Are you happy with your anti virus software ?

Signalcalc

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Interesting, Tim. Presumably it has “open office” or something so how to you get on dealing with the microsoft based things people send you?

Everything is Google based, so google docs, google mail, chrome etc, all free, so well worth it if you want to use a Chromebook, my better half has used the same Chromebook for nearly 5 years now, cost around £300 at the time, it never goes out of date, the OS is updated automatically, not sure about the virus aspects and if they are truly immune.

Outside of the technicals, I would use a Chromebook if it wasn't for privacy concerns and I am already invested in MacOS software (privacy concerns are mostly my personal objections to Google itself, therefore you could say I have personal objections to the brand and not because I disagree with the level of security a Chromebook can provide....Google itself notwithstanding).

I don't know if it's possible to use it without a Google account (I suspect not) and unfortunately I operate an Android phone so now I will contradict my own objections to Google because an Android phone requires a Google sign-in (even though the sign-in is not used for any other purpose), so privacy concerns are no doubt a moot point as mobile phones are clearly now the bigger security risk if they are used for browsing and other apps.

From a privacy PoV we are all screwed whatever tech you own!
 
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Signalcalc

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Everything is Google based, so google docs, google mail, chrome etc, all free, so well worth it if you want to use a Chromebook, my better half has used the same Chromebook for nearly 5 years now, cost around £300 at the time, it never goes out of date, the OS is updated automatically, not sure about the virus aspects and if they are truly immune.

Outside of the technicals, I would use a Chromebook if it wasn't for privacy concerns and I am already invested in MacOS software (privacy concerns are mostly my personal objections to Google itself, therefore you could say I have personal objections to the brand and not because I disagree with the level of security a Chromebook can provide....Google itself notwithstanding).

I don't know if it's possible to use it without a Google account (I suspect not) and unfortunately I operate an Android phone so now I will contradict my own objections to Google because an Android phone requires a Google sign-in (even though the sign-in is not used for any other purpose), so privacy concerns are no doubt a moot point as mobile phones are clearly now the bigger security risk if they are used for browsing and other apps.

From a privacy PoV we are all screwed whatever tech you own!
I should add that my better half bought her Chromebook as she was starting a BA Hons, so it fulfilled all the criteria needed to complete that [emoji16][emoji106]
 

timsk

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Interesting, Tim. Presumably it has “open office” or something so how to you get on dealing with the microsoft based things people send you?
Hi Jon,
As it happens, I don't get sent much these days! Be that as it may, I can open MS Word docs - but the formatting is likely to go fukty. I've not tried it, but in theory that issue is easily solved by installing the appropriate App. If I want to create a new doc. I use Google docs which is fine for my purposes. Thus far, I've not been in a position where I'm unable to do something on the Chromebook that I was able to do on my old Windows machine. That said, I'm no techie and my needs are very basic. Web browsing, T2W, e-mail and YouTube pretty much cover all bases. For me, its biggest USP is not having to worry about viruses, malware and internet security; clever techies at Google HQ take care of all of that. Needless to say, absolutely everything is Google based, so it's not suitable for anyone who has issues with that. Whilst I'm not totally comfortable with it, there's not much I can do about it and besides, I don't use the Chromebook in a way that will remotely be of any interest to anyone else!
Tim.
 

barjon

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Hi Jon,
As it happens, I don't get sent much these days! Be that as it may, I can open MS Word docs - but the formatting is likely to go fukty. I've not tried it, but in theory that issue is easily solved by installing the appropriate App. If I want to create a new doc. I use Google docs which is fine for my purposes. Thus far, I've not been in a position where I'm unable to do something on the Chromebook that I was able to do on my old Windows machine. That said, I'm no techie and my needs are very basic. Web browsing, T2W, e-mail and YouTube pretty much cover all bases. For me, its biggest USP is not having to worry about viruses, malware and internet security; clever techies at Google HQ take care of all of that. Needless to say, absolutely everything is Google based, so it's not suitable for anyone who has issues with that. Whilst I'm not totally comfortable with it, there's not much I can do about it and besides, I don't use the Chromebook in a way that will remotely be of any interest to anyone else!
Tim.
Thanks, Tim (and Signal earlier). Personally, I spend most of my time with I-pad with the occasional foray to my pc and reasonably content. Pam (my one!) is fed up with her slow pc and wants something simple and fast, ok for on-line banking and ok for her to send and receive docs to and from MS users.
 

Signalcalc

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Hi Jon,
As it happens, I don't get sent much these days! Be that as it may, I can open MS Word docs - but the formatting is likely to go fukty. I've not tried it, but in theory that issue is easily solved by installing the appropriate App. If I want to create a new doc. I use Google docs which is fine for my purposes. Thus far, I've not been in a position where I'm unable to do something on the Chromebook that I was able to do on my old Windows machine. That said, I'm no techie and my needs are very basic. Web browsing, T2W, e-mail and YouTube pretty much cover all bases. For me, its biggest USP is not having to worry about viruses, malware and internet security; clever techies at Google HQ take care of all of that. Needless to say, absolutely everything is Google based, so it's not suitable for anyone who has issues with that. Whilst I'm not totally comfortable with it, there's not much I can do about it and besides, I don't use the Chromebook in a way that will remotely be of any interest to anyone else!
Tim.
The issue of privacy is not just related to nefarious activities that one might wish to get up to, more that the whole internet experience that you receive as an individual can be manipulated based on historical browsing.

It's a rather large subject area certainly too big for this thread, but in a nutshell, unless you take steps to protect yourself from the various technical means that have been used to make a profile of your computer use then one leaves oneself vulnerable to manipulation via the internet.

If we could step back to the Internet of 20 years ago, history was something you owned and could delete, the search experience was relatively unbiased for example, search results were not manipulated. Step forward 20 years and sophisticated collection, profiling and dissemination techniques have turned people's browsing history into a goldmine for those that own the search engine algorithms (Google being the most popular), 3rd party trackers make money for corporations and govts and political parties make political gain.

Understanding the above allows one to decide what they want/wish to do with their Internet experience.
 

timsk

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. . . Pam (my one!) is fed up with her slow pc and wants something simple and fast, ok for on-line banking and ok for her to send and receive docs to and from MS users.
Jon - from what you say I think Pam (your one!) would do well to consider a Chromebook. There's loads of info' and videos etc. about them online that will enable her to make an informed decision. I love mine!
Tim.
 

J_C_Anderson

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As for me, if you are using your PC only for office purposes, it would be enough to use built-in Windows Defender. This approach is also suitable in case if you are working only with a few trusted resources. At the same time, if you need advanced protection, it would be better to use special software. Nowadays there are numerous solutions, both free and paid, so it is quite easy to find one that would fit particular purposes. You can easily find information in numerous comparisons to figure out the aspects that are most important for you.

And yes, I agree that security and privacy mostly depends on efforts made by user and on actual use profile. Both Windows and macOS systems are quite secure, so the only thing you need is to take all reasonable measures to maintain protection level.
 

Pat494

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Personally I never use my PC for banking. Too many woeful stories of accounts being cleaned out by crooks.
 

Signalcalc

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Personally I never use my PC for banking. Too many woeful stories of accounts being cleaned out by crooks.

The risks are extremely low, billions of online banking transactions via apps and websites each day, a tiny percentage are attacked, banks have recently been taking additional steps to provide extra security for users, they have finally woken up to the threat and how relatively simple steps can be taken to reduce the risks.
 

manover

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I purchased Kaspersky recently.. Like probably one month back. Look alright to me. No complaint so far.
 

Nowler

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...Not had any problems at all – but then I don't download dodgy stuff, or visit dodgy websites (and I don't mean porn) and anything that is downloaded is scanned before use. ..

So you're saying you do visit porn sites? 😁
Xnxx .com all the way!! Haha

On a serious note though. I do visit potentially dodgy websites and I only use my inbuilt Windows antivirus... windows defender or something... and the free version of Malwarebytes. Though periodically they let me upgrade to the premium version for 14 days for free. I am sure to run in depth scans when I have the free trial

I use Chrome, but DuckDuckGo as my search engine. I have Tor Browser installed too, but cant remember the last time I used that
 
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Yes, I am. Frankly speaking, I never faced any significant viruses that could harm my PC, but my friends even got their PCs locked and frauded, so I'm quite afraid of being frauded to. I use Avast, it's much better that Windows Protector (I don't even know is Windows in-built app a kind of antivirus, or that is just a system utility). Avast is free and. according to reviews I've met, it's quite effective. I also use Dr.Web every 3 days to check my PC for viruses. I run it every time after I finished all my tasks, so I'm sure that everything is checked and there will be no viruses or other fraud materials.


Windows Defender is all you need if you do NOT visit Porn websites but instead go to the real deal, LIVE. Viruses, like ants go to where the sugar is - after extraction from a LIVE event, wash thoroughly and walk away with a clean getaway.
 
 
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