Discontinued Socket A 462 CPU wanted

[JTrader]

My motherboard uses a "socket A" 462 CPU.

I want to find a cheap and more powerful "socket A" 462 CPU, such as an AMD athlon XP3000.

You'd think that old discontinued technologies would be £cheap, but the opposite seems to be true on the websites i have found, with older/discontinued CPU's being as expensive as todays CPU's.

Does anyone know of a website that specialises in cheap£ discontinued CPU's?

Many thanks.

 

[timm]

I've got an AMD AthlonXP 2800+ that I don't need. Is that any good to you?

 

[JTrader]

I've got an AMD AthlonXP 2800+ that I don't need. Is that any good to you?

Hi timm

an AMD AthlonXP 2800+ (2.083ghz) would be an improvement over my current AthlonXP 2000 CPU (1.67ghz).
I think the maximum is an athlonXP3200 (around 2.2 ghz) in any case.

Please PM me with details.

Many thanks.

 

[roguetrader]

My motherboard uses a "socket A" 462 CPU.

I want to find a cheap and more powerful "socket A" 462 CPU, such as an AMD athlon XP3000.

You'd think that old discontinued technologies would be £cheap, but the opposite seems to be true on the websites i have found, with older/discontinued CPU's being as expensive as todays CPU's.

Does anyone know of a website that specialises in cheap£ discontinued CPU's?

Many thanks.

http://search.ebay.co.uk/socket-A-4...romZR40QQsatitleZsocketQ20AQ22Q20462Q20CPUQ2e

 

[JTrader]

http://search.ebay.co.uk/socket-A-4...romZR40QQsatitleZsocketQ20AQ22Q20462Q20CPUQ2e

Thanks RT

I had tried ebay and other sites, and this is what i mean, discontinued lines seem more expensive than modern stuff, and they may not even be brand new then !

You'd think there'd be a warehouse full of 'em somewhere, trying to offload the discontinued technologies for 99p each or similar......:idea:

Cheers.

 

[JTrader]

Thanks RT

I had tried ebay and other sites, and this is what i mean, discontinued lines seem more expensive than modern stuff, and they may not even be brand new then !

You'd think there'd be a warehouse full of 'em somewhere, trying to offload the discontinued technologies for 99p each or similar......:idea:

Cheers.

Or perhaps AMD & Intel dispose of most discontinued, but still perfectly useable and relevant CPU's, instead of selling them cheaply, because they want the people to be using the latest technologies, which in turn makes them higher profits, than allowing the people to continue using/buying discontinued CPU's at cheap prices would :idea:

 

[JTrader]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/INTEL-DUAL-CO...213QQihZ013QQcategoryZ179QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

When you look at brand new high spec PC's like this one for example, at such a low price, it does make you question the validity of upgrading an older PC in any way......

 

[roguetrader]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/INTEL-DUAL-CO...213QQihZ013QQcategoryZ179QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

When you look at brand new high spec PC's like this one for example, at such a low price, it does make you question the validity of upgrading an older PC in any way......

It is very interesting, especially when you compare the spc of this computer with, the following Intel comparison of their flagship high end processors
http://compare.intel.com/pcc/showchart.aspx?mmID=891344,890642&familyID=1&culture=en-GB

You will see that the best they claim from their processors is a paltry 3.0GHz, so he would appear to have worked marvels in the overclocking department.

That said I would say that anyone thinking of upgrading components should look closely at the price they are paying and the likely gains, weighed up against the cost of a new machine.

 

[JTrader]

I thought 5.6ghz sounded a lot! - and a big increase over the last 4 years or so!

 

[roguetrader]

I thought 5.6ghz sounded a lot! - and a big increase over the last 4 years or so!

I also wasn't aware that Pentium D's were dual core, although, there are so many variants I wouldn't want to stake my life on that.

One last thing I would say from his advert, he says the RAM is 2Gig, which he interprets in another quote as 2000Meg since there is 1024 meg per gig that would be 2048meg in total. This may sound picky, but if I'm gonna fork out a sizable amount of cash on technology, I want to know that the people who built it know what they are talking about, such as haven't combined components that will conflict.

 

[Lightning McQueen]

hi guys

3.6 GHz looks to be the fastest quoted Pentium D processor clock speed (yes, dual core) I think I know what these guys are doing and thats quoting a doubling of the clock speed, so in effect they have a 2.8 GHz clock speed dual core and saying its a 5.6 GHz, usually I have only seen dual cpu "quad core" pc's quoted like this, but hey, still a cheap pc and far better than anything I could bring to the party, looks the part too.

 

[dcraig1]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/INTEL-DUAL-CO...213QQihZ013QQcategoryZ179QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

When you look at brand new high spec PC's like this one for example, at such a low price, it does make you question the validity of upgrading an older PC in any way......

Indeed. It generally doesn't make a lot of sense to spend money on upgrading older machines - such is a the pace of change. Much better to just write them off over a 3-4 year period and get new kit. It's not just CPU speed, it's things like much better memory/L 2 cache performance, better disk controller performance (Sata II) and so on. Also motherboards and power supplies do not have infinite life expectancy.

I would not consider buying a Pentium D machine. The Intel Core 2 Duo and the dual core AMDs are both much better processors. Faster, lower power and cooler running. At the moment Intel Core 2 Duo has the edge over AMD performance wise, though at the same price point there is probably not a lot in it.

Intel are dropping prices on 22 July. The cheapest Core 2 Duos will be under $100. The Q6600 quad core will be under $300. DDR2 memory is very cheap at the moment. You can buy a very fast box for not a lot of money. The improvement over any Socket A based machine will be dramatic.

Finally if you get a new box, consider getting something with a motherboard based on the new Intel P35 chipset. This fully supports the new Core 2 Duos with 1333 Mhz FSB. At the moment it is the only chipset that does.

 

[JTrader]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATHLON-DUAL-C...638QQihZ007QQcategoryZ179QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Here's another good one for £231.50.
Ok so it may have on board graphics (but 256mb of them), but with 64bit 3800 processor, 2gb DDR2 memory & 250gb hard-drive - its going to be quick!

Personally i don't see a need to jump in & buy the latest OS - for me, bunging the old windows XP home OEM would suffice. But for an extra £65 - you can have windows vista with 64-bit technology.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MICROSOFT-WIN...ryZ11229QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Might need to add an extra graphics cartd for multiple monitor setup, but here you have a very high spec PC & OS for around £300!

 

[roguetrader]

Fortunately I'm not due to upgrade my desktop box until next year at the earliest, but I wouldn't like to go with Vista for while yet, unless on a dual boot setup at least until their service pack release. Still a lot of software that is not Vista compatable out there, though it shouldn't be too long.
I generally find a computer shop, and have them build what I want, costs a little more but I have exactly what I want that way.

 

[rossored]

All the C2D chips above 2.16GHz fly, especially the Core2Duo Extremes. They outperform AMD chips these days, certainly with office applications or equivalent. They also massively outperform any Pentium D you'd throw at it.

Beware of systems which are quoted 'integrated' graphics. These use system memory for video memory (so 1GB DDR2 ends up being 768MB with the display running) and are not suitable for upgrades. You want something with a 128-256MB PCIe graphics card ideally; this will support dual monitors right out of the box (one VGA, one DVI). The motherboard on that AMD system isn't all that great either - thats' why its cheap.

As others have said, avoid Vista right now. Personally I think Vista could end up being another Windows ME (i.e. a disaster) but that's jusy my opinion. SP1 is due out in the second half of '07 which will hopefully fix some of the OS's problems.

 

[gc1]

I suspect one of the reasons those Ebay dealers are selling stock cheap is that Intel are releasing their 45 nM processors by the end of the month (supposedly) - and existing Intel processor chips will be cut in price. So they don't want to be caught with too much stock.

If you are looking for a top of the line new PC it might be an idea to hold off for a few weeks or a month until prices stabilise and 1333 Mhz FSB machines with 45nM processors become the norm.