OrderFlowDashPro
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In this thread, I'll share how I read the tape.
First, I'm the developer/vendor of a specialized tape reading software which really helps me to focus on the flow of the market, AlphaReveal. You can see how it looks below. Our advanced time/sales views aren't shown -- which I don't use. Also, not shown is the q-tracker which I do keep up and sometimes use, it helps to show changes in the book. There is only so much that one can keep track of and so I just use what works for me. There are charting programs that do some of the things our software does but our software is unique in that it is specialized for real-time trading. The key to tape reading is focusing on the immediate market.
Just from reading the tape and my process-based approach to trading, I'd typically see a few good opportunities per day. But, recently, I've combined my tape read with proprietary developed graybox systems that can produce upwards of 30 signals per day. I find watching the graybox signals side-by-side the order flow and combined with my process-based approach to be a far more powerful approach. These trigger clear buy/sell signals again up to 30 times per day and winning percentage of around 80%. It is difficult for me to match their execution prices but I find they help me to maintain situational awareness. I find it especially use to watch the order flow in response to my bots buy and sell signals.
For example today, a huge sell program hit the market exactly when my bot sold. The way the tape responded and having the meta-information from my own bots posture provided critical insight that I wouldn't have had from just watching the system or just watching the tape. But, also, today I was able to detect a shift in the tape which another bot would not have detected that proved critical. So, I'm finding the combination works well. Watching the bots with my tape read is also providing insight that will help me to refine my tape read and order execution.
Success
We've seen from our customers experiences that traders who attempt to trade soley from the tape tend to be less successful then those who combine it with a more holistic approach to the market.
Our philosophy about the order flow is that it is just data. Many vendors have tried to create these really intricate narratives about how the flow works and what it means but really studying the flow will reveal the nature of how it works which is complex and often at odds with the way that people assume how it works. Our theory is the market is the best teacher.
I use again what I've termed a process based approach which involves me "pinging" various data sources to get a "read" on the market. I don't believe in setups. I mean that, I don't look for specific criteria but rather aim to get a feel for where the market is going. I'm a bit skeptical of setups -- instead relying on my market read and graybox systems. These systems do have very clear entry and exit rules which have proven themselves to be very profitable in historial simulation. And, that's my basic rule -- no rules unless they are proven rules.
In general, while I'll continue to work on my market read, I believe that most of our future research will be toward graybox systems and situational awareness systems that compliment my existing strengths. I can share various patterns that I've detected reading the tape -- some are rather interesting. However, the patterns themselves aren't particulary valuable. The value comes from seeing many patterns, repeated over and over and combining that with a bigger picture context.
First, I'm the developer/vendor of a specialized tape reading software which really helps me to focus on the flow of the market, AlphaReveal. You can see how it looks below. Our advanced time/sales views aren't shown -- which I don't use. Also, not shown is the q-tracker which I do keep up and sometimes use, it helps to show changes in the book. There is only so much that one can keep track of and so I just use what works for me. There are charting programs that do some of the things our software does but our software is unique in that it is specialized for real-time trading. The key to tape reading is focusing on the immediate market.
Just from reading the tape and my process-based approach to trading, I'd typically see a few good opportunities per day. But, recently, I've combined my tape read with proprietary developed graybox systems that can produce upwards of 30 signals per day. I find watching the graybox signals side-by-side the order flow and combined with my process-based approach to be a far more powerful approach. These trigger clear buy/sell signals again up to 30 times per day and winning percentage of around 80%. It is difficult for me to match their execution prices but I find they help me to maintain situational awareness. I find it especially use to watch the order flow in response to my bots buy and sell signals.
For example today, a huge sell program hit the market exactly when my bot sold. The way the tape responded and having the meta-information from my own bots posture provided critical insight that I wouldn't have had from just watching the system or just watching the tape. But, also, today I was able to detect a shift in the tape which another bot would not have detected that proved critical. So, I'm finding the combination works well. Watching the bots with my tape read is also providing insight that will help me to refine my tape read and order execution.
Success
We've seen from our customers experiences that traders who attempt to trade soley from the tape tend to be less successful then those who combine it with a more holistic approach to the market.
Our philosophy about the order flow is that it is just data. Many vendors have tried to create these really intricate narratives about how the flow works and what it means but really studying the flow will reveal the nature of how it works which is complex and often at odds with the way that people assume how it works. Our theory is the market is the best teacher.
I use again what I've termed a process based approach which involves me "pinging" various data sources to get a "read" on the market. I don't believe in setups. I mean that, I don't look for specific criteria but rather aim to get a feel for where the market is going. I'm a bit skeptical of setups -- instead relying on my market read and graybox systems. These systems do have very clear entry and exit rules which have proven themselves to be very profitable in historial simulation. And, that's my basic rule -- no rules unless they are proven rules.
In general, while I'll continue to work on my market read, I believe that most of our future research will be toward graybox systems and situational awareness systems that compliment my existing strengths. I can share various patterns that I've detected reading the tape -- some are rather interesting. However, the patterns themselves aren't particulary valuable. The value comes from seeing many patterns, repeated over and over and combining that with a bigger picture context.
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