Floods.

[Splitlink]

There must be a lot of you affected by the weather and flooding.

God Bless you all. I think of you a lot.

 

[Atilla]

There must be a lot of you affected by the weather and flooding.

God Bless you all. I think of you a lot.

Even the English Channel seems to have swelled up by about 3 - 4 meters. Very near to reaching the big boulders around sea front.

Over Brighton way often the big pebbles from the beach get washed onto the foot path and roads when the Channel swells. Only a matter of time I think before we need to strengthen the defenses similar to what the Dutch have done.

This really fabo property right by the beach has been on the market a good few months but hasn't found a buyer yet.

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/37565317?search_identifier=c6952411b8d488f4237d2c3360a804f1

I suspect the proximity to those waves on cold and windy nights may deter buyers as it would me.

As it happens they have built another couple of houses/flats a little further down the sea front from this one. http://www.zoopla.co.uk/new-homes/d...h_identifier=c6952411b8d488f4237d2c3360a804f1

A lot of money to risk considering all the floods we are having.


One consolation so far is we haven't had floods just yet and it seems it's more a case of heavy water fall not having route and drain capacity to find way back out to sea. So those in land more likely to suffer perhaps than those near sea front.

Either way tough call I think.

 

[Splitlink]

In addition, there is the erosion problem. Where I was evacuated, at Milford on Sea, Hants, I can remember the pillboxes along the cliffs, When I went back, in the fifties, they were submerged into the sea and, where we used to walk along the cliff tops, it was crumbling and a no go area.

 

[Atilla]

In addition, there is the erosion problem. Where I was evacuated, at Milford on Sea, Hants, I can remember the pillboxes along the cliffs, When I went back, in the fifties, they were submerged into the sea and, where we used to walk along the cliff tops, it was crumbling and a no go area.

If you did want to check any areas in the UK, environment agency website is very good.

http://watermaps.environment-agency...thing,+West+Sussex#x=513869&y=103044&scale=10

Just punch in a post code and assess risks for area of interest.

 

[mlawson71]

I was just watching the news and they were talking about it. This is horrible. And those poor people, dealing with it at this time of the year.

 

[Pat494]

Some rotten sods are making it even worse by looting the flooded areas up North. No problems here.

 

[Atilla]

Some rotten sods are making it even worse by looting the flooded areas up North. No problems here.

Errmmm free enterprise - capitalists with no social conscience :cheesy:

We've been here before!

 

[ffsear]

Managed to get back to London from Tewkesbury over the xmas period, but the Rivers Seven and Avon both look like their about to burst their banks!

I see once again its the governments faults according to the BBC.

 

[Pat494]

They should dredge the rivers and pile up the mud on the river banks surely.
Whatever they spent umpteen millions on is clearly inadequate.

 

[Lightning McQueen]

They should dredge the rivers and pile up the mud on the river banks surely.
Whatever they spent umpteen millions on is clearly inadequate.

in combination with the search term "dredging" look up "environment Agency" and "European Water Framework Directive" you'll then see why the dredging stopped way back.

the loot was likely spent up by the like of natural England et al.

But all this changed with the creation of the Environment Agency in 1997 and when we adopted the European Water Framework Directive in 2000. No longer were the authorities charged with a duty to prevent flooding. Instead, the emphasis shifted, in an astonishing reversal of policy, to a primary obligation to achieve ‘good ecological status’ for our national rivers. This is defined as being as close as possible to ‘undisturbed natural conditions’. ‘Heavily modified waters’, which include rivers dredged or embanked to prevent flooding, cannot, by definition, ever satisfy the terms of the directive. So, in order to comply with the obligations imposed on us by the EU we had to stop dredging and embanking and allow rivers to ‘re-connect with their floodplains’, as the currently fashionable jargon has it.
And to ensure this is done, the obligation to dredge has been shifted from the relevant statutory authority (now the Environment Agency) onto each individual landowner, at the same time making sure there are no funds for dredging. And any sand and gravel that might be removed is now classed as ‘hazardous waste’ and cannot be deposited to raise the river banks, as it used to be, but has to be carted away.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wor...e-authorities-wont-tell-you-about-the-floods/

 

[Pat494]

in combination with the search term "dredging" look up "environment Agency" and "European Water Framework Directive" you'll then see why the dredging stopped way back.

the loot was likely spent up by the like of natural England et al.



https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wor...e-authorities-wont-tell-you-about-the-floods/

Another good reason to leave the EUSSR of incompetents.

 

[Splitlink]

Don't blame the EU for everything, Pat.

You can dredge as long as you like but, at best, it is only a stopgap and won't stop all that rain flooding the lowlands. There is a permanent high pressure system in the Atlantic that moves north and south with the seasons. It used to push all the lows to the north of the UK in the summer and go south enough, in the winter, so that only some of the bad weather got through. Arctic warming has disturbed the weather system and, now, the US hurricanes, much weaker, but still bad enough, are hitting the UK more often.

We, in Spain, are getting the opposite. Look at the weather maps and see how the high is pushing the lows north, most of it away from the Iberian coast. We are going to have a drought, here, next year, I can see. It's hardly raining, at all, and we had 80 forest fires going, at one time, in various parts of the country.

The UK is going to need dikes to stop most of those floods and building them should have been started years ago.