Pure Pip Producer : style and expectations

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Year 2018 vs. Year 2020

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The Volatlity Breakout dependence is like the Trend dependence, is like the Breakout dependence, is like the Technical Signal dependence, is like the Range dependence, is like the Indicator signal dependence, is like, is like, is like...

These kind of trading approaches (99.99% of the trading strategies) cannot have positive results on equal periods of time.

That’s really stupid because actually, the even definition of the word « Consistency » is to have positive results on equal periods of time.

Only a trader who has found how to extract himself from the dependence of a signal to enter in the market can have positive results on equal periods of time.

I don’t know in which language and how many time i will have to write this... 🙄
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So, i did it right now.

In june 2020 the problem has been solved. Then we had a lot of private tests and we finally started the trading account on july 17th, 2020.

Since that day and until the next trading day we should probably operate (the first working day of november), there is exactly 107 days.

Number of days past by the Equity Curve in Drawdown during these 107 days : -21 days

Number of days past by the Equity Curve at the High Water Mark during these 107 days : +86 days

Time Drawdown Scoring : +65

I'm watching only this. To maintain that score positive. Independently of what all the traders/investors think.

I am aware that it flays the buttocks of some.

But I don't give a fuck, actually...🤷🏻‍♂️

Update of this incredible Challenge ! (The hardest i have in trading.. so much harder than to be positive every quarter!)

Remember, the goal is to maintain this number of days positive. That's very hard. But i like hard Challenges... in order to write the History.

Since that day and until the next trading day we should probably operate (the first working day of december), we have 29 days to add to the 107 days...

So, we are now at 136 days since inception of the Real Pure Pip Production on the FCA Adjusted Risk Darwin/Darwinex Brokerage.

On these 29 days, we have past only 3 days at the Top of the Equity Curve and 26 days in Time Drawdown.

The update is now :

Number of days past by the Equity Curve in Drawdown during these 136 days : -47 days

Number of days past by the Equity Curve at the High Water Mark during these 136 days : +89 days

Time Drawdown Scoring : +42 days

Another hard Challenge is coming in a next post, very soon. Thus, i would have 3 Hard Challenges. I mean, you’ll have 3 things to pray everyday to make these things happen 😁

Currently, the positive quarters Challenge is the easiest challenge and the hardest is to maintain a positive Time Drawdown Scoring.

The 3rd Challenge is also very difficult, i would say that its the level of diffilculty is between both.

It’s coming soon. Stay tuned... héhé ;)
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About the last monthly performance (Risk -0.15/Gain +3.04%), i would add that it's about the process, not about the performance.

October 2020 has been a very good month because the Initial Risk taken to generate the performance has been very low (only -0.15%, to produce +3.04% of Pure Alpha Performance).

November 2020 is not so bad as well. The initial Risk taken to generate +1.45% of Alpha Pure Performance has been -0.81%.

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Actually, the -2.43% Drawdown occured after a huge first week of performance +2.60%. That kind of Drawdown is less important. It's just giving back some recent profits.

I have managed very well the US elections... but not so much the Pfizer vaccine announcement... Then, the last trade, we tried to catch a "Positive Black Swan". It didn't work on that time... the day we'll catch it, you will probably understand, that here, it's the Champions' League.

To those who were asking : "But what if Pure Pip Producer starts by losses at the beginning of the month?"

The answer to this question is the following :

It's totally possible to have a month which starts by losses... but the odds of this happening are lower than the odds of having a very low initial risk at the beginning of the month... because 1) i do not trade the markets on the last week of the month and 2) i use the first half of the week to rest and the other half of this week to prepare serenely the beginning of the month.

The game is to have the maximum of the odds from our side, and not to say what will happen or not.

Those who are always in the markets, fighting, haven't all the odds from their side.

Those who operate like we do could also have an initial risk at the beginning of the month lower.

It's just a matter of operate with all the odds from our side.

By "odds" most of the people understand "technical odds"... we aren't in that case. We are in the case of "Physical odds".

Something that systematic traders can not do at all... because even if their brains are rested and fresh, their job is only to repeat a decision they took long time ago, without the possibilty to use their rested and fresh brains...

So, this could be aply only to non-systematic traders.

Stay tuned for the 3rd challenge... one of the previous post gave me the idea about that... it's about something that also doesn't exist at Darwinex.

I've to check again If it's the case. If yes, this 3rd Challenge will be added to the 2 others.

Without all these Challenges, Darwinex trading would be so boring to me... hahahahaa😄😄
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With this post on SYO thread : https://www.trade2win.com/threads/darwin-syo-by-sersansistemas.238503/post-3168103

I've started to alert about this current Drawdown, it was on october 13th, when the Drawdown was around -4%.

Some ppl wrote that i would attack... some others understood that i alerted and also avoided the finally -9% drawdown of the SYO Red October.

The floating quarter was able to avoid 5% of this Drawdown.

So, the only words we could say is : "Thank you"

Now, i would like to show what happened on the Darwin SYO underlied trading account : https://www.darwinex.com/fr/account/D.51735

-25% in one month.jpg

-25% in 1 month !

So, please, don't come to say that's a good trading strategy... Nobody would believe it.
Fortunately, the Darwinex Risk Manager Algorithm did a great job... and has transformed the -25% into a -9%.​
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do you think i can maintain a DD at zero? 😂😂 what a joke... who could do that?

Recently, it seems that some ppl here, were shocked when i was at -2% Drawdown... like if i would never be in Drawdown 😂😂

We all know that to maintain a Drawdown at zero is strictly impossible...

But, are we really totally sure about that? 🤔

If a trader on Earth could meet this Challenge, don’t you think only Pure Pip Producer could be enough ambitious to do it?


So, here is the 3rd Challenge : Maintaining the Drawdown at Zero on the Darwin underlying trading account.

It is currently at -0.32%


This Challenge will be lost if it become more than -0.99%.

So we have now 3 huge high level Challenges strictly impossible to maintain for the common super traders, right?

1- All the Quarters Positive

2- The Time Drawdown Scoring Positive

3- The Max Drawdown at Zero

I think now you have enough Challenges to understand...

... to understand the Level i’m speaking.

You have now 3 lucks more to come to tell me i failed...

Lucky you!

I hope some smart ppl here understand why i push the level so high...

« One any given day, week, or month... »

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I sometimes double-check the info about the brokers I use, just to see if there's any update.
This is what I found on the FCA register this morning regarding Darwinex:

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They just registered 2 new companies, right after shutting down the forum.
I hope this is not (again) bad news...
Probably, one of these company is for the Private Label ? 🤔

Because, it could be difficult to put in the same basket, the normal Darwins and the Private Label Darwins...

I bet on it...

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The Mean Drawdown did it again! It past from -2.43% to -2.39%

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As we can see on this pic, the "Darwinex New Mean Drawdown" (it's like a Daily Drawdown Average) was, once again, reduced by this new way to calculate. Unless i'm mistaken, i do not see some others Darwins this happens...

It has become exactly the same of the Max Drawdown!

Soon, will it become better? 🤔
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I think it's a slippery slope that can lead a person to start looking for their dopamine kick instead of real profits. It is the ideal system for the way the brain works with addictions, such as pulling a lever on a slot machine.

Mark Douglas in "Trading in the Zone" call it : the dependence on random gains.

This is a major problem to be resolved. It took me 7 years (365/24/7 non-stop thinking) but you are right, it could have taken me 20 years if i didn't take the risk to lost all my life to achieve this level.

To solve that kind of problem, we must take the kind of risk we can not take if we have a job, a wife, children.. etc.. Because, it's something really deeply rooted. It comes from chilhood.

Modify this part of the mental structure is highly risky... and even if we want to modify it, in order to achieve the highest level possible in trading, not so much ppl have the time to do it, because of work, wife, children... normal life.

But it works... Clearly, it works.
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In the same time, the Real Pure Pip Production applied on the trading account underlied to the Darwin PDC, has still the exact same Equity Curve :

It is the same Equity Curve because it's only pips that are extracted from the market without using any artifice.

So, the Darwinex algorithm can apply its own Money Management, without any distortion.

Actually, everybody could apply his own Money Management, if he had an access to the Pure Pip Production.

For example, those who would like only 10% per year could apply their own Money Management on a this Pure Pip Production.

Those who want 100% per year could also apply their own Money Mangement, if they had an access to the Pure Pip Production.


Because, it's PURE... and as it's PURE, we can apply the Money Management we want... Like an à-la-carte service.

The level of the Global Concept i'm speaking will slowly infuse your understanding, don't worry.
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I respect guys like you (not like), out of the ordinary and with a clear personality. Though I disagre with your views and style on many of your posts. Anyway, I would like to know what your view is on the declince in AUM
on your Darwin? Honest and objective not subjective please. Why do you think Investors have withdrawn their funds?

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Hi @Sterso7,

The decline of funds invests has nothing to do with the quality of the trading... it is correlated to the filters « hot » and « trending ».

When you obtain the filter « hot » it brings you around 10k of traders/investors who trade only Darwins with this filter. It’s their strategy.

When this happens, the next logical step is to obtain the filter « trending », because a lot of these investors/traders come. So, it’s around 7/8k more.

It’s like a virtuous circle.

Actually, the real investors (long term) are currently around 7/8k on the Darwin PDC. There is even still one who entered at the price of the inception : $112.45

Edit : Others was short-term traders. For example, one put 10k during the 2 weeks of inactivity.. after 2 weeks, he withdrew the 10k just before november 1st. Probably a guy who doesn’t read this forum and who didn’t know we stopped trading to make our Equity Curve draw « High-Plateaus ».

But you gave me an idea! We can probably give the information about the amount lost and the amount won by the investors on the Darwin PDC... every month or quarter, why not? and make the balance between win/loss! 👍🏼

(Yes, believe me, even with the kind of Equity Curve we have, there is some investors/traders who are able to lose money 😅😅)
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