A market lesson

BeginnerJoe

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I found it annoying with some recent threads where noobies were crying about their bucketshop doing this, or their broker doing that, blah, blah, blah. When the issue is really the noobies themselves have absolutely zero awareness of what is actually going on in the market.

So here's a little lesson for them based on my latest failed trade. Basically, I placed a trade and decided to go to sleep. I randomly choose a stop loss level knowing roughly there was a good chance it would be knocked out. When I woke up and checked, it was knocked out, and knocked out with great surgical precision. This was nothing new because it happened 100's if not 1000's of times in the past.

So why do things like that happen ? Very simple, the scum on the other side of my trade is making a profit. Is it wrong for him/it to do so ? No, because this is how the market works, it makes profits from you if it can and if you let it.

Although possible, I don't believe my broker was responsible for knocking out my trade because they could just be a middle man in a whole chain of people involved in this trade. I believe the guy at the end of this chain is the one moving prices and making profits. Generally, although possible, I don't believe bucketshops need to do the hard work in moving prices when they can just make easy money collecting commissions.

Some will say: no way man, they have to trade billions worth contracts to move the prices to take you out. Actually I believe they can do it quite easily and for free because those contracts are just fluff and from the same scum at the end of the chain for my order.

Some others will say: ahh, your stop was at the same place as many other stops, that's why you got taken out. From experience, I know this to be untrue. Because my stops are often random and the type of (sharp touch and reverse) surgical strike illustrated would occur on them regardless of where my stops were.

Anyway my small loss was easily recovered. While I am awake and watching, this kind of price play by the market is no longer effective against me.

 

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BeginnerJoe

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To impress the noobies of what I was talking about, here's my ongoing recovering trade that currently stands at 2x the value of the loss.

 

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BeginnerJoe

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One of the most common mistakes noobies make is to think the other side of their trade is a dumb and unfeeling ATM, where you could just enter the correct combo of PIN (aka strategy) and monies will come spilling out. Well, the guy on the other side is quite intelligent. If you show him full respect, he can be surprisingly generous in giving you what you have always wanted. The key is respect and not a PIN.

I have recovered my loss in full plus a little bit extra. I used some of my winning to pay to see what else the market has got. But it was a slow day and the show was over. Naturally, I sought out a new show, and this is what is showing currently on the big screen. I am hopeful it will be a nice show.

 

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BeginnerJoe

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Lesson over for now. On this last trade, my chum on the other side wasn't feeling generous. So I took a few pips off him for a token psychological victory. It's been a slow and funny kind of day. No big moves and some of the correlations were out of whack.

I continue to trade - shorting USD/CHF. But that's a different story for a different day.
 
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Lesson over for now. On this last trade, my chum on the other side wasn't feeling generous. So I took a few pips off him for a token psychological victory. It's been a slow and funny kind of day. No big moves and some of the correlations were out of whack.

I continue to trade - shorting USD/CHF. But that's a different story for a different day.

There's me thinking you probably had a system. Price pattern behaviour perhaps, intermingled with those indicators of yours?
 
 
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