I Learned a Huge Lesson Today

kwickwool

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Yea, can be chewed up and spat out by this game in a very short period. It is the game for the very best and only the very best survive. The hardest way to make a very easy living.
 

montmorencyt2w

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Had one MOAFLs this year, and a few others I would definitely have preferred not to have. Most of it was the house's money, but that's small consolation.


The curious thing is, I got to a point where I knew it was going to happen, and I couldn't stop it, and I was kind of ready for it and unemotional about it. A bit numb afterwards, but there was no pulse racing, etc.

And it's been the same on subsequent losses.

I still want to avoid unnecessary losses of course, but it means at least I can take small losses in my stride and have no problem about taking them in order to avoid larger losses later. So I guess that's the most important lesson, although there were others.
 

shadowninja

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So far as you stick to fines, it's OK (up to 12 points).

Good to avoid a serious crash (injuries, write off etc.)
If we compare it to fines, you have 12 points much like you have an account of size X. Once you've lost it, you're out of the game... but after a while the points get nullified, I understand and, similarly, you can earn your money back in the 9 to 5. :)
 

meanreversion

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Sangfroid, it's funny how you say you haven't been getting any signals.. I traded on Friday, was the first trade in nearly two weeks. Maybe we're trading a similar system :)
 

Sang Froid

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Sangfroid, it's funny how you say you haven't been getting any signals.. I traded on Friday, was the first trade in nearly two weeks. Maybe we're trading a similar system :)
Interesting you should say that Mean,

I actually only had two 'real' signals all week which came on Friday, one on Cable the other on Euro, however oweing to the week I had I didn't take them.
 

meanreversion

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Yikes, I never skip a signal.. I'm surprised you do, with such low frequency? But don't get me wrong, I'm not one of these "never change your plan" fundamentalists. I started off with a trading plan and have modified it along the way. It's impossible to know everything at the start!
 

montmorencyt2w

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Yikes, I never skip a signal.. I'm surprised you do, with such low frequency? But don't get me wrong, I'm not one of these "never change your plan" fundamentalists. I started off with a trading plan and have modified it along the way. It's impossible to know everything at the start!
Interesting; there are those who say never ever skip a signal, and there are those who wait until everything is absolutely 110% perfect and even then don't take it if the feeling in their water isn't quite right. Just different approaches I guess; not right or wrong.
 

Sang Froid

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Interesting; there are those who say never ever skip a signal, and there are those who wait until everything is absolutely 110% perfect and even then don't take it if the feeling in their water isn't quite right. Just different approaches I guess; not right or wrong.
Exactly. The reason I didn't take the setup on Friday was I felt as though I wasn't in the right frame of mind considering the lucky escape I had had in the week. Not that I would have been revenge trading again but something just didn't 'feel' right.

I agree, although trading shouldn't be emotive I think sometimes you have to trust your gut instinct, this is what makes us human after all and what has kept us alive for the past 100,000 years or so.
 

meanreversion

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Exactly. The reason I didn't take the setup on Friday was I felt as though I wasn't in the right frame of mind considering the lucky escape I had had in the week. Not that I would have been revenge trading again but something just didn't 'feel' right.

I agree, although trading shouldn't be emotive I think sometimes you have to trust your gut instinct, this is what makes us human after all and what has kept us alive for the past 100,000 years or so.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Kind of disagree with this ........ I think it's "gut instincts" that make most traders unprofitable.. I think we are hardwired to suck at trading.

The only caveat I would add is the "panic" scenario. One should never, ever panic, but one also has to recognise when something is fundamentally different and wrong, and the eject button needs to be hit. Doesn't happen very often tho.
 

montmorencyt2w

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Exactly. The reason I didn't take the setup on Friday was I felt as though I wasn't in the right frame of mind considering the lucky escape I had had in the week. Not that I would have been revenge trading again but something just didn't 'feel' right.

I agree, although trading shouldn't be emotive I think sometimes you have to trust your gut instinct, this is what makes us human after all and what has kept us alive for the past 100,000 years or so.
I keep meaning to get Curtis Faith's "Trading Instincts" (Also known as "Trading from your Gut", in the USA, apparently).
 

bedsit

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Curtis Faith trading from his gut??? Isn't that oxymoronic coming from a Turtle?
Funny you should mention the turtles – I've come across a pattern called 'Turtle Soup':eek:

Maybe Curtis changed his mind (once he tried the soup)
 
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aceofswords

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This is probably more for my benefit than for others, writing things down can clear the mind, but if someone can learn anything from this then at least it's not all in vain.

Over the last six weeks I've been consistently profitable for the first time in my trading history on a live account. In the last four weeks I've made 20% and as my account balance rose so did my confidence. Over the past three years or so I've never really been in this position and as of yet hadn't come across of the emotional side of winning!

Well that nearly came to an end today.

I will honestly admit I became cocky, too cocksure for my own good. I thought to myself that I had cracked trading and I was on the road to riches. I was swiftly brought back down to earth with a bump.



Trading is a "funny old game" and I've found out that you're competeing against yourself more than anything. I've got a strategy that I've been using during this rosey period. It generally gives about four signals a week.

During this time I've had discipline to only follow my strategy, if no signals are there then fine, always tomorrow. I've had patience. Even in losses it didn't affect me because there was always tomorrow and I had faith in the strategy I had written.

All until today. No signals all week. "This is rubbish" I thought to myself, the markets are killing it at the minute. So I tried to force my strategy into giving a signal that wasn't there. Tried tinkering around with it. Instead of waiting for the setup I tried to adjust it so it would GIVE ME a signal to enter.

All my discipline had gone out the window. I entered two positions and lost on them both... and rightly so. I needed to trade, no trades all week so I pushed it. Then I did the WORST thing you can do, and something I thought I'd learned from. I revenge traded. No signal, no nothing I just went long on the Aussie a complete punt and double my lot size. LUCKILY .. LUCKILY it worked out and I recouped the losses from this morning. LUCKILY.

Any newbies reading this..... if you have a system or a strategy, follow it. Keep your discipline, if it's a slow week then it's a slow week. At least you haven't lost anything, and there's always tomorrow. I'm telling myself this more than anyone else to be honest. I've heard and read this so many times myself, until you actually do it and make the mistake yourself you'll never know.
Hi Sang, thank you for posting this!!!! I've just printed it out and its going to be stuck to the inside front cover of my Trading Journal......:idea:
 
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