Any FUTEX traders here?

traderman1

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I have read all the other threads here about FUTEX. I have a niece that wants to get more involved in trading. She has been trading with me for the last year and has been successful. I would like to send her to a prop trader shop to continue her education.Is there anyone here who has been trading for a prop trader like FUTEX for a MINIMUM of 12 months. Most of the posters that went to work at FUTEX like Pelzar, rawrschach, Skill Leverage, don't post here anymore
This thread is not a discussion the merits of prop trading versus trading for yourself. It is to ask any FUTEX traders to discuss their experiences
 
I received a PM from a poster here but I am not sure that I am able to send any PMs yet. So I will put my questions here.

From what you have written, both you and your friend no longer work at prop trading houses. Do most people only stay a short time? And if so, why? Is there a problem with prop trading? All information would be appreciated.
 
I received a PM from a poster here but I am not sure that I am able to send any PMs yet. So I will put my questions here.

From what you have written, both you and your friend no longer work at prop trading houses. Do most people only stay a short time? And if so, why? Is there a problem with prop trading? All information would be appreciated.

FUTEX = BORING. As inspiring as a hole in the head.

You're not doing your niece any favors for sending her to Futex. Also, but this is only my opinion, a trading company that cannot compel their trainees to make money sooner than an average 18 months(!!!) simply cannot be a good training company, or are using a truly bad trading platform or trading system. If it was truly that difficult to trade that your chances of being successful is close to 1%, every Hedge Fund and Bank would be broke by now and not employee thousands of traders. (n)(n)(n)
 
FUTEX = BORING. As inspiring as a hole in the head.

You're not doing your niece any favors for sending her to Futex. Also, but this is only my opinion, a trading company that cannot compel their trainees to make money sooner than an average 18 months(!!!) simply cannot be a good training company, or are using a truly bad trading platform or trading system. If it was truly that difficult to trade that your chances of being successful is close to 1%, every Hedge Fund and Bank would be broke by now and not employee thousands of traders. (n)(n)(n)

You're more accurate with that figure than you think. Also in terms of prop shops, Futex is one of the better ones out there.

Sending you PM traderman.
 
If it was truly that difficult to trade that your chances of being successful is close to 1%, every Hedge Fund and Bank would be broke by now and not employee thousands of traders. (n)(n)(n)

You've no idea what you're talking about, I'm afraid.

Firstly, banks derive almost none of their income from prop trading, so that part of your statement is irrelevant.

Secondly, what makes you think hedge funds make money in the same way that an outfit like Futex does? Again, there is little correlation.

Delivering scalable excess (risk adjusted) returns is in fact very difficult, to suggest otherwise is naive.
 
You've no idea what you're talking about, I'm afraid.

Firstly, banks derive almost none of their income from prop trading, so that part of your statement is irrelevant.

Secondly, what makes you think hedge funds make money in the same way that an outfit like Futex does? Again, there is little correlation.

Delivering scalable excess (risk adjusted) returns is in fact very difficult, to suggest otherwise is naive.

SHHHHHH! Stop putting people off, makes the job harder! :clap:
 
FUTEX = BORING. As inspiring as a hole in the head.

You're not doing your niece any favors for sending her to Futex. Also, but this is only my opinion, a trading company that cannot compel their trainees to make money sooner than an average 18 months(!!!) simply cannot be a good training company, or are using a truly bad trading platform or trading system. If it was truly that difficult to trade that your chances of being successful is close to 1%, every Hedge Fund and Bank would be broke by now and not employee thousands of traders. (n)(n)(n)

18 months to become a profitable trader is GOOD! :clap:
 
Futex offers a good opportunity but I have to ask, why would you want to go there if you are already profitable for 18months. Trade for yourself.

Also you might want to consider moving closer to the Futex offices if you get in because it is in Woking and getting there in time for European open can be tricky, especially when the clocks go back later in the year.
 
Hotch,

This has to do with it that a bloke I recently met at a trading conference told me he used to work at Futex. He said the problem for him was that he would have to get the train at 5.20 in the morning to ensure he arrived at the office for 6. He did not live that far away either. My point is that if you are embarking on a career at Futex save yourself the early wakes and move closer to the offices.

As alot of the other prop firms are central London this is not a problem as the trains run more frequently and more round the clock.

Of course, once you are an established trader you can just taxi to work everyday if you wish but the first two years are the toughest and my purpose of this post was to raise this as too many people think learning to trade is an easy life and you make lots of money straight away.

I am relatively new to this site so if you prefer I did not contribute my experiences in the field then I shall remain reserved.
 
I thought Futex have a central London office for as well as the Woking one?
 
PualoP,

Yes they do but this office is not for trainees. All training is done in Woking. Also the central london office is just more like a hub to give them more credibility and get them known globally hardly any traders are there.
 
Futex offers a good opportunity but I have to ask, why would you want to go there if you are already profitable for 18months. Trade for yourself.

Also you might want to consider moving closer to the Futex offices if you get in because it is in Woking and getting there in time for European open can be tricky, especially when the clocks go back later in the year.


Im sure futex offer remote training?¿?¿...
 
Yes they do but there is nothing like training on the proper floor. You learn from experts who know the game. No chat room facility compares to this. Maybe I am just old school but I was taught face to face on a trading floor and so I know that method works and thats why I reject the remote training I guess.
 
You've no idea what you're talking about, I'm afraid.

Firstly, banks derive almost none of their income from prop trading, so that part of your statement is irrelevant.

Secondly, what makes you think hedge funds make money in the same way that an outfit like Futex does? Again, there is little correlation.

Delivering scalable excess (risk adjusted) returns is in fact very difficult, to suggest otherwise is naive.



Ok, Obi-wan Kenobi, teach us your wisdom. Ehr...Banks and Hedge funds don't hire traders? I don't know what world your coming from. I have many friends trading for either or, except those who trade (invest) their own accounts. And where on earth did I claim they trade like Futex, the losers??

Futex is a training company. They claim to train people in trading to enable them to 'trade anything' whether it is Forex, Stocks, Options etc. and is supposedly"the best". My poor impression of them is only from brief meetings but I can guarantee there is nothing close to "the best" going on there! If you're not making money, why stay there?? If I don't make money on strategy 1, I go to strategy 2. I certainly don't hang around for almost two years using the same losing strategy, and continue with it.

On that note, I don't have extensive knowledge like you in trading, Obi-Wan Kenobi. But I invest my own money and I make money. I currently run three test accounts for my own strategies trying to build it to about £1 mil to see how long it would take, and would it actually work or not. One of my accounts started with £5,000 and is now at £104,254 in 48 trades (including losses). May not be a fortune for the 'smarter' people like yourself, but its been less than eight months so its faired all right. A second account with a starting pot of £3,000 is building up nicely too. The third one is too early to tell. My accounts all have disciplined strategies, money management, and strict loss control in mind so they don't go haywire. Just the basics.

I'm self taugh for a year, plus I got some 'tricks of the trade' friends of mine use (successful traders and investors). In honesty, I am surprised at the comments that so many traders fail. The traders I've been around - even the novices - have acceptable percentage of success. Some of my friends are really wealthy but mainly from investments (trading) in stocks - not from daytrading. They're the ones who inspired me. I am more interested in investments in stocks. But since I thought it may give me some benefit to train with a "professional" company and get the official certificate I applied with Futex (=:yawn). But a company like Futex??? No way! I want to learn from people who actually make money, who can prove they have created wealth, and not from people who struggle to manage! Futex is clearly the latter and if that's one of the better props, its pretty darn sad.
 
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