databases of trading strategies

[Blindman]

Does anyone know of any databases of trading strategies that one can look at that
show historical performances and statistical information.

The larger the better.

 

[tomorton]

There are small collections of strategies scattered across the internet, plus individual ones of course.

But the problem isn't so much finding strategies that can work as it is finding a strategy that suits each individual. The only person who can find the best match is you and you only find that by trying things that don't match and working out what needs to be better.

I recommend grab the first one you find that sounds rational and demo it until you know why it works but more importantly why it doesn't suit you. Then it will be so much easier to find a better fit.

 

[Blindman]

Thanks for the standard almost textbook reply in the trading field.

Your surgestion is almost certain to lead to failure for me and you know it.

 

[tomorton]

Well, at least you can read.

 

[piphoe]

what is that site where everyone places their automated trading strategies...the name eludes me now?

 

[rawrschach]

Thanks for the standard almost textbook reply in the trading field.

Your surgestion is almost certain to lead to failure for me and you know it.

There's a conspiracy in the industry where they all lie to new traders about how you need to actually understand the market and why you're doing what you're doing while the rest of us go to the super secret strategy repository to pick 'strategies' on a whim which can be executed with minimal effort for maximum gain.

 

[Blindman]

There's a conspiracy in the industry where they all lie to new traders about how you need to actually understand the market and why you're doing what you're doing while the rest of us go to the super secret strategy repository to pick 'strategies' on a whim which can be executed with minimal effort for maximum gain.

If I was to pick at ramdon any method as the poster said to me to just take and see if it fits me and see how I got on. It would almost certainly lead to failure.

So where is the definitive guide with proven records as this would be of use.

 

[Blindman]

I don't get why all the sarcasm by posters above for a question about performance in the long term.

 

[FXX]

I think because what you are asking for doesn't exist. If it did it would be a dB full of failed strategies.

 

[Sonicscooter]

Thanks for the standard almost textbook reply in the trading field.

Your surgestion is almost certain to lead to failure for me and you know it.

What a moronic reply to someone who has the decency to be honest with you, if you don't / can't be ar5ed to understand that simple post you are already on the fast track to failure.

 

[tomorton]

I don't get why all the sarcasm by posters above for a question about performance in the long term.

My original reply to your query was the first posted and absolutely no sarcasm intended or justified. I assumed you might be a new trader with a genuine need for knowledge. I only wished to guide you towards the right questions, rather than quick answers to the wrong questions. Maybe I was wrong to assume you had such little or no experience but the intent was genuine and the message contained absolutely genuine. I do believe for a new trader, the intent behind your question is misdirected. Maybe for an experienced trader, there is a deeper objective.... well, I stand ready for this to be demonstrated and then maybe I might learn something also. Still no sarcasm intended.

 

[Blindman]

My point is. You would need a way of extracting money out of the market. for long term success

We all know the figures online about that 90% or so fail inthe long run. Though I am not sure if this is trading in general or just the spot forex market.

So what I am trying to find out is what works in the trading field in the long run.
because either randomly using an online strategy which could have anything from a 99% Drawdown doublling down.
To just ranomly buy and selling as a poster above said due to all methods fail.
Is not going to lead to long term survival.

 

[tomorton]

My point is. You would need a way of extracting money out of the market. for long term success

We all know the figures online about that 90% or so fail inthe long run. Though I am not sure if this is trading in general or just the spot forex market.

So what I am trying to find out is what works in the trading field in the long run.
because either randomly using an online strategy which could have anything from a 99% Drawdown doublling down.
To just ranomly buy and selling as a poster above said due to all methods fail.
Is not going to lead to long term survival.

I did not recommend blind buying and selling. I did not recommend blindly selecting any random strategy: I recommended selecting one which appears to be rational. So at least it has a potential to be profitable from Trade No.1.

However, as trading is a highly individual game, it would be odd to think that the very first strategy anyone selected would be their ideal strategy. That's why I also suggested it would be useful as a tester to identify what aspects needed to be improved in order for a better strategy to be identified which would work better for you as an individual. If you don't have any strategy then you will learn form whatever strategy you try out. But you only learn from a strategy if you trade it, and I added to demo trade it, so even the losses would be useful but incur no capital losses.

 

[Sonicscooter]

Like has been said, finding a strategy is basic maths and a bit of time and testing, the problem is and where everything unfolds is you the trader of such a strategy will run into a mountain of physiological issues that will impede your success. You can have a successful trader working for a bank for example who uses their strategy, but take them away from that comfort zone and ask them to trade their own account and everything falls apart.

 

[Blindman]

I did not recommend blind buying and selling. I did not recommend blindly selecting any random strategy: I recommended selecting one which appears to be rational. So at least it has a potential to be profitable from Trade No.1.

However, as trading is a highly individual game, it would be odd to think that the very first strategy anyone selected would be their ideal strategy. That's why I also suggested it would be useful as a tester to identify what aspects needed to be improved in order for a better strategy to be identified which would work better for you as an individual. If you don't have any strategy then you will learn form whatever strategy you try out. But you only learn from a strategy if you trade it, and I added to demo trade it, so even the losses would be useful but incur no capital losses.

Thank you for your reply. my mention of randomaly buying selling was due to what poster FXX said above not you or any of your posts.

 

[tomorton]

Thank you for your reply. my mention of randomaly buying selling was due to what poster FXX said above not you or any of your posts.

I don't see what you saw from FXX. But thanks for coming back on this anyway.

 

[Blindman]

Like has been said, finding a strategy is basic maths and a bit of time and testing, the problem is and where everything unfolds is you the trader of such a strategy will run into a mountain of physiological issues that will impede your success. You can have a successful trader working for a bank for example who uses their strategy, but take them away from that comfort zone and ask them to trade their own account and everything falls apart.

Wise words.
It is the basic mamths and how to find that out about any given strategy I am keen on

As we all know a lot of things dont work in the mid to long term that are out there and maybe a few are time tested.

It is the things that work in the long run I am keen on.

But with the magnitude of trading methods out there one could spend 40 years backtesting/forward testing before they come across the correct combination so on. This no doubt will lead to many blown up practice accounts and lead to many traders dropping out before they get there for a number of reasons.

 

[rawrschach]

My point is. You would need a way of extracting money out of the market. for long term success

We all know the figures online about that 90% or so fail inthe long run. Though I am not sure if this is trading in general or just the spot forex market.

So what I am trying to find out is what works in the trading field in the long run.
because either randomly using an online strategy which could have anything from a 99% Drawdown doublling down.
To just ranomly buy and selling as a poster above said due to all methods fail.
Is not going to lead to long term survival.

Literally any strategy can be profitable if it suits your way of thinking and you understand how/why it works. I knew professional prop traders trading MA crossovers profitably.

To quote from reminiscences:

When I got through telling him about my usual practice in trading he nodded and said, "Yes! Yes! You're right. The way you're built, the way your mind runs, makes your system a good system for you. It comes easy for you to practice what you preach,

If you start your education by first understanding how the market works and the dynamics of the market you will start coming up with your own ideas of how to trade. Learn about S/R and order flow for a start.

As for long term profitability - everyone is constantly adapting. You need to keep tabs on whats working on a daily basis and keep an eye out for parameters that need adjusting.

 

[Blindman]

I disagree with aspects of your comment on MA Crossovers and long term survival doing that. I would need more information on what they did and how they did it. What setting they used and what instrument. So on.
But I am very sceptical. But if you provide it I can backtest it just out of interest.

I do agree with Order flow research though I would need Clean data and a decent platform for that. I will look into it.
As for constently adjusting parameters I fear this could lead one to chasing the market (Lagging).
I wish to stay away from all indicators to be honest as I see little gain in a 1000 Period EMA for example.

I will look into a number of things.

This is not directed at you but a comment on what I have experienced.
On some forums over the years I've found I've been given advice that has either not been conveyed in full detail. or the poster has not login for years since making that post and suggesting an approach. This can lead to a number of dead ends.

 

[rawrschach]

With any strategy you need to have a feel for when it will work and when it won't. In line with what other people here have told you - trading is a skill, the strategy is only a small part of that skill.

The MA traders were veteran traders and made good money. They were not blindly trading the crossover without an understanding of when they should/not enter the market and in what conditions it would/not work.