Boiler Room Scams

Canadian International Boiler Room Franchise

Michael Shumak and Ivan:clap:, to boiler rooms in Spain, Thailand and the Philippines:clap:


Gold Horizons Mining Co. Ltd. and Morgan Financial (Canadian Boiler Rooms). The same individuals; Shumak, Bell, Guchone.

From Shumak's Linkedin profile:
Shumak Michael
Always the Top Salesman in the room
Location
Toronto, Canada Area
Industry
Investment Management

Always the Top Scammer in the room, would be a better way to present Mr. Shumi.
 
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Peter Pan said:
Canadian International Boiler Room Franchise

Michael Shumak to Ivan:clap:, to boiler rooms in Spain, Thailand and the Philippines:clap:


Gold Horizons Mining Co. Ltd. and Morgan Financial (Canadian Boiler Rooms). The same individuals; Shumak, Bell, Guchone.

From Shumak's Linkedin profile:
Shumak Michael
Always the Top Salesman in the room
Location
Toronto, Canada Area
Industry
Investment Management

Always the Top Scammer in the room, would be a better way to present Mr. Shumi.
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Tobyjug sounds like the guy I'm chasing right now, he's from the Dutch/German border - we will be freezing assets soon so please get in touch with me. We need as many leads as possible to nail this b*tards assets and get some money back.
 
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Re: Gold Horizons Mining Co. Ltd

Peter Pan said:
yes!
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Thank you Peter for your information, it has already been sent to an Authority.

Peter Carlsen told me he was a Canadian, however I have no way to verify his statement, the only verification he made was that he is a criminal. Ben Jackson was another fool, fools will eventually hang themselves. Jackson was my last contact with Morgan, however several other people talk about James White who was an Englishman endgaged in Fraud with Morgan too.

Thanks again, if you hear anything else please let me know
 
Noodle_the_Noodle said:
Since finding out a few weeks ago that a family member has lost over $500k to an international boiler room fraud, I've been reading various posts with great interest while doing research. I've created an account to request you contact me via pm if you have dealt with a share agent who has a Dutch / German accent, who also uses English slang. As the scammers read these forums I can't say anymore at this point but please get in touch ASAP (regardless of where you are located) as we are close and are working with the right people to freeze assets.
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Hi Noodle, i,m sorry to hear about your family loss, it is enough to send them potty my friend.

Peter Carlsen and Benjackson were the fraudsters who called me, they worked for Morgan Financial advisors who apparently traded out of Japan and New York.

http://http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/Noodle I hope you have reported your scam to action fraud on 0300 123 2040. They are the new Operation Archway which was an intelligence gathering department within the City of London Police.

Ben Jackson spoke with a German Austrian accent. Peter Woolfe another Morgan Financial criminal spoke with a definate German accent, Peter Carlsen sounded American Canadian.. Last but by no means least Benoit Mercier a Frenchman who looked after logging in to Mrgan Financial website issues.
 
Morgan Financial Advisors. Operated by Peter Carlsen, sounds Canadian said he rang from Hong Kong.

Benjamin Jackson, sounds German Austrian or Dutch maybe

James White English

Peter Woolfe German

Benoit Mercier French

Any information you have regarding these persons, please get in touch.
 
re: Asia Global Energy
I have been contacted recently from a company called Stallman Clark who told me this was the best thing since 'sliced bread'. I gave the broker a bit of a runaround and asked him if his company was registered by the FSA. He said it was so I asked what the regn number is.....at that point he got quite aggressive and said it had nothing to do with the above

Has anyone else been contacted by Stallman Clark ?

David
 
Wonder if you have information about Peter Carlsen & Benjamin Jackson from Morgan Financial advisors?
 
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Watch out for this one -

Hewlett Partners Limited out of 'New York (but in reality some office in Spain or Asia) - Hewlett and Partners Limited : Home

Working a recovery room scam, you know, calling somebody telling them they'll buy their (worthless) shares from them for a big pay day BUT BUT BUT first they'll have to pay £5,000 or so for a 'security bond'. Pay that moey and it WILL be stolen.

Check out the site, normal boiler room crap, tells you a lot but then absolutly nothing....

One good tip to ow to spot these scammers (apart from using common sense) is that they all use cheap VOIP phones so when you speak they can't hear you and vice-versa. Proper investment firms use proper phones....
 
Tobyjug said:
Hi Noodle, i,m sorry to hear about your family loss, it is enough to send them potty my friend.

Peter Carlsen and Benjackson were the fraudsters who called me, they worked for Morgan Financial advisors who apparently traded out of Japan and New York.

http://http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/Noodle I hope you have reported your scam to action fraud on 0300 123 2040. They are the new Operation Archway which was an intelligence gathering department within the City of London Police.

Ben Jackson spoke with a German Austrian accent. Peter Woolfe another Morgan Financial criminal spoke with a definate German accent, Peter Carlsen sounded American Canadian.. Last but by no means least Benoit Mercier a Frenchman who looked after logging in to Mrgan Financial website issues.
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Hi Tobyjug. I'm looking for voice recordings to match up with what I have. I don't want to detail how inept the ActionFraud protocol is right now but I'll let you read this by Tony Hetherington published with my help and post my contact with him.

Fraud victims will be told to forget police and contact call centre | Mail Online

When I previously said we are close to freezing assets I'm not joking, this is our full-time jobs now, we are definitely not playing games. I can't say more than we are working very closely with City of London Police who are chasing the UK link and in addition we are also going the civil route and as a result have established a hell of a lot more on the international scammers. We have real names, real businesses (with huge assets) and a lot more intel. But! we need more links before moving in to freeze assets. To do this, it costs a good £15K so the time has to be spot on, with the appropriate supporting evidence.

Really to help you guys to help me I need to give fakes names and businesses the scammers use, but I just can't make it public for obvious reasons at this time. As soon as I can, there will be websites, lots of social exposure and a book to warn and educate others.

I urge everyone to record scammer phone calls and soon you'll have a website to upload them to. More on this soon.

To record phone calls all I use is this lead http://www.amazon.co.uk/ReTell-Recording-Adaptor-Color--Black/dp/B000P3I6OE which connects inline between phone line and phone, and via a speaker-out to microphone-input on this recorder http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-ICD-PX312-Digital-voice-recorder/dp/B004SO9604 which records in MP3. I transfer to PC for backups. Takes 5 mins tops to set up and ready to record.
 
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BobbyBB said:
Watch out for this one -

Hewlett Partners Limited out of 'New York (but in reality some office in Spain or Asia) - Hewlett and Partners Limited : Home

Working a recovery room scam, you know, calling somebody telling them they'll buy their (worthless) shares from them for a big pay day BUT BUT BUT first they'll have to pay £5,000 or so for a 'security bond'. Pay that moey and it WILL be stolen.

Check out the site, normal boiler room crap, tells you a lot but then absolutly nothing....

One good tip to ow to spot these scammers (apart from using common sense) is that they all use cheap VOIP phones so when you speak they can't hear you and vice-versa. Proper investment firms use proper phones....
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Thank you! Will check them out.:):D
 
I must still have " SUCKER " written on my forehead.
Got 2 unsolicited phone calls yesterday.
One from a number that showed " 88888888 " on my mobile. Ray Green speaking with a marble in his mouth to give himself a British accent. Calling from Hong Kong from a SCAM ' company ' called O.V.G.
Specialised in Gold Options & nearly bored me to death with a 13 minute account of how they worked + more so how he would make money, ........ I mean he would make ME money. Slip of his tongue there. He wanted to call again when I would be sitting in front of my computer and direct me to the various web sites he spoke about. But I wanted a e-mail from him first , so I could view them at my convenience. He was to e-mail me last night about Gold Options but so far none has arrived. This Ray green is a beginner, I will string him along for a month or two.
Second one from John Wilson, scamming for COMMODITY LINKS in London 00 44 20 8150 9057
Doesn't need a small stone in his mouth to speak the Queen's English. As the name suggests , He scams by getting SUCKERS to send him money to deal or trade or take options in Commodities.
Again our John is slow in e-mailing on information. But I will await his follow on call.
 
Noodle_the_Noodle said:
Hi Tobyjug. I'm looking for voice recordings to match up with what I have. I don't want to detail how inept the ActionFraud protocol is right now but I'll let you read this by Tony Hetherington published with my help and post my contact with him.

Fraud victims will be told to forget police and contact call centre | Mail Online

When I previously said we are close to freezing assets I'm not joking, this is our full-time jobs now, we are definitely not playing games. I can't say more than we are working very closely with City of London Police who are chasing the UK link and in addition we are also going the civil route and as a result have established a hell of a lot more on the international scammers. We have real names, real businesses (with huge assets) and a lot more intel. But! we need more links before moving in to freeze assets. To do this, it costs a good £15K so the time has to be spot on, with the appropriate supporting evidence.

Really to help you guys to help me I need to give fakes names and businesses the scammers use, but I just can't make it public for obvious reasons at this time. As soon as I can, there will be websites, lots of social exposure and a book to warn and educate others.

I urge everyone to record scammer phone calls and soon you'll have a website to upload them to. More on this soon.

To record phone calls all I use is this lead http://www.amazon.co.uk/ReTell-Recording-Adaptor-Color--Black/dp/B000P3I6OE which connects inline between phone line and phone, and via a speaker-out to microphone-input on this recorder Sony ICD-PX312 - Digital voice recorder - flash 2 GB - MP3 - black: Amazon.co.uk: Office Products which records in MP3. I transfer to PC for backups. Takes 5 mins tops to set up and ready to record.
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Thank you Noodle for your information. I have told all I know about the Fraudsters who hit me to the local and London Police. My M.P. has also contacted the Police Authority in the country I sent money too.

Action Fraud were very helpful when I rang them. Please contact me further if you have information about PETER CARLSEN or BEN JACKSON from MORGAN Financial advisors and lets see if we can track down these idiots who destroy lives here in the UK and throughout the World because they cannot live in a real society.
 
PP. No need to check out Hewlett Partners Limited out of 'New York'.

They are 100% a scam operation, and that's as guaranteed as the sun setting in the East today.

Really nasty bunch no doubt, you know the kind of people, happy to steal the life savings from old age pensioners via a pack of lies. That in my book makes you truly the SCUM of the earth. In fact I'd put the Ripper above you (don't laugh, it's not a joke).

For any scammer reading this, what do you think your parents would think of you if they knew the truth, ie you specialised in stealing money from pensioners.

Would they still love you? Would they forgive you or would their lives never be the same again knowing just how scummy their son REALLY was. Something to think about next time you make that call for of lies......

It's also something to think about if the Police come knocking at your door. They're now looking at A LOT of these boiler rooms, didn't you know....
 
I have not heard of Stallman Clark but Asia Global Energy is far from sliced bread. A company with a virtual office in Mumbai and no one that answers phones or emails.

Sadly to say my greediness got the better of me through a different boiler room scam.

I would assume these are the same meatheads that are contacting you.

Do you have any names, locations, or emails?



Desktrader said:
re: Asia Global Energy
I have been contacted recently from a company called Stallman Clark who told me this was the best thing since 'sliced bread'. I gave the broker a bit of a runaround and asked him if his company was registered by the FSA. He said it was so I asked what the regn number is.....at that point he got quite aggressive and said it had nothing to do with the above

Has anyone else been contacted by Stallman Clark ?

David
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Gargamle2 said:
I have not heard of Stallman Clark but Asia Global Energy is far from sliced bread. A company with a virtual office in Mumbai and no one that answers phones or emails.

Sadly to say my greediness got the better of me through a different boiler room scam.

I would assume these are the same meatheads that are contacting you.

Do you have any names, locations, or emails?
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I was contacted by a guy from Crown Capital Management in Jakarta a few months ago. He tried to sell me Asia Global Energy. Said it would jump up in the following weeks. Luckily I did not believe a word of his lies.
 
Tobyjug said:
Thank you Noodle for your information. I have told all I know about the Fraudsters who hit me to the local and London Police. My M.P. has also contacted the Police Authority in the country I sent money too.

Action Fraud were very helpful when I rang them. Please contact me further if you have information about PETER CARLSEN or BEN JACKSON from MORGAN Financial advisors and lets see if we can track down these idiots who destroy lives here in the UK and throughout the World because they cannot live in a real society.
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Good idea! I will start recording:clap:
 
BobbyBB said:
PP. No need to check out Hewlett Partners Limited out of 'New York'.

They are 100% a scam operation, and that's as guaranteed as the sun setting in the East today.

Really nasty bunch no doubt, you know the kind of people, happy to steal the life savings from old age pensioners via a pack of lies. That in my book makes you truly the SCUM of the earth. In fact I'd put the Ripper above you (don't laugh, it's not a joke).

For any scammer reading this, what do you think your parents would think of you if they knew the truth, ie you specialised in stealing money from pensioners.

Would they still love you? Would they forgive you or would their lives never be the same again knowing just how scummy their son REALLY was. Something to think about next time you make that call for of lies......

It's also something to think about if the Police come knocking at your door. They're now looking at A LOT of these boiler rooms, didn't you know....
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Thank you for your warning. I agree with everything you have to say about these
criminals, lowest of the low. Idiots really, they will be caught some day.
 
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