Zupconite betting system 100 % profitable

[oildaytrader]

That has not been the case on numerous occasions as shown by those who make large profits using Demo accounts when testing EA and then lose when trading real money.


Paul

The reason they lose is due to execution of bucket shops.On a demo traders get filled on quotes from interbank ,on live accounts bucket shops screw up and play games because bucket shop has no liquidity.They also delay fills and hunt for stops etc on live accounts

That is my understanding.

If the quotes are delayed on demo ,and if all quotes are delayed for entries,exits and stops,it should not have a material difference

 

[tomorton]

The reason they lose is due to execution of bucket shops.On a demo traders get filled on quotes from interbank ,on live accounts bucket shops screw up and play games because bucket shop has no liquidity.They also delay fills and hunt for stops etc on live accounts

That is my understanding.

If the quotes are delayed on demo ,and if all quotes are delayed for entries,exits and stops,it should not have a material difference

Yes, absolutely, you must be right. Go for broke. It can't fail. Don't wait for January, go live right away, go all in, then laugh all the way to the bank.

 

[oildaytrader]

Yes, absolutely, you must be right. Go for broke. It can't fail. Don't wait for January, go live right away, go all in, then laugh all the way to the bank.

That is not my style , but to hit the market in a cool and calculated way.I do not charge in like discretionary amateurs.Patience is required for well planned execution.

The Zupconite traders always win , Zupconite traders get the edge of martingale and the odds of a casino.It is the best thing since sliced bread.

O D T

 

[Trader333]

On a demo traders get filled on quotes from interbank

Why on Earth would Bucketshops use interbank datafeeds for Demo accounts and then switch to their own quote when trading for real ?

I think you have this completely wrong. Even if they did use interbank datafeeds they would still need to fill at the Ask and Bid which they don't.


Paul

 

[oildaytrader]

Why on Earth would Bucketshops use interbank datafeeds for Demo accounts and then switch to their own quote when trading for real ?

I think you have this completely wrong. Even if they did use interbank datafeeds they would still need to fill at the Ask and Bid which they don't.


Paul

Their own quotes and fills can be based on sparse liquidity from their platforms.They have to pay a spread to the liquidity provider ,often they avoid this spread by filling from their own liquidity at bad prices.

Have you ever tested demo data feeds and got some proof of non fills at bid and ask on demo?I have never had demo no fill situation,I have always had live account no fill situations.

O D T

 

[oildaytrader]

This is another reason they give you different price feeds.

Client places order to buy at market.Broker offers no fill for 30 seconds.

30 seconds later broker offers a fill at 12 pips above , now that extra 12 pips is an additional spread in addition to 1.8 pips , which equates to 13.8 pips.If expert advisors are placing buy market orders,traders get screwed for 12 extra pips spread.

In this instance the broker could have bought at 13.8 pips below , and filled at 13.8 pips above.If the broker is executing in millions ($100 per pip) ,hundreds of times a day , it amounts to a lot of profit at the expense of customer.

This is a bucket shop tactic to offer price feeds to screw customers out of extra spread.

They use this software called dealer plugin to delay execution.

http://www.trade2win.com/boards/for...ing-desk-brokers-avoid-them-5.html#post973514

 

[oildaytrader]

The Zupconite tablets are really powerful.This is the new marketing campaign for Zupconite.

Removed new ad.

It was the best advertisement you would have ever seen.Unfortunately they might think I am WASP with a hot personality.

It was too hot to post.

O D T

 

[trendie]

The Zupconite tablets are really powerful.This is the new marketing campaign for Zupconite.

Removed new ad.

It was the best advertisement you would have ever seen.Unfortunately they might think I am WASP with a hot personality.

It was too hot to post.

O D T

do you do these tablets in strawberry flavour?
and can I operate industrial machinery while taking them?

 

[piparb]

30 seconds is toooooo long

Are you shure in what you say ???
If it takes 30 seconds to fill , I will stop trading
With what broker you have test this ???
The Zypriotic accounts are so , but not the Londoner brokerfirms .
In Future accounts it takes 0.1 second to fill , I testet it .

stop crying start trading

This is another reason they give you different price feeds.

Client places order to buy at market.Broker offers no fill for 30 seconds.

30 seconds later broker offers a fill at 12 pips above , now that extra 12 pips is an additional spread in addition to 1.8 pips , which equates to 13.8 pips.If expert advisors are placing buy market orders,traders get screwed for 12 extra pips spread.

In this instance the broker could have bought at 13.8 pips below , and filled at 13.8 pips above.If the broker is executing in millions ($100 per pip) ,hundreds of times a day , it amounts to a lot of profit at the expense of customer.

This is a bucket shop tactic to offer price feeds to screw customers out of extra spread.

They use this software called dealer plugin to delay execution.

http://www.trade2win.com/boards/for...ing-desk-brokers-avoid-them-5.html#post973514

 

[oildaytrader]

do you do these tablets in strawberry flavour?
and can I operate industrial machinery while taking them?

I have now cracked the code for Zupconite to have a maximum progressive increment of approximately 8 positions,e g a losing streak of 20 consecutive losses will now have a maximum exposure equivalent of 8 consecutive losers.

With all the other scaling down tricks ,the average maximum consecutive losers will be around 4.It gives a risk of 30 % of account size ,and annual reward of 30%.This achievement is in difficult wretched market conditions, when most traders blow up.

Under normal martingale style trading , risk can be entire account with reward remaining the same, resulting in account blowout and often the risk reward ratio is 10 to 1 ,or 10 % returns.

The objective is achieved

The puzzle is how did I achieve it?A good close answer and I will reveal.

O D T

 

[tomorton]

The puzzle is how did I achieve it?A good close answer and I will reveal.

O D T[/QUOTE]


No.
The puzzle is when are you going to start trading with real money and publish your results?
I am not qualified to dismiss your system, but I am disappointed you yourself don't have more faith in it to actually trader using it.

 

[oildaytrader]

The puzzle is how did I achieve it?A good close answer and I will reveal.

O D T

No.
The puzzle is when are you going to start trading with real money and publish your results?
I am not qualified to dismiss your system, but I am disappointed you yourself don't have more faith in it to actually trader using it.[/QUOTE]

Tom

The semi automated version was on demo testing ,last weekend I switched to a live account,therefore I will eventually publish the live results.These are using initial trade sizes of 0.01 lots.After about three months and using a updated, improved and tested version,trades size will be 0.1 lots.

I have absolute faith in it,this system is being implemented cautiously and thoughtfully.This is a new system,the practical implications of utilising it ,using all the tricks of down scaling are unknown.

I have a gut feeling that a future improved version can trade full lots and provide a risk reward ratio of 1 to 2.

O D T

 

[oildaytrader]

And here is the opening trades on Zupconite on a live account.Account in sterling.

This system uses two computers exclusively for the system

 

[Rossini]

On average what % of your profit (gross) is used to pay commissions and spread?

 

[oildaytrader]

On average what % of your profit (gross) is used to pay commissions and spread?

I can only give estimates.I trade mainly euro /usd and pay a 1.8 pip spread and have an average target of 30 pips = 0.067 %

O D T

 

[Rossini]

My Maths is not great, im first to admit that. But 1.8 pips is not 0.067% of 30.

 

[oildaytrader]

My Maths is not great, im first to admit that. But 1.8 pips is not 0.067% of 30.

O K so it is 0.6 % ,must have pressed wrong figure on calculator.

O D T

 

[Rossini]

Im not trying to be argumentative here, but its not 0.6%.

If the spread was 1.5 pips it would be 5% of Average profits.

 

[oildaytrader]

Im not trying to be argumentative here, but its not 0.6%.

If the spread was 1.5 pips it would be 5% of Average profits.

Rossini

My mistake,just forgot one decimal.That spread is pretty high considering the same spread can generate 150 pips, making it 1.2 %.In most of my other systems spread is very important, here profitability is more important.

Also consider that my systems with t/p of 150 pips produce 7 pips average profit per trade.If you look at spread as a percentage of net profits , the percentage on normal systems is high.

O D T

 

[Trader333]

Is this correct that you have an account with around £4.5K in it and are trading to make profits of under £2 a time ?


Paul