million more', he's not said much in a long time but checks in here every few days. So the guys that were threatening us with their fake legal action are now going to be subjected to some very real legal action, the irony of it all.

 

[pboyles]

Hi Dave666

So do you have a crime no. we can quote and a number to call please? I have contacted those in charge of Operation Archway before, but got fobbed off??? You can PM me if you don't want to make it public.

Cheers

Mugs

Dave

I suggest you produce the crime number or other information to verify what you are saying about the police report. Otherwise your posts may be seen as an attempt to divert attention away from Miller, Harrod and co in the UK. Just PM the details to Mugs, we can take his word for it. Lets not forget Miller has embarked on another venture and it would be very convenient if everyone's attention was focussed elsewhere.

 

[anley]

...or Tim aka oldoneleg aka 'buy a million more', he's not said much in a long time but checks in here every few days. So the guys that were threatening us with their fake legal action are now going to be subjected to some very real legal action, the irony of it all.

Yes, I remember oneleg telling the doubters of Spiriton how wrong we were. That could of course only mean one thing - HE KNEW WHAT THE COMPANY WAS UP TO AND WAS PART OF THE THEFT/FRAUD.

OneLeg: You're now in the same boat as Comical Ali AKA Paul Miller so make sure you don't lose too much sleep waiting for THAT knock at the door and the flash of a warrant card. It's coming.........

And like the conman MIller, OneLeg is too stupid not to base himself outside of the UK, that means BOTH of them will be the first to be hauled in. What will the neighors think!

Miller will no doubt have financial problems as well. First he's lost money on Spiriton, now he's going to have to pay for plenty of legal advice. Ouuch, that doesn't come cheap these days

 

[jgumbs]

Hey New Traders,

Im just about to get started with all this and wondered if anyone here is from london UK or surrounding areas. I'm going to a seminar on monday 14th in london, i think around 250 people and would be great to network with some new peeps there. I'm totally new to trading and after my last seminar with Learn The Edge i got some great contacts and insights... worth a look and please let me know if your attending, would be great to talk around ideas and thoughs.

Justin

 

[pboyles]

Hey New Traders,

Im just about to get started with all this and wondered if anyone here is from london UK or surrounding areas. I'm going to a seminar on monday 14th in london, i think around 250 people and would be great to network with some new peeps there. I'm totally new to trading and after my last seminar with Learn The Edge i got some great contacts and insights... worth a look and please let me know if your attending, would be great to talk around ideas and thoughs.

Justin

What seminar is that? You do realise that these people running seminars are mostly out to scam you with worthless training.