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**Camarilla {b} Equation Calculator**

Anyone heard of or used the above calculator? Is it just a pivot calculator which produces similar results to many freely available on the net?

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Anyone heard of or used the above calculator? Is it just a pivot calculator which produces similar results to many freely available on the net?

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There is also a website that gives you the original equation levels for the dow for free.

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rocwell said:There is also a website that gives you the original equation levels for the dow for free.

Do you have the link for this? I know there was also quite a long thread on Elite about Camarilla.

I will send you the password if you send me your e-mail address. I know that it is a subscribers site but he gives the password out without charge at the moment to those who had joined before May this year. To illustrate the point about accuracy, i have just checked his calculations and you would have expected a reversal in the dow at 9313.9. By my calculation it was 9318. As I was out by a few points i missed the large sell of on the dow but i didn't go long at the open thanks to the formula! The formula gives you an idea on where to place a stoploss as well and today, if you went long, (which i didnt cos i kind of understand the dynamics of the DOW as a market--- always important to know your market!) i would have been stopped out for a 25 point loss. Might sound a lot but the certainty makes it something i dont mind stomaching!

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Ive used it. The {b} is as far as i can make out for 'beginners', and pretty much applies breakouts at pivots. The original eq tho is very different - ive been trading a while, and i still sometimes almost gag when i see how the 8 levels r overlayed on the next day's chart (i only trade sp, no idea how it does on anything else btw). careful with the pw*rds boys, i had to grovel cos they obviously track multiple accesses to the system & figg'd out my pwd had ... 'got into the public domain somehow'...!!!

ps here's one of the charts off the site - my b'day! nice, huh?!

Fellow traders,

I have a question. I came across this web site http://www.surefirething.com/camarilla-equation.html . It looks like a pivot point calculation, but then with 8 levels. I tried to find out more about the formula used, but so far without any luck. Is there anybody who can shed some light on this ?

Thanks in advance, regards,

Andreas

The formula must be out there, but don't know where.

Just another fancy way of calculating pivots?

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Browsing the various T2W threads last night, someone mentioned the "Camarilla Equation".

I followed a few links, but apart from a US compnay offering 'it' at $99 there wasn't too much of any substance.

It looks like a (glorified) pivot points calculator. Certainly appears to use the same input (H,L,C possibly even O as well) and generates 8 R/S lines with special emphasis on L3 and L4 (whatever they may be) I believe.

Thing is, I'm a real junkie for these types of systems. Not just in their prime form but also for what else they might mean (if you know what I mean!). Problem is - I can't find any specifics oh how it's calculated.

Just tried Amazon search and all I got was a load of Vampire Gamne stuff (!!!!).

Antyone have any pointers of specifics - I'd really appreciate it.

Cheers,

It looks as though the formula is a closely guarded secret of Surefirething.com as all searches end up back there.

BUT, they give an example of the calculator for 21 May 2003 and from those figures I have calculated the formulas as:

L4= (high-low)*1.1/2+close

L3= (high-low)*1.1/4+close

L2= (high-low)*1.1/6+close

L1= (high-low)*1.1/12+close

L1= close-(high-low)*1.1/12

L2= close-(high-low)*1.1/6

L3= close-(high-low)*1.1/4

L4= close-(high-low)*1.1/2

Basically L4 is the breakout level in either direction and is just yesterday's range + 10% distributed evenly around the previous close.

All the levels are just evenly distributed around the previous days close.

Without having another set of calculated figures to work on I can't be 100% sure that the above is correct, but it seems to make sense!

That'll be $99 please!

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I assume you'll cover my losses until then?

Thanks for the formula - I'll have a play with it, but I'm not sure why/if it's different/better than pivot points or why there is the mystique that surrounds it.

Maybe people wouldn't pay $99 otherewise.

Just a shot in the dark!!!

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=14665&perpage=6&pagenumber=1

Interesting analysis on link- it seems that reduction in volatility always has a very negative effect on these systems-

It might be a case that one could use discretion - since i always find these type of mechanical systems suffer from inflexibility

e.g. in the ES, maybe look for some kind of basing action around the LL3 so that u dont enter blindly !!