Brexit Remain Rage

sminicooper

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Is this an entirely new phenomenon? Perhaps this might be the new democracy whereby those in charge just keep making you vote until they get the answer that is required. It's really rather frightening that there are people in authority who advocate this. I suppose in some ways this is what we do in trading – don't like the way it's moving? Well, just back out and have another go! – But that's a personal decision that affects only your own wallet.

I listen with incredulity at some of the morons on the radio who now say they didn't really want to Brexit even though they voted to do so – until now I couldn't believe there are people that stupid.
 

Inquisitor

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The vote itself was not legally binding so could be argued as being advisory. It also requires the UK government to push it through parliament. Now if I were an MP and my constituency voted to remain then I would vote against the legislation to make the referendum valid. The Tories only have a working majority of 17 and it wont take much for this to be defeated and if so then the UK remains in the EU.

Cameron is a gambler and up to this point had been lucky with the punts he made but as everyone with any sense knows sooner or later luck for gamblers runs out and that is what happened here. He should have stated that to make any changes a majority of 60% is needed rather than the 52% that it actually was and the really daft thing in all of this is that he didn't need to offer this anyway so even more reckless.

The EU almost ordering the UK to push things through quickly is going to be increasingly annoyed as they will slow it all down to at least October when a new prime minister is appointed.
 

tomorton

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This is the sort of mess that fudges and compromises lead to. Its already a lame duck government that offers a referendum. On anything.
 

Splitlink

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Is this an entirely new phenomenon? Perhaps this might be the new democracy whereby those in charge just keep making you vote until they get the answer that is required. It's really rather frightening that there are people in authority who advocate this. I suppose in some ways this is what we do in trading – don't like the way it's moving? Well, just back out and have another go! – But that's a personal decision that affects only your own wallet.

I listen with incredulity at some of the morons on the radio who now say they didn't really want to Brexit even though they voted to do so – until now I couldn't believe there are people that stupid.

No, neither can I.

This has upset me more than I thought it would.

I do not think that what they have done has sunk in, yet.

I do not understand how the elderly could have done such a thing. I am 84 and this is a matter for the young. I could not vote because I have been out of the UK for more than 15 years but I swear that I would not have sided with Brexit if I could have voted, because I value my grandchildrens' future too much.

The only possibility is that Parliament will not ratify it and that there will be elections, but that is going to cause one hell of a row. The country is divided down the middle with this whole mess. Staying in, with all risks entailed, must be better than this option.
 

Signalcalc

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No, neither can I.

This has upset me more than I thought it would.

I do not think that what they have done has sunk in, yet.

I do not understand how the elderly could have done such a thing. I am 84 and this is a matter for the young. I could not vote because I have been out of the UK for more than 15 years but I swear that I would not have sided with Brexit if I could have voted, because I value my grandchildrens' future too much.

The only possibility is that Parliament will not ratify it and that there will be elections, but that is going to cause one hell of a row. The country is divided down the middle with this whole mess. Staying in, with all risks entailed, must be better than this option.

Hang on a minute, I'm in my middle ages and I'm expecting another 40 years on this earth, so it's my future too :mad:

An out vote is a vote for freedom from tyranny and control, in 30 years time those who stay in will be wishing they were out, in the next few days the EU will be announcing it's ever tighter integration with EU taxes, more regulation and more control over EVERYONE that is a member.

No thank you sir, my vote was for a system that allows the popular vote to say who leads us, not faceless suits on the continent.
 

sminicooper

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No, neither can I.

This has upset me more than I thought it would.

I do not think that what they have done has sunk in, yet.

I do not understand how the elderly could have done such a thing. I am 84 and this is a matter for the young. I could not vote because I have been out of the UK for more than 15 years but I swear that I would not have sided with Brexit if I could have voted, because I value my grandchildrens' future too much.

The only possibility is that Parliament will not ratify it and that there will be elections, but that is going to cause one hell of a row. The country is divided down the middle with this whole mess. Staying in, with all risks entailed, must be better than this option.

Why assume that "elderly" views don't count? Perhaps a lifetime's experience is worth more than that of the modicum accrued by today's youngsters some of whom have never been out into the big, cold outside world - see here http://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/...eneration-strikes-back-with-a-brexit-tantrum/ I call it democracy and sometimes we know better than our kids - but of course, that's only my view!
 
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Splitlink

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Hang on a minute, I'm in my middle ages and I'm expecting another 40 years on this earth, so it's my future too :mad:

An out vote is a vote for freedom from tyranny and control, in 30 years time those who stay in will be wishing they were out, in the next few days the EU will be announcing it's ever tighter integration with EU taxes, more regulation and more control over EVERYONE that is a member.

No thank you sir, my vote was for a system that allows the popular vote to say who leads us, not faceless suits on the continent.

Frankly, that is a load of twaddle. I have not been living under any tyranny, I can assure you. If I had been, I would have returned to the UK decades ago.

You Brexiters do not realise the damage that you have done, but you will do, it gives me no pleasure to say.
 
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Signalcalc

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Frankly, that is a load of twaddle. I have not been living under any tyranny, I can assure you. If I had been, I would have returned to the UK decades ago.

You Brexiters do not realise the damage that you have done, but you will do, it gives me no pleasure to say.

OK, I'm all ears, what damage have we done? What is it that the 'youth' are scared of exactly ?
 

timsk

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. . . but I swear that I would not have sided with Brexit if I could have voted, because I value my grandchildrens' future too much . . .
The irony here Split' is that this is the very reason why I voted out. I certainly didn't do it out of self interest as, in the short term at least, I'll be worse of. I voted in the long term interests of the youngsters. One day, long after I'm dead and buried, I expect there will be a service held each year on June 23rd in memory of the 'Brave Brexiters' who saved our country!
;)
Tim.
 

Splitlink

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The irony here Split' is that this is the very reason why I voted out. I certainly didn't do it out of self interest as, in the short term at least, I'll be worse of. I voted in the long term interests of the youngsters. One day, long after I'm dead and buried, I expect there will be a service held each year on June 23rd in memory of the 'Brave Brexiters' who saved our country!
;)
Tim.

You wish!
 

barjon

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The irony here Split' is that this is the very reason why I voted out. I certainly didn't do it out of self interest as, in the short term at least, I'll be worse of. I voted in the long term interests of the youngsters. One day, long after I'm dead and buried, I expect there will be a service held each year on June 23rd in memory of the 'Brave Brexiters' who saved our country!
;)
Tim.

Or the service that marked the day when the brexiteers prised the great from our title.
 

Splitlink

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OK, I'm all ears, what damage have we done? What is it that the 'youth' are scared of exactly ?

Enough has been said on this subject and I am not about to add more fuel to the fire.

I hope that you are right. It gives me no pleasure for you to be wrong.
 

darktone

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you know what. i see a lot of division. I reckon someone somewhere is very pleased with themselves.
 
 
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