Do you have an "edge" in your trading?

You got two out of three correct. You choose the two. :D

Perhaps you should read the post.

There's more information in that one post on evaluating market direction than in all of your posts on T2W combined.

Of course, this is not actually saying much. A bit like saying my wife is prettier and smarter than David Beckhams wife - it's not really an achievement.

Hope this helps.
 
:eek::rolleyes::whistle:lol:;)

A lot of it has plenty of practical application. Still, stick with the patented indicator combo if you prefer.

I wouldn’t pay much attention to someone who had to buy the annotated edition but regards themselves an expert on the material. They are most likely the type of trader who thinks “breadcrumbs” are a feast! I wonder if it also came with an accompanying CD that chimes to let you know when to turn the page.:LOL::rolleyes:
 
Of course, this is not actually saying much. A bit like saying my wife is prettier and smarter than David Beckhams wife - it's not really an achievement.

Hope this helps.

Funny analogy, I recall a TV presenter once (long time ago) commenting on the view that Victoria Adams was the prettiest member of the Spice Girls was like saying "Amsterdam is the highest point in Holland". Made me laugh.
 
I wouldn’t pay much attention to someone who had to buy the annotated edition but regards themselves an expert on the material. They are most likely the type of trader who thinks “breadcrumbs” are a feast! I wonder if it also came with an accompanying CD that chimes to let you know when to turn the page.:LOL::rolleyes:

LOL

ffs mate, cba tbh, I'm grabbing pips hoovering up breadcrumbs, kin ell it's not rocket science bud, fook, endex ;).
 
I wouldn’t pay much attention to someone who had to buy the annotated edition but regards themselves an expert on the material. They are most likely the type of trader who thinks “breadcrumbs” are a feast! I wonder if it also came with an accompanying CD that chimes to let you know when to turn the page.:LOL::rolleyes:

Wow your ignorance is quite spectacular, good luck with that, btw, are you off the tablets this time? Helps if we know...bless...
 
Wow your ignorance is quite spectacular, good luck with that, btw, are you off the tablets this time? Helps if we know...bless...

bless...;) forgot about that one. btw cba tbh endex bud ffs.

School us, O "Profitable Trader" , that we may partake of your secret breadcrumb indicators.

kin ell fook etc etc
 
Funny analogy, I recall a TV presenter once (long time ago) commenting on the view that Victoria Adams was the prettiest member of the Spice Girls was like saying "Amsterdam is the highest point in Holland". Made me laugh.

She is prettier than Katie Price according to fibonacci, but that doesn't deserve another metaphoric cliche.
 
Wow your ignorance is quite spectacular, good luck with that, btw, are you off the tablets this time? Helps if we know...bless...

Ffs...cba...tbh!

Three letter abbreviations were commonly used on internet forums in the late 20th to early 21st century. FFS was one of the most common one used as a way of saying “look at your screen and see the obvious you dastardly person!” It is thought to have derived this meaning from “Fringe Field Switching” which was a technology used in the manufacturing of LCD panels circa 2010. These were widely used in visual display terminals for the personal computers of that era which connected people of all walks of life to the internet.

The Council for British Archaeology (CBA) was an educational charity working throughout the UK to involve people in archaeology and to promote the appreciation and care of the historic environment for the benefit of present and future generations. When used in an internet forum it meant "Now look here you Neanderthal man, don't think you can come here looking for any charitable education or anything, be on your way before I teach you a lesson"

Brazilian Telecommunications Corp (Telecomunicacoes Brasileiras SA TELEBRAS) wasn't a very a popular stock traded circa 2010, it's stock code was (TBH). When used in an internet forum it meant, sarcastically, "I think you are as popular as Telecomunicacoes Brasileiras SA TELEBRAS"
 
I have to say, I find it quite disturbing how much unqualified generic advice there is on this thread. Not only that - but there's also the back-patting that goes on with people agreeing with it.

There are many ways to trade, I am sure the HFT boys will have a laugh at "Trade no more than 3 times a day". I think Paul Rotter would laugh at it too. A friend of mine that day trades a fund regularly has 20-30 positions on. Another friend only ever has 1 or 2. Horses for courses. All these generic statements are just regurgitations of what's online. Wouldn't it be nice to back this kind of thing up with a bit more detail?

"Follow the trend" is a very generic statement. Is it given as some sort of panacea? Certainly, the person that wrote it is not day trading the ES. If they were, then they would certainly be losing money. If you trade a market like the ES and you can't trade ranges, then you are going to lose your shirt. Sure - 1 out of 5/6 days is a trend day - Friday was one. More often than not - on the first move to within 5 ticks of the overnight high, you are going to be making a move down before you will move up. The 10th Jan is a lovely example. By 10:00am we were down to the overnight low, it pushed through it 1 point and reversed. From there it moved up to the overnight high and bounced off that into the close. This was the total action for the day. Just one 10 point trading range.

That's the rule, now the exception - yesterday - Friday 14th 2011 , the ES opened down from the prior days close, sold off just one point and then reversed up. I was watching this on the Tape at that point, I could see what happened but sadly, I hesitated. I'd let the market move 6 ticks up and for me, that's too much. So, I kicked myself and passed on the long entry.

There was news at 9:55 and 10:00. The 9:55 news saw a very nice sell off and at that point I got long at 1279, which was 4 ticks away from the bottom of that sell off. The market was erratic, there was a bit of slippage and I was pretty happy with that entry. The plan was to stay in through the 10:00 am news (not as high impact as the 9:55) if we got a big enough move to the upside. At 9:59, I bailed with just 1 point as I didn't think this was enough buffer.

I stayed watching the market for a while after that - but even though looking back, Friday was an 'obvious' trend day, it wasn't that obvious to me at the time. Certainly, the way it kept pushing up, then moving sideways made it less than obvious to me, so I called it a day. Had it been a range day, I'd have expected a move back down at 1284.25. There was a swing high there but nothing to convince me it was going to be significant, so I passed on shorting it.

Of course, I could sit here kicking myself for not taking that first long. In retrospect, chasing that trade would have been beneficial as I'd have been able to scale out and benefit from the trend day. As it is though, I gave myself an "A" grade in my journal for sticking to the plan.

The trend may be your friend but this is very dependent on the type of trading you do and the market you trade. I'd advise taking no generic advice on trading because in my opinion, trading is not a generic skill. You need to specialise.

Do you just stick to ES or do you look at other eminis as well? Personally I find the Dow and Nasdaq, even the Russell actually, so much nicer to trade. Plenty of good trending days where you can sit at break even, maybe trail your stop up (which can start quite tight) and close as you get into the end of the day.

Conventional stuff seems to work very well on them, the simpler the better really - range breakouts, for example the frequent overnight range going into the UK morning, classic reversal PA (if you're very selective), and failed reversal signals, which are my favourite.

ES is so much more choppy, even on trending days, or at least that's my observation. Maybe one day liquidity concerns will force me onto ES :), but for the moment it's very rare that I'll take anything on it.
 
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You need to invent a pithy, rhyming aphorism for day trading ES.

Buy the dip, then you will champagne sip?
Sell the rally, increase your tally???

Don't know about pithy, but ...

Trade the trend, then press send
Trade the trend, for yourself fend ...

Move your stop? Don't be a cøck!

Take profits early, just like a girly

Head and shoulders means reverse
Till it doesn't, then you're in a hease
Head and shoulders means a turn
Till it doesn't, then you're gonna burn

The pinbar special's comin' down the line
The pinbar special's gonna ride on time
You've drawn your levels and you're gonna trade
The trend is bullish, but it's gonna fade
The pinbar special's gonna make you rich
Oh, no, not this time, what a freakin bitch ...
[to the tune of 6-5 Special: ]
http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/adults/rocknroll/sixfivespecial.wav

Doji see, doji do,
bet the house?
that's f***ed you!

Buy the dips?
 
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