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Perhaps you should bid for my system then. Magic 8 ball with confirmation coin. Guarantees 30 pips minimum/trade.
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It's here! Closed half for just under 100 pips.
Screw it - that's my lot. I'll take this and get some sleep - if it goes up another 100 pips so be it. I'll hang on to cable - finally got out those trades and netted over 100 pips on all of them. Makes up a little for my chf/jpy loss last week but not quite there yet.
Screw it - that's my lot. I'll take this and get some sleep - if it goes up another 100 pips so be it. I'll hang on to cable - finally got out those trades and netted over 100 pips on all of them. Makes up a little for my chf/jpy loss last week but not quite there yet.
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Pippy really didn't have a long term view of the thread :cheesy: We don't care if you short or long to join here
your shorting on EJ looks good but if it's me, I'll take some profits @ around 130.8 and let one position running with BE SL. But that's just me though
Hey CP, closed the trade/stopped out at 13085.
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A bit of volatile movement in the dollar with reports that Gulf states planned to move away from dollar pricing of oil, but now Kuwaiti Oil Minister Sheikh Ahmed Al-Abdullah Al-Sabah said that they have no plans to move away from dollar pricing. Dollar was down on the initial report and gained on the Minister’s report. Saudi Central Bank Governor Muhammad al-Jasser also denied the report providing additional confirmation and confidence.
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Only 2 and a half hours later
hahah holidays!! I`ve just had a Thai massage.. Awesome mate..
By the way... How much are you selling an AK-47?
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hahah holidays!! I`ve just had a Thai massage.. Awesome mate..
By the way... How much are you selling an AK-47?
Was that a proper Thai Massage or a "Thai massage"? I don't sell arms, that's pablo downstairs and he won't sell by the unit. He mainly specialises in RPG launchers, anti-tank/anti-air guns. Occasionally dealing in assault rifles but he tells me it's not so worthwhile as the mark-up is small and you need to sell high volume for it to be worthwhile.
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gold breaks previous top.. now headed higher possibly towards 1100
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first lets see if it can reach 1100
Interesting article on Bloomberg
Hi and regards to all. I would like to use this opportunity to praise this thread (and the forum as a whole) as I have seen a lot of very interesting input so far.
Came across this and as it relates to the subject here and is quite interesting, thought you might also like. Apologies if it is a bit longer
Stuttgart Banker Divining Currencies Is World’s No. 1 (Update1)
2009-10-05 00:42:22.237 GMT
(Updates prices in fourth and seventh paragraphs.)
By Bo Nielsen
Oct. 5 (Bloomberg) -- During the most volatile period for global foreign exchange in more than 15 years, a state-owned bank in southern Germany bested the currency forecasters at the biggest banks and trading firms.
Gernot Griebling, head of bond and economic research at Stuttgart-based Landesbank Baden-Wuerttemberg, and his team of five currency strategists beat competitors at 46 firms to become the most-accurate forecasters for the six quarters ended on June 30, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. They outshone analysts at bigger firms by holding fast to such views as an early call for the dollar’s decline against the euro in the first half of 2008, even when their predictions went against the mainstream.
“Your track record has nothing at all to do with the number of people working for you,” says Griebling, 48, who navigates global currency markets from the glass-and-concrete headquarters of LBBW, a firm with less than a quarter of the employees and less than a third of the assets of its German rival Deutsche Bank AG, the world’s biggest currency trader.
“You have to have the courage to stick to your conviction, to deviate from the consensus view.”
Griebling predicts that the dollar will trade at about
$1.42 per euro until mid-2010 compared with $1.4625 today, as investor concerns over rising U.S. deficits and debt offset optimism about the prospects for an economic recovery.
Ranking Method
The ranking was based on quarterly predictions made at the beginning of both 2008 and 2009 for seven major exchange-rate pairs. Scotia Capital, part of Toronto-based Bank of Nova Scotia, Canada’s third-biggest bank, was second overall, followed by BofA Merrill Lynch Research in New York and Toronto-Dominion Bank’s TD Securities unit in Toronto. Frankfurt-based Deutsche Bank came in fifth, while Zurich-based UBS AG, the second- biggest currency trader, was No. 22.
LBBW prevailed at a time when financial turmoil and an economic slump sparked the most-violent swings for major currencies since at least 1992, as measured by JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s benchmark JPMorgan Volatility Index. The dollar plunged in the first half of 2008, only to rally later in the year as the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. in September froze credit markets and sent investors flocking to the safety of the greenback. The yen rallied in the second half of 2008 as traders reversed risky bets funded in the currency. In 2009, the dollar and yen started out strong against other major currencies and then weakened as central bank actions and $2 trillion spent by governments around the world on fiscal stimulus efforts helped to stabilize the global economy.
‘Spectacular Misses’
The dollar weakened 4.5 percent versus the euro in 2009 through today. The yen also fell 3.6 percent against the European currency to 131.34 yen in the period and was little changed against the dollar at 90.64.
The turbulence made even the top forecasters prone to missing the mark: The average margin of error of the 10 top- ranked firms was 6.6 percent compared with 3.5 percent when Bloomberg last ranked currency strategists in 2006, a year characterized by global growth and stable financial markets.
“It was a very difficult time to be a forecaster,” says Daniel Tenengauzer, head of global foreign exchange strategy at BofA Merrill Lynch in New York. “We had some spectacular successes and some spectacular misses.”
Tenengauzer, 41, predicts that the dollar will weaken to $1.50 per euro by year-end and then strengthen to $1.28 by the end of 2010 as the Federal Reserve begins a series of rate increases to keep inflation in check.
Discerning the Trend
While no one foresaw the scale of last year’s market moves, some forecasters, such as Griebling’s team at LBBW, were able to correctly discern the broad trends that guided currencies.
As 2008 began, the U.S. dollar was strengthening against the euro. The dollar was $1.4592 per euro on Jan. 1, 2008, compared with $1.4967 per euro on Nov. 23, 2007, its weakest ever. A Bloomberg survey of 43 forecasters published on Dec. 27, 2007, when the euro-dollar rate was $1.4626, showed that analysts expected the dollar to continue strengthening through September 2008. The strategists cited a narrowing deficit in the U.S. current account, which is the broadest measure of trade, and predicted that the threat of inflation would keep the Fed from cutting benchmark rates.
Griebling and his team didn’t share that bullish view. The LBBW forecasters had been tracking the decline in the U.S.
housing market. They predicted that the deepening slump’s impact on consumer spending and growth would be bigger than most market participants expected and would curb the dollar. In 2007, the housing downturn had already triggered $80 billion in writedowns at financial firms, a figure that would grow to more than $1.3 trillion within two years.
Borne Out
“We had been big bears on the U.S. economy and the dollar for a long time,” Griebling says. LBBW predicted that the dollar would strengthen against the euro in the second half of
2008 as the U.S. recession would drag down euro-zone economies.
LBBW’s view was borne out: First, the dollar lost value against major currencies in the first half of 2008, with the greenback touching $1.6038 per euro in mid-July. Then, the U.S.
currency surged in the latter part of the year, reaching $1.2330 per euro in October. The dollar ended 2008 at $1.3971 per euro, not far from Griebling’s year-end forecast of $1.39 per euro.
What LBBW and most other currency forecasters failed to predict was the magnitude of the currency swings and the unprecedented financial turmoil that brought them about.
Not Foreseen
No one foresaw the severity of the deterioration in the U.S.
economy and credit markets in the first half of 2008 that would lead the Fed to cut rates four times between January and April and prompt the government-brokered takeover of Bear Stearns Cos.
by JPMorgan. Nor did anyone foresee Lehman’s September 2008 collapse, the U.S. bailout of insurer American International Group Inc. a month later and the rounds of global rate cuts soon afterward, all of which sent investors stampeding back into the dollar.
LBBW wasn’t immune to the turmoil roiling financial markets.
The bank, predicting a “substantial loss” for 2009, last week said it will shed about 2,500 jobs, or a quarter of its workforce, by 2013 and slash assets by 40 percent as part of a reorganization plan. It posted a loss of 2.1 billion euros in 2008.
Some analysts were thrown off track by the roller-coaster market. Gerry Celaya, chief strategist at Redtower Asset Management, entered 2008 as the biggest dollar bull among strategists in the Bloomberg survey, forecasting a $1.30 euro- dollar rate for June 2008.
Wrong Reasons
Celaya, who placed third overall in the 2006 ranking, slid to number 40 on this year’s list after the U.S. economic rebound he was betting on in 2008 didn’t materialize.
“We were surprised by how consistently bearish people were about the dollar in the first half of 2008,” Celaya, 44, says.
“And when the dollar strength finally came, it was for all the wrong reasons.”
Callum Henderson, Singapore-based global head of currency strategy at Standard Chartered Plc, came closest to predicting the dollar’s swings against the euro. In January 2008, he forecast a euro-dollar rate of $1.49 by March, making him among the biggest dollar bears in the Bloomberg survey. His $1.38 prediction for where it would stand at the end of September was among the most bullish for the U.S. currency.
Past Patterns
In making his forecasts, Henderson says he studied the greenback’s moves during similar periods: 1989 to 1992 and 2002 to 2004. Both times, the dollar weakened as the U.S. economy lost steam before surging against major currencies as recession damped global growth, forcing central banks to cut rates. Those patterns told him the dollar would slump initially in 2008 and then rally.
“As soon as the global credit crisis happened, we knew there was going to be a dollar rally, but no one could have foreseen the speed with which it happened,” says Henderson, 44.
Some market watchers searched for new ways to gauge currency relationships in late 2008 as the flight to quality sent investors pouring into the dollar. Henrik Gullberg, a strategist at Deutsche Bank in London, abandoned his standard forecasting measures and instead looked at weekly data on the amount of dollar reserves being held at the Fed by foreign central banks.
Flight to Quality
Gullberg discovered that from late 2008 through the beginning of 2009, the dollar tended to gain against major currencies when foreign central bank accounts at the Fed rose and vice versa, even though that hadn’t been the case historically.
“We followed safe-haven flows very carefully; there was nothing else driving currency markets,” says Gullberg, 36.
“The only thing that mattered was risk aversion. All other models went out the window.”
The financial turmoil in late 2008 also prompted traders to get out of so-called carry-trade bets, in which they borrowed funds in yen and U.S. dollars at low rates and then invested them in currencies of countries such as Australia, where returns were higher. The Dollar Index, a gauge of the greenback’s performance against the euro, yen, pound, Canadian dollar, Swedish krona and Swiss franc, had its biggest weekly gain since
1992 in October 2008.
“This was a huge structural change,” says Camilla Sutton, director of currency strategy at Scotia Capital in Toronto. “It became pretty clear that the de-leveraging was impacting currencies.”
Revisiting Risk
The period of dollar and yen strength lasted from July 2008 to March 2009, when signs of stability in the global economy persuaded investors to venture back into stocks and bonds denominated in foreign currencies.
As of mid-September, most of the top forecasters predicted that the dollar would weaken at least through the middle of next year amid rising U.S. deficits and debt, and that investors would gravitate to more attractive investment opportunities elsewhere.
Sutton, 38, sees the greenback losing value as the U.S.
Treasury swamps the market with bonds to fund $12.8 trillion in pledges to prop up the economy. The euro-dollar rate will return to $1.60 and the dollar will fall to 85 yen by the end of 2010, she says. Standard Chartered forecasts the dollar at $1.58 by the end of next year.
Deutsche Bank’s Gullberg says the correlation between central bank reserves and the dollar has been broken as stability returned. Now, using models that look at traditional gauges such as interest rates, he foresees declines in the dollar to as low as $1.60 per euro by year-end as investors seek out higher-yielding assets in other currencies, and as the Fed resists raising rates anytime soon to ward off the threat of inflation.
“Dollar strength is dependent on an aggressive Fed, and so far there has been very little sign of that,” Gullberg says.
Hi and regards to all. I would like to use this opportunity to praise this thread (and the forum as a whole) as I have seen a lot of very interesting input so far.
Came across this and as it relates to the subject here and is quite interesting, thought you might also like. Apologies if it is a bit longer
Stuttgart Banker Divining Currencies Is World’s No. 1 (Update1)
2009-10-05 00:42:22.237 GMT
(Updates prices in fourth and seventh paragraphs.)
By Bo Nielsen
Oct. 5 (Bloomberg) -- During the most volatile period for global foreign exchange in more than 15 years, a state-owned bank in southern Germany bested the currency forecasters at the biggest banks and trading firms.
Gernot Griebling, head of bond and economic research at Stuttgart-based Landesbank Baden-Wuerttemberg, and his team of five currency strategists beat competitors at 46 firms to become the most-accurate forecasters for the six quarters ended on June 30, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. They outshone analysts at bigger firms by holding fast to such views as an early call for the dollar’s decline against the euro in the first half of 2008, even when their predictions went against the mainstream.
“Your track record has nothing at all to do with the number of people working for you,” says Griebling, 48, who navigates global currency markets from the glass-and-concrete headquarters of LBBW, a firm with less than a quarter of the employees and less than a third of the assets of its German rival Deutsche Bank AG, the world’s biggest currency trader.
“You have to have the courage to stick to your conviction, to deviate from the consensus view.”
Griebling predicts that the dollar will trade at about
$1.42 per euro until mid-2010 compared with $1.4625 today, as investor concerns over rising U.S. deficits and debt offset optimism about the prospects for an economic recovery.
Ranking Method
The ranking was based on quarterly predictions made at the beginning of both 2008 and 2009 for seven major exchange-rate pairs. Scotia Capital, part of Toronto-based Bank of Nova Scotia, Canada’s third-biggest bank, was second overall, followed by BofA Merrill Lynch Research in New York and Toronto-Dominion Bank’s TD Securities unit in Toronto. Frankfurt-based Deutsche Bank came in fifth, while Zurich-based UBS AG, the second- biggest currency trader, was No. 22.
LBBW prevailed at a time when financial turmoil and an economic slump sparked the most-violent swings for major currencies since at least 1992, as measured by JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s benchmark JPMorgan Volatility Index. The dollar plunged in the first half of 2008, only to rally later in the year as the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. in September froze credit markets and sent investors flocking to the safety of the greenback. The yen rallied in the second half of 2008 as traders reversed risky bets funded in the currency. In 2009, the dollar and yen started out strong against other major currencies and then weakened as central bank actions and $2 trillion spent by governments around the world on fiscal stimulus efforts helped to stabilize the global economy.
‘Spectacular Misses’
The dollar weakened 4.5 percent versus the euro in 2009 through today. The yen also fell 3.6 percent against the European currency to 131.34 yen in the period and was little changed against the dollar at 90.64.
The turbulence made even the top forecasters prone to missing the mark: The average margin of error of the 10 top- ranked firms was 6.6 percent compared with 3.5 percent when Bloomberg last ranked currency strategists in 2006, a year characterized by global growth and stable financial markets.
“It was a very difficult time to be a forecaster,” says Daniel Tenengauzer, head of global foreign exchange strategy at BofA Merrill Lynch in New York. “We had some spectacular successes and some spectacular misses.”
Tenengauzer, 41, predicts that the dollar will weaken to $1.50 per euro by year-end and then strengthen to $1.28 by the end of 2010 as the Federal Reserve begins a series of rate increases to keep inflation in check.
Discerning the Trend
While no one foresaw the scale of last year’s market moves, some forecasters, such as Griebling’s team at LBBW, were able to correctly discern the broad trends that guided currencies.
As 2008 began, the U.S. dollar was strengthening against the euro. The dollar was $1.4592 per euro on Jan. 1, 2008, compared with $1.4967 per euro on Nov. 23, 2007, its weakest ever. A Bloomberg survey of 43 forecasters published on Dec. 27, 2007, when the euro-dollar rate was $1.4626, showed that analysts expected the dollar to continue strengthening through September 2008. The strategists cited a narrowing deficit in the U.S. current account, which is the broadest measure of trade, and predicted that the threat of inflation would keep the Fed from cutting benchmark rates.
Griebling and his team didn’t share that bullish view. The LBBW forecasters had been tracking the decline in the U.S.
housing market. They predicted that the deepening slump’s impact on consumer spending and growth would be bigger than most market participants expected and would curb the dollar. In 2007, the housing downturn had already triggered $80 billion in writedowns at financial firms, a figure that would grow to more than $1.3 trillion within two years.
Borne Out
“We had been big bears on the U.S. economy and the dollar for a long time,” Griebling says. LBBW predicted that the dollar would strengthen against the euro in the second half of
2008 as the U.S. recession would drag down euro-zone economies.
LBBW’s view was borne out: First, the dollar lost value against major currencies in the first half of 2008, with the greenback touching $1.6038 per euro in mid-July. Then, the U.S.
currency surged in the latter part of the year, reaching $1.2330 per euro in October. The dollar ended 2008 at $1.3971 per euro, not far from Griebling’s year-end forecast of $1.39 per euro.
What LBBW and most other currency forecasters failed to predict was the magnitude of the currency swings and the unprecedented financial turmoil that brought them about.
Not Foreseen
No one foresaw the severity of the deterioration in the U.S.
economy and credit markets in the first half of 2008 that would lead the Fed to cut rates four times between January and April and prompt the government-brokered takeover of Bear Stearns Cos.
by JPMorgan. Nor did anyone foresee Lehman’s September 2008 collapse, the U.S. bailout of insurer American International Group Inc. a month later and the rounds of global rate cuts soon afterward, all of which sent investors stampeding back into the dollar.
LBBW wasn’t immune to the turmoil roiling financial markets.
The bank, predicting a “substantial loss” for 2009, last week said it will shed about 2,500 jobs, or a quarter of its workforce, by 2013 and slash assets by 40 percent as part of a reorganization plan. It posted a loss of 2.1 billion euros in 2008.
Some analysts were thrown off track by the roller-coaster market. Gerry Celaya, chief strategist at Redtower Asset Management, entered 2008 as the biggest dollar bull among strategists in the Bloomberg survey, forecasting a $1.30 euro- dollar rate for June 2008.
Wrong Reasons
Celaya, who placed third overall in the 2006 ranking, slid to number 40 on this year’s list after the U.S. economic rebound he was betting on in 2008 didn’t materialize.
“We were surprised by how consistently bearish people were about the dollar in the first half of 2008,” Celaya, 44, says.
“And when the dollar strength finally came, it was for all the wrong reasons.”
Callum Henderson, Singapore-based global head of currency strategy at Standard Chartered Plc, came closest to predicting the dollar’s swings against the euro. In January 2008, he forecast a euro-dollar rate of $1.49 by March, making him among the biggest dollar bears in the Bloomberg survey. His $1.38 prediction for where it would stand at the end of September was among the most bullish for the U.S. currency.
Past Patterns
In making his forecasts, Henderson says he studied the greenback’s moves during similar periods: 1989 to 1992 and 2002 to 2004. Both times, the dollar weakened as the U.S. economy lost steam before surging against major currencies as recession damped global growth, forcing central banks to cut rates. Those patterns told him the dollar would slump initially in 2008 and then rally.
“As soon as the global credit crisis happened, we knew there was going to be a dollar rally, but no one could have foreseen the speed with which it happened,” says Henderson, 44.
Some market watchers searched for new ways to gauge currency relationships in late 2008 as the flight to quality sent investors pouring into the dollar. Henrik Gullberg, a strategist at Deutsche Bank in London, abandoned his standard forecasting measures and instead looked at weekly data on the amount of dollar reserves being held at the Fed by foreign central banks.
Flight to Quality
Gullberg discovered that from late 2008 through the beginning of 2009, the dollar tended to gain against major currencies when foreign central bank accounts at the Fed rose and vice versa, even though that hadn’t been the case historically.
“We followed safe-haven flows very carefully; there was nothing else driving currency markets,” says Gullberg, 36.
“The only thing that mattered was risk aversion. All other models went out the window.”
The financial turmoil in late 2008 also prompted traders to get out of so-called carry-trade bets, in which they borrowed funds in yen and U.S. dollars at low rates and then invested them in currencies of countries such as Australia, where returns were higher. The Dollar Index, a gauge of the greenback’s performance against the euro, yen, pound, Canadian dollar, Swedish krona and Swiss franc, had its biggest weekly gain since
1992 in October 2008.
“This was a huge structural change,” says Camilla Sutton, director of currency strategy at Scotia Capital in Toronto. “It became pretty clear that the de-leveraging was impacting currencies.”
Revisiting Risk
The period of dollar and yen strength lasted from July 2008 to March 2009, when signs of stability in the global economy persuaded investors to venture back into stocks and bonds denominated in foreign currencies.
As of mid-September, most of the top forecasters predicted that the dollar would weaken at least through the middle of next year amid rising U.S. deficits and debt, and that investors would gravitate to more attractive investment opportunities elsewhere.
Sutton, 38, sees the greenback losing value as the U.S.
Treasury swamps the market with bonds to fund $12.8 trillion in pledges to prop up the economy. The euro-dollar rate will return to $1.60 and the dollar will fall to 85 yen by the end of 2010, she says. Standard Chartered forecasts the dollar at $1.58 by the end of next year.
Deutsche Bank’s Gullberg says the correlation between central bank reserves and the dollar has been broken as stability returned. Now, using models that look at traditional gauges such as interest rates, he foresees declines in the dollar to as low as $1.60 per euro by year-end as investors seek out higher-yielding assets in other currencies, and as the Fed resists raising rates anytime soon to ward off the threat of inflation.
“Dollar strength is dependent on an aggressive Fed, and so far there has been very little sign of that,” Gullberg says.
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