stop loss. why????

jeffre4

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Why does practically everybody put a stop loss on a trade. I believe that it means that you were never confident with the posistion you opened in the first place. If you have done your homework and you believe that whatever you are trading will hit a certain target then you should let run until it does. The companies love stop losses because all you are doing is locking in your losses. How many times do traders say it hit my stop loss then 10mins 1hr 1 day etc it hit my target. Forgive me if this as been discussed before but new to the site.
 

mike.

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Jeff, it says member since 2008 on your profile to the left, is there a reason you choose to wait until now to post this ?
 

wackypete2

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Why does practically everybody put a stop loss on a trade.
It keeps your losses small, protects your account, lets you out of trades that are not producing so you can move on to another opportunity.

I believe that it means that you were never confident with the posistion you opened in the first place. If you have done your homework and you believe that whatever you are trading will hit a certain target then you should let run until it does.

Confidence does not move price. No matter how confident you are in your trade you can still lose. How long will you wait for your position to hit your target? months? years? Meanwhile you could go offside by 1000's of points.

Unless you are quite experienced if you do not use stop losses your account will eventually find itself in a hole you can't get out of.

Peter
 

BeginnerJoe

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Just go trade without stops for a bit. Then you will find out what everyone else already found out.

It is true stops are like magnets attracting price moves and get knocked out. It is your job to make it so that it doesn't attract price moves. It's an interesting puzzle. See if you can solve it. You are damned if you use it, and you are damned if you don't. It's quite a paradox.
 

VielGeld

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I don't have SL orders on my trades, but I do have a mental SL. It leaves a bit of wiggle room so as to avoid the "stopped out by 5 pips, then hit my target" sort of stuff.

A point at which you exit no matter what is ultra-important, though. How much of a drawdown can you take before finding out that your trade is never going to work out?
 

BeginnerJoe

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I don't have SL orders on my trades, but I do have a mental SL. It leaves a bit of wiggle room so as to avoid the "stopped out by 5 pips, then hit my target" sort of stuff.

A point at which you exit no matter what is ultra-important, though. How much of a drawdown can you take before finding out that your trade is never going to work out?

This is no fair. The OP gets the good sh*t without ever paying. I'll tell my mommy.
 

jeffre4

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did not realise i had ever joined a forum until i tried to become a member tonight and i had joined this one. never bothered reading any because i paid someone to advise me (who was rubbish). have traded on my own with success for three years without stop losses.
 

BeginnerJoe

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If you are 100% accurate then stop is a waste of time. After 3 years, why are you still at it. With that kind of success rate, you should be swimming in it.
 

jeffre4

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like most started small and still building capital its greed and panic that gets you stopped. have posistions still short that are nearer to 5350 but i belive that they will be hit they are long term and i am not over exposed which is most traders downfall
 

BeginnerJoe

Senior member
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So you can sustain the loss because your bet is small. The idea that it will eventually come good will one day fail and take your whole account with it. Perhaps your know that already given your small bets. I can think of no other reason that would cause someone to go small.
 
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jeffre4

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the target is 5260 which is valid and may be hit sooner than you think that is why no stop also have longs with no stops with valid targets
 

Shakone

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Ok, so position is open since June or so. 4 months on, your capital is tied up, you're in drawdown on that position from 5350 several times what the gain could be if it hits 5260, and you have no idea when this trade will end or if it might get worse. Are you happy with this % return you're getting from 4 months (or longer)? Do you consider the 5350 to be a good entry?
 
 
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