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The Times

A council-funded sex education PowerPoint shown to teenagers referenced asking for consent before choking a partner.

The material, funded by Bridgend county borough council in south Wales, was shown to pupils studying PSHE lessons at a range of secondary schools.

Provided by the council's domestic abuse service, Assia, the PowerPoint, which was seen by The Times, taught children that 'consent (when it comes to choking during sex) should happen every time sexual choking is an option'.


 
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  • ‘Real’ women (biological) have never exhibited the male testosterone-driven violence exhibited by trans (synthetic) women.
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  • During the ongoing Gaza war, Israeli male and female soldiers, guards, medical staff have reportedly committed wartime sexual violence against Palestinian ...source: Wikipedia
  • Female members of ISIS have committed wartime violence, enslavement and instigated sexual violence against Yazidi women.
 
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Still time to vote in the local elections. Here's two-tier-Kier with lots of reasons to vote Labour. Not!
Enjoy . . .

 
That is all very depressing Timsk

I would vote if I thought it might make a difference. But I know that taxes will go up, life quality (outside technology improvements) will go down, national debt will go up, and it doesn't matter who you vote for.
 
That is all very depressing Timsk

I would vote if I thought it might make a difference. But I know that taxes will go up, life quality (outside technology improvements) will go down, national debt will go up, and it doesn't matter who you vote for.
100% agree with you, RT!
I suspect Andrew Lawrence (the satirist / comedian in the video) would also agree and would have put out similar content if the Tories were still in power. For the reasons you cite, I'm politically homeless now. I don't trust any party further than I can throw them and, I'm sorry to say, I have a very pessimistic outlook on the future of this country and the west in general.
Tim.
PS. I didn't vote in yesterday's elections!
 
100% agree with you, RT!
I suspect Andrew Lawrence (the satirist / comedian in the video) would also agree and would have put out similar content if the Tories were still in power. For the reasons you cite, I'm politically homeless now. I don't trust any party further than I can throw them and, I'm sorry to say, I have a very pessimistic outlook on the future of this country and the west in general.
Tim.
PS. I didn't vote in yesterday's elections!
If you exclude criminals and abusers, as a group of people politicians are probably the worst sort of people I can think of.

Full of lies, sometimes outright corruption. They have the opportunity to do something good but most seem to be self-serving, waste a lot the people's tax money and then try to get the most financial benefit for themselves in various ways, having left things in a worse state than when they started.

It is nice to occasionally see a politician speaking truth, or at least what they think is true, but it seems so rare, so I too am politically homeless.


The UK government, and many western governments run Ponzi schemes. The government has three ways to keep it going:
print more money (inflation consequences, so a tax on wealth)
tax people more
get more people into the Ponzi scheme

They do all 3. So on the last one, it isn't surprising that migrants boats are still coming, and have been coming for decades. The UK needs more people to come in, especially as birth rates drop. So both legal and illegal immigration are desired.

A google search states that the average cost of a UK member of parliament including pay and expenses and admin costs if £567,000 per year. What value are we getting from that? Are getting the best and the brightest for all that money, or just another pack of liars who will promise one thing to get voted in and go back on it as soon as they are in.
 
If you exclude criminals and abusers, as a group of people politicians are probably the worst sort of people I can think of. . .
Again, 100% agree with you, RT!

The problem is: what can anyone do about it? The answer appears to be very little. The French are prone to protesting and, needless to say, in extreme circumstances to revolt. As a nation, we Brits are too placid and well behaved for that sort of shenanigans and soak up all the government BS with minimal complaint. However, I think there comes a point when there will be a straw that breaks the camel's back so to speak and, when that happens (which I fear it will), things will get very ugly. I do not condone violent protest of any kind and do not want to see it on our streets. However, sadly, I fear that's where we're headed unless a politician - or a group of them - can really get a grip on the situation and start delivering the basic things that people want and need. Some folk are pinning their hopes on Farage and Reform. He and his party will change the face of British politics for sure (yesterday's results prove that) but, the cynic in me says that even if they get in at the next general election - nothing much will really change. I hope I'm proved wrong about that - I honestly do.

All in all, I find it hard to retain any optimism about the future of British politics. The only silver lining on this otherwise dark cloud is that my constituent MP - Caroline Voaden (Lib Dem) - was out canvassing a week or so ago and knocked on my front door. She seemed very nice - and appeared to genuinely want to make a positive change to the lives of local people. I don't agree with Lib Dem policies and won't vote for them and I told her as much, which she accepted gracefully. So, something happens to 'grass roots' MPs like her and those that end up in government. Somewhere along the line, they metamorphose into the the objectionable self serving monsters that you described so well in your post. And when they leave politics, they can (sometimes) revert to being half decent human beings again. Think Michael Portillo and Ed Balls. All very weird!
Tim.
 
Again, 100% agree with you, RT!

The problem is: what can anyone do about it? The answer appears to be very little. The French are prone to protesting and, needless to say, in extreme circumstances to revolt. As a nation, we Brits are too placid and well behaved for that sort of shenanigans and soak up all the government BS with minimal complaint. However, I think there comes a point when there will be a straw that breaks the camel's back so to speak and, when that happens (which I fear it will), things will get very ugly. I do not condone violent protest of any kind and do not want to see it on our streets. However, sadly, I fear that's where we're headed unless a politician - or a group of them - can really get a grip on the situation and start delivering the basic things that people want and need. Some folk are pinning their hopes on Farage and Reform. He and his party will change the face of British politics for sure (yesterday's results prove that) but, the cynic in me says that even if they get in at the next general election - nothing much will really change. I hope I'm proved wrong about that - I honestly do.

All in all, I find it hard to retain any optimism about the future of British politics. The only silver lining on this otherwise dark cloud is that my constituent MP - Caroline Voaden (Lib Dem) - was out canvassing a week or so ago and knocked on my front door. She seemed very nice - and appeared to genuinely want to make a positive change to the lives of local people. I don't agree with Lib Dem policies and won't vote for them and I told her as much, which she accepted gracefully. So, something happens to 'grass roots' MPs like her and those that end up in government. Somewhere along the line, they metamorphose into the the objectionable self serving monsters that you described so well in your post. And when they leave politics, they can (sometimes) revert to being half decent human beings again. Think Michael Portillo and Ed Balls. All very weird!
Tim.
So you are saying perhaps some politicians do start out idealistic/well-meaning but become corrupted by the nature of it? That's possible.

Michael Portillo, involved in a few things, but a non executive director at BAE systems a defence contractor. Does he have a background in weapons systems or aerospace? There is a hidden corruption when politicians retire from politics and suddenly receive board level positions that are not much work, that they are not qualified for, but are hired on good money as an 'adviser'. Portillo then years later is on the board of an oil/exploration firm. He must have some qualifications in that too? Hmmm. And Portillo is probably one of the better ones. Ed Balls was one of many politicians involved in expenses scandals, using expenses claims to pay for second homes with some very large amounts involved. He managed to get away with it. As I mentioned before, they use the system for their own wealth benefit. I remember a company I worked for, and if you had to work after 8pm, they would pay for your dinner. And if you had to work after 11:30 pm, they would pay for a car to drive you home. That was policy. Some people abused it a bit, started work much later and stayed later more than they needed to, which was against the spirit of the policy. Others used the benefit appropriately/occasionally/when necessary. But despite some abusing it, that was a private company who has made a policy decision. They make their own money and decide how they want to spend it on benefits etc. In the case of government, there is huge moral difference in that it is other people's tax money you are using/abusing. It isn't to be used so someone can have a second house and retire early. Your job isn't to set up commissions that cost taxpayers millions and give jobs to your friends so that later on when you leave politics your friends can return the favour and give you a cushy job on a board advising. It does make me angry as you can tell.

"What can anyone do about it?" Yes not much. Maybe leave. That's my idea and some friends also want to leave the country. Try to escape the system. Unfortunately the system doesn't want people to leave, so will make it increasingly hard. They will keep adjusting (increasing) taxes and inflation so that the lower class and the middle class have very little way to escape. They can 'just about' get by, just about save a little money, but things like owning a home will disappear for many of them, and has for quite a long time. Those who already escaped the system and aren't forced to work to live can do just fine I suppose.

That's one of the few things I consider efficient about government. The system keeps people locked into an education from ages 4-16 or maybe older. Doesn't give them a useful education, most of it is a waste of time. Then keeps most people trapped in working for 40+ years in a job. If you are lucky you have some freedom in what type of job and maybe can earn well, but still most people will have to work that length of time (approx.), and others have very little freedom in their job opportunities. Retirement age will get pushed back again and again. It is ruthlessly efficient in this sense, but that isn't just a UK issue.
 
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And just to give another example, David Cameron post political career. Some of these look pretty senior and cushy roles that he must be deeply qualified for

During Cameron's premiership, the financier Lex Greensill was an unpaid advisor who had access to eleven government departments. In 2018 he became an advisor to Greensill Capital and held share options in the company reportedly worth as much as $60 million as well as being paid over $1 million each year for 25 days' work per year. A Panorama investigation concluded that, overall, through a combination of his salary and share sales, Cameron earned around $10 million before tax for 30 months' part-time work.

and the list goes on
 
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Yet again RT, I agree with all you say and stand corrected about Portillo and Balls!

I don't know how closely you follow the Ukraine war (covered on another thread), but I'm remined of a point made by Col. Douglas Macgregor in one of his weekly interviews with Judge Andrew Napolitano, who asked him why senior U.S. military figures (generals etc.) repeatedly lied about the war and who was winning etc. He answered by saying that (if memory serves me correctly) something like 70% of senior serving personel take up board positions with major arms manufacturers to supplement their pensions with another $100k a year, just for turning up to a few meetings and endorsing the latest 'game changer' piece of kit. Those that speak the truth (very few and far between) get ousted from their positions and become persona non grata overnight. And that's why we hear day after day the fiction that Ukraine is winning the war. These people are nothing more than common criminals in my book - every last one of 'em!
Tim.
 
Yet again RT, I agree with all you say and stand corrected about Portillo and Balls!

I don't know how closely you follow the Ukraine war (covered on another thread), but I'm remined of a point made by Col. Douglas Macgregor in one of his weekly interviews with Judge Andrew Napolitano, who asked him why senior U.S. military figures (generals etc.) repeatedly lied about the war and who was winning etc. He answered by saying that (if memory serves me correctly) something like 70% of senior serving personel take up board positions with major arms manufacturers to supplement their pensions with another $100k a year, just for turning up to a few meetings and endorsing the latest 'game changer' piece of kit. Those that speak the truth (very few and far between) get ousted from their positions and become persona non grata overnight. And that's why we hear day after day the fiction that Ukraine is winning the war. These people are nothing more than common criminals in my book - every last one of 'em!
Tim.
Yes. Criminals. It is awful.

I have posted on that Ukraine thread, but I don't agree with some of the pro-Russia comments. I am not pro-USA either.

I don't see Ukraine winning much of anything for the past 3 years. They have at best put up a brave resistance and caused some economic and military damage to Russia, but at a huge cost to themselves.

Why the UK politicians have been vocal and got so involved in aid etc. is a bit less clear to me.
 
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Yeah there may well be some over-reach. At the same time, there are also people who post violent threats.

There is a line between what may cause offence and what is an actual offence and it doesn't seem to be well drawn at the moment.

I am in the minority but think that that being 'offended' is a choice I make and police shouldn't get involved. However, over this football season, there have been referees who have received multiple death threats online, death threats to their family etc. which is a completely different thing, and maybe we need more arrests for that sort of thing.
 
So you are saying perhaps some politicians do start out idealistic/well-meaning but become corrupted by the nature of it? That's possible.

Michael Portillo, involved in a few things, but a non executive director at BAE systems a defence contractor. Does he have a background in weapons systems or aerospace? There is a hidden corruption when politicians retire from politics and suddenly receive board level positions that are not much work, that they are not qualified for, but are hired on good money as an 'adviser'. Portillo then years later is on the board of an oil/exploration firm. He must have some qualifications in that too? Hmmm. And Portillo is probably one of the better ones. Ed Balls was one of many politicians involved in expenses scandals, using expenses claims to pay for second homes with some very large amounts involved. He managed to get away with it. As I mentioned before, they use the system for their own wealth benefit. I remember a company I worked for, and if you had to work after 8pm, they would pay for your dinner. And if you had to work after 11:30 pm, they would pay for a car to drive you home. That was policy. Some people abused it a bit, started work much later and stayed later more than they needed to, which was against the spirit of the policy. Others used the benefit appropriately/occasionally/when necessary. But despite some abusing it, that was a private company who has made a policy decision. They make their own money and decide how they want to spend it on benefits etc. In the case of government, there is huge moral difference in that it is other people's tax money you are using/abusing. It isn't to be used so someone can have a second house and retire early. Your job isn't to set up commissions that cost taxpayers millions and give jobs to your friends so that later on when you leave politics your friends can return the favour and give you a cushy job on a board advising. It does make me angry as you can tell.

"What can anyone do about it?" Yes not much. Maybe leave. That's my idea and some friends also want to leave the country. Try to escape the system. Unfortunately the system doesn't want people to leave, so will make it increasingly hard. They will keep adjusting (increasing) taxes and inflation so that the lower class and the middle class have very little way to escape. They can 'just about' get by, just about save a little money, but things like owning a home will disappear for many of them, and has for quite a long time. Those who already escaped the system and aren't forced to work to live can do just fine I suppose.

That's one of the few things I consider efficient about government. The system keeps people locked into an education from ages 4-16 or maybe older. Doesn't give them a useful education, most of it is a waste of time. Then keeps most people trapped in working for 40+ years in a job. If you are lucky you have some freedom in what type of job and maybe can earn well, but still most people will have to work that length of time (approx.), and others have very little freedom in their job opportunities. Retirement age will get pushed back again and again. It is ruthlessly efficient in this sense, but that isn't just a UK issue.

Politicians get these jobs not for their skill sets but for their knowlede on how the system works and their connections. Portillow held the position of defence secretary. A word of introduction, recommendation and sweeteners with some promises post political retirement will tip contracts in ones favour.

I've had experiences of baby sitting the son of African diplomats, who were shadowing me because their daddy signed up to a lucrative contract offered by the company I was working for. They are promised access to British schools and big corporations and daddy signs up to long term contract.

Also, had a hairy experience when I went for a better value contract imo, but was duely turned down, because one of Lord Ashdown's buddies wanted to do the same work for a higher price and due to connections all my procurement work was scoffed and I was pretty much put down like a dog for not quite grasping what was going on.

Not just MPs but Lords also have external jobs and interests and pass business between them selves.

Parliament is an industry in it self. Forgotten his name but one of the old Labour MPs managed to buy, do up and then sell on 5 properties in the few years or so he held some position, at tax payers expense because it was his parliamentary home, before losing his seat and leaving post a multi-millionaire.

It's just such a common practice these days, even the papers don't write about it.
 

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