I'm not going to argue with you but as I said earlier only bbmac has been posting lately or havent you noticed. Also, it wasnt an attack on anyone the point I was making is that most people in the thread (bbmac being the person I mentioned) do not posts their trades in great detail i.e. targets stops etc.
the entry and stop is a function of the pin-bar.
it is not necessary to identify the stop since you should be able to work it out.
(when someone asks you to make a cup of tea, you really ought not to have to be told to remember to put a tea-bag in the cup, and to remember to boil the water.)
TD has done a fantasic job of introducing and hand-holding that thread.
also bear in mind you should also be able to work out the fib-confluences. the grey-zones would be things like relevant sup/res levels.
but then, it was a "potentials" thread.
whether you take the trade or not is a function of your risk appetite.
theoretically, you could take a less promising pin-bar at reduced stake "just in case", and place a full-stake when all the boxes are ticked.
bbmacs post are excellent in that he gives a full analysis. however, you run the risk of not engaging your own brain and think through the logic of the validity of a trade or not.
when a pin-bar "potential" is highlighted, it should serve as a point of analysis, not a blind "trade this".
dunno why TD has done what he has done. but his thread should stand the test of time.
EDIT: so, is this thread going to overturn TDs wishes and turn into a copycat thread, or just moaning about his reasons for closing the original ???