Trading is an illusion

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You cannot predict the future where prices is going, but if you look back - there seems to be an order in HINDSIGHT, but of course there is none – Trading is an illusion.
 
Anything can happen next. Any decision can be justified. Unfortunately, no hard fast rules exist that say - if you do this in that situation, you will not lose.
 
Captain Pugwash.....

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See ol captain Pugwash below, now look at that thieving Pirate trying to get old pug jump over board. Look at that thieving pirate.......
 

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Anticipate continuation of trends? And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend. And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.


See ol captain Pugwash below, now look at that thieving Pirate trying to get old pug jump over board. Look at that thieving pirate.......

Stay off those psycho-tropic drugs man :LOL: . Or should it be - get on those psycho-tropic drugs :idea: ;) .

(i watched the shining yesterday - great film) It reminds me of - All work and no play, makes jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

Trading is all about playing the %'s. If there were hard fast rules, it would be easy, and there'd be many more traders and many more successful traders.
Just when i think i have found a hard fast rule, i realise that it wasn't - it was merely a collection of similar incidences that formed a pattern/trend, which was sure enough soon to be broken.
A while back, i realised that i don't need to find a holy grail, i just need to lay the %'s correctly, and make steady profits - which all my strats do. Capital growth (offence), & equally - capital preservation (defence) being my main goals. So I only trade when conditions are favourable, and only trading in the direction of the underlying trend.
 
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You cannot predict the future where prices is going, but if you look back - there seems to be an order in HINDSIGHT, but of course there is none – Trading is an illusion.

Was there supposed to be a logical connection between the first statement and the second one? If so, I'm not seeing it. Or is that the illusion? :p
 
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Best post of 2007 by a mile

Anticipate continuation of trends? And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend. And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.And if it changes then anticipate continuation of new trend, and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend and if it changes anticiapte continuation of trend.


See ol captain Pugwash below, now look at that thieving Pirate trying to get old pug jump over board. Look at that thieving pirate.......

Hi Crap Buddist

Great post, best post of the year by a good few miles IMO probably best post of the decade

Very good Christmas present to all who bother to read it then read it again and have a good think about it over the Christmas period.

By the way Crap Buddist, advice you gave me ages and ages ago was real good, I did not see the point in it then, but a couple of weeks ago I Fat fingered my exit and ended up with 2 on in opposite directions :eek: :eek:

No problem closing both out for a profit :D

Thanks ;)

Andy
 
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Stay off those psycho-tropic drugs man :LOL: . Or should it be - get on those psycho-tropic drugs :idea: ;) .

(i watched the shining yesterday - great film) It reminds me of - All work and no play, makes jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

Trading is all about playing the %'s. If there were hard fast rules, it would be easy, and there'd be many more traders and many more successful traders.
Just when i think i have found a hard fast rule, i realise that it wasn't - it was merely a collection of similar incidences that formed a pattern/trend, which was sure enough soon to be broken.
A while back, i realised that i don't need to find a holy grail, i just need to lay the %'s correctly, and make steady profits - which all my strats do. Capital growth (offence), & equally - capital preservation (defence) being my main goals. So I only trad when conditions are favourable, and only trading in the direction of the underlying trend.

I save them for the weekend :) what I mean is unrelenting grinding.... like waves , oceans always flowing one way or the other ? thats all it does.....
 
You cannot predict the future where prices is going, but if you look back - there seems to be an order in HINDSIGHT, but of course there is none – Trading is an illusion.
It's not that Trading is an Illusion. It's that Price is an illusion, price does not represent actual value.

The illusion is the descreptancy between what price shows and it's real value. This is were spectulation comes to play.


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You cannot predict the future where prices is going, but if you look back - there seems to be an order in HINDSIGHT, but of course there is none – Trading is an illusion.

Totally agree! Look at a chart, its only time that drags it from from left to right. Sounds obvious! The fundamental reason for buying and selling at any given price is not trend or trend lines. What is it?

Good thread! Your reputation is in the post.
 
It's not that Trading is an Illusion. It's that Price is an illusion, price does not represent actual value.

The illusion is the descreptancy between what price shows and it's real value. This is were spectulation comes to play.

I understand what you're saying about price not equaling value. In simple terms you mean the current market price is not necessarily the same as the economic value of the thing. The problem is that by definition traded price represents an agreement between two parties as to value, if only for an instant. From that perspective one could easily argue that "actual value" is an illusion. Just ask all the banks and funds. :LOL:
 
The woman on all fours on the boat,...she isn't wearing anything is she, is she? Am i imagining things here? Is this an illusion?
 
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The concept of Illusion, You see a star that used to be there clearly with the eye but is not actually there, physically nothing is there.… The whole thing you saw in front of you, was an illusion. Even though you saw it.

The same with trading price. The only reality is now! Our past has brought us here – to our “now.” 'Now” is the only time we can do stuff, not yesterday, not tomorrow. The Dow is curently trading at 13402, could you put your house on the line to where its going next?

I need to get out more:cheesy:
 
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The concept of Illusion, You see a star that used to be there clearly with the eye but is not actually there, physically nothing is there.… The whole thing you saw in front of you, was an illusion. Even though you saw it.

The same with trading price. The only reality is now! Our past has brought us here – to our “now.” 'Now” is the only time we can do stuff, not yesterday, not tomorrow. The Dow is curently trading at 13402, could you put your house on the line to where its going next?

I need to get out more:cheesy:

If you concern yourself with "where it's going next", then you're not trading the "now".

Db
 
The concept of Illusion, You see a star that used to be there clearly with the eye but is not actually there, physically nothing is there.… The whole thing you saw in front of you, was an illusion. Even though you saw it.

The same with trading price. The only reality is now! Our past has brought us here – to our “now.” 'Now” is the only time we can do stuff, not yesterday, not tomorrow. The Dow is curently trading at 13402, could you put your house on the line to where its going next?

I need to get out more:cheesy:

:LOL:

I can't help myself folks,....sorry in... (i can't use the word yet)

But, let's say....

"Everything is known in advance.":|

:LOL: :LOL:

Now you can throw rotten fruit and veg at me.:cheesy:
 
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"Everything is known in advance.":|

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This was one of SOCRATS sayings, I once challenge him to trade live against me in my private room for one week. I used to say to him "Talk is cheap"

If you still lurking Socs the offer still on.
 
Take a black and white photo copy of a five pound note.

Cut it out so that it looks like a fiver.

Then show it to some unsuspecting person and ask them to describe what colour it is.

Most people will tell you its blue. They will still protest it's blue even after you tell them it's black.

It's not until you place the real fiver next to the photo copy that they realise it's black and white.

This is really spooky, I've had this done to me. It's almost as if the photo copy changes colour as you bring the real fiver close in next to it.

( best done with a crisp new note )

dd
 
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