Reputable and trustworthy brokers

I can only recommend PaxForex. I have been with them for a while and made them my prime broker. I do trust them and they have never pulled anything funny on me. Their customer service is top of the class.
 
Worldspreads are good...........their a little quiet at the moment but i 'm sure the directors will return one day soon..........


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I'd go for MF global myself - HUGE company - regulated by FSA - customer funds held in segregated accounts.. get through the audit every year.. much like worldspreads.. safe as houses!:cry:
 
1:2000 sounds like a great way to get your account down to $0. I think 1:200 is as high as you should go. Leverage is a great tool, but only if used wisely.
 
if you want transparency trade fx futures on CME

don't go with metatrader brokers

however I know a guy who uses MT4 , he's good at directional trading , trades few lots and he earns a lot but generally.....

but generally it's constructed to rip you off

is that the proper word 'rip u off' ? ;)
 
if you want transparency trade fx futures on CME

don't go with metatrader brokers

however I know a guy who uses MT4 , he's good at directional trading , trades few lots and he earns a lot but generally.....

but generally it's constructed to rip you off

is that the proper word 'rip u off' ? ;)

I can only disagree with that. MT4 is a great platform and the most widely used platform for a reason. The only person who will rip you off is yourself. You may be with a rogue broker who runs with your cash, but that is not the fault of the MT4 platform.
 
I can only disagree with that. MT4 is a great platform and the most widely used platform for a reason. The only person who will rip you off is yourself. You may be with a rogue broker who runs with your cash, but that is not the fault of the MT4 platform.

It is widely used because a great majority of its users don't have a choice and its free
If a broker is reputable it can provide his own state of the art trading platform like Saxo Bank, Barclays(?), Deutche Bank.... and yes, its not the fault of mt4 platform it is a fault of brokers who offer it
 
Good day all, can the forex traders out there give me the names of a few safe, secure and trustworthy forex brokers?

I trade with brokers that passed my tested: real ECN broker or not, how fast is the withdrawal request is processed, slippage and customer service. I have been doing that for years and keep testing brokers all the time with micro accounts. Currently, I keep two live accounts at alapri and sunbirdfx. Both highly recommend and great trading experience.
 
I trade with brokers that passed my tested: real ECN broker or not, how fast is the withdrawal request is processed, slippage and customer service. I have been doing that for years and keep testing brokers all the time with micro accounts.

Well I don't know what your trading style is but your criteria don't make sense to me at all. I was trading up to 200 lots and I can say that the most important things for a professional trader are speed of execution, reliability of connections , the quality of data stream ... if that is ok, the rest that you mentioned don't make any difference in the outcome of your trading.
 
there are many brokers who are trustworthy as eToro, AVAFX, exness, fxcm, axfx.
AVAFX for me is the best.


Sorry, but each one of the names you just mentioned are pure Bucket Shops by the definition of there very own business model.
 
Sorry, but each one of the names you just mentioned are pure Bucket Shops by the definition of there very own business model.

Anyone who has traded spot forex, for a few years, will have been subjected to all the skulduggery that these bucket shops indulge in. Great to see the NFA taking action, and fining, the likes of FXCM, FXDD and Alpari.

I agree with all those who have called it gambling; it is. However, there are some important differences between casinos, horse racing and spot forex. If you play roulette and place a bet on a single number which hits, you get paid 35-1. Back the winning favourite, at 6-4, in the 3.00 @ Newmarket and your £40 bet will return £100. These payments are indisputable.

The spot forex market has no centralised exchange and every retail trader who steps into the " spot forex casino" is exposing themselves to being cheated by the crooks that operate in this particular market.
 
Best retail broker, go with FXCM.

:LOL: Oh, my goodness. Did they pay you to say that?



Why ask why?

Los Angeles Times: Forex Currency Broker FXCM Hit With $2 Million Fine.

Just for starters.


1] NYSE listing and Ernst & Young auditing
*promotes transparency and accountability in terms of organisations financial health,
and trade environment (feed, spreads, fills etc) for traders
*remember, CFTC and NFA fines relate to activities conducted prior to public listing

AIG Trading Group, Inc., was also NYSE listed, yet it was hit with an Antitrust Civil Action by the United States Government:

AIG Trading Corporation; Defendant, etal.

If being a publicly traded company meant no more unethical business dealings, then we would live in quite a different world than the one that exists right now. So, such statements are fluffy comfort food for the mind bent on getting itself into trouble, at the very least - in the Retail FX world.


2] CFTC and NFA fine FXCM
*fines force transparency and integrity in price feed and trade order execution

:LOL: Wow! That had such PR brio!

Fines force unethical business practice behavior to the surface and they prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that certain business entities believe that they are above the law and/or have no responsibility to play by the rules.

Getting fined means that you broke the rules. Getting sued in court, means that the plaintiff's claim is that you broke the law. Neither one of those things going to force more transparency, unless they are accompanied by Governmental follow through in the form of tighter regulatory controls. Have we seen that in Retail Bucket Shop Land? No, we have not.

What have we seen instead? Instead, government has places tighter restrictions on the Retail Trader, not the Retail Bucket Shops, like FXCM and many countless others.


3] Trading Station is one of the better retail forex platforms and it’s free

Better at what? Oh, here's a well know FXCM Trading Station II Platform list of foibles:

- Freezing just before a news release
- Freezing just after a new release
- Perpetually disconnecting and forcing a restart
- Remaining connected by failing to update Core Pricing
- Core Pricing lagging behind competitor Core Pricing
- Sloppy fills, virtually always adverse to the Trader's position
- Spreads that are typically 100% to as much as 600% higher than the competition


4] good spreads as an active trader or off the dealing desk
*don’t get your knickers in a knot, read FXCM’s definition of a dealing desk first

There absolutely no such thing as "No Dealing Desk," in ALL of Retail Forex. It is not possible. They do not take your order to Interbank - period. None of the Bucket Shops do that. They do not have the requisite banking relationships and they are not true Forex Brokers.

If they were true Forex Brokers, then they would offer you TRUE Interbank Liquidity, TRUE Interbank Spreads, TRUE Interbank Execution, TRUE Interbank Fills and they would charge you a Commission for using their platform - period.

Instead, their very own business model by definition means that they must charge you by manipulating the Spread, which does not even come off the real Interbank market rate stream. The stream comes from their own proprietary liquidity pool, not REAL Interbank Prices. Your trade never sees the light of day on the real Interbank, when you trade through a Bucket Shop like FXCM and the countless others out there posing as real Interbank Intermediaries.

Their "Dealing Desk" is now an Electronic Dealing Desk where the spreads you pay and the fills you get, are all algorithmically manipulated by their back-end server, before the prices arrive on your desktop. That is what their pricing engine algorithm does - it is a revenue generator for them. So, the more than can put your position at a disadvantage the more revenue they make.

Saying that you get "No Dealing Desk" access into a Private Liquidity Pool for execution, is like saying get a Public Defender to argue your case against the full weight of the District Attorney's Office upon entering court.

It is a joke.


5] 200:1 margin
*for most traders higher margin increases risk, for me it decreases risk

For most Nubes, 200:1 is total suicide! If you miss the exit ramp on a Swing Trade, you can kiss your account goodbye. If you day trade at 200:1 and you are not trading with high accuracy to a very specified target, then you can expect your Stops bleed out your account.

You have to be either a very accurate Day Trader, a Swing Trader with lots of time on their hands when things go wrong, or a Scalper who understands how and where they should place their order for maximum momentum follow through. And, your Cost Basis per trade needs to be extremely low - or you had better really know what you are doing with higher CB risk.

Using 200:1 as a reason to trade with a Bucket Shop like FXCM and all the others, is really telling.


6] excellent customer service

I rate their Customer Service at 6 out of 10. Nothing special and certainly nothing excellent.


7] there are successful traders using them, here is just one

Successful Trader has many definitions. Mine would be the ability of that Trader to get off of Retail Bucket Shop Trading Platforms of all kinds, and to move on to an Institutional Trading Platform, either in a direct relationship with a Bank, or through a Prime Broker relationship which often times is more beneficial to the individual trader having just set-up an LLC, LLP, or a Corporation for the purpose of managing their own proprietary fund.

Success in trading is really all about how you define it. The Cost Basis per trade limitations on Bucket Shop platforms such as FXCM, Oanda, MB Trading, FXDD, etc., will not allow some Traders to trade at the size they need to be successful. So, an Institutional platform is their only viable option.

In Retail FX, is you live in the United States of America, you now have only one real serious option and that is CitiFX.

I used to put Interactive Brokers into that short list, but they just got hit with a $700,000 fine for not handling their back-office correctly. It did not impact the Retail Trader, but it shows that these Retail Firms like to play fast and loose with the rules.

CitiFX, is a real bank with a real Bank Charter and a real Federal Regulatory Environment in which they most operate. If you move up to their more "Institutional" like sizing levels, then you will see much better spreads on their trading platform, which put them far and away ahead of Bucket Shops like FXCM and the rest.

The Cons are that they still use SAXO Trader, which is a TANK of a Trading Platform. However, they do offer MT4 - unfortunately, the last time I checked, it went through the Boston Technologies MT4 Bridge, but I hear through the grapevine that CitiFX, will be going with their own MT4 solution soon.

If you live inside the U.S., do you really have any other choice, if you desire is to avoid a Bucket Shop? The answer is no.

If you live outside the U.S., then you have DCFX and their awesome Currenex Hub. The have just added cTrader and they have their own stand-alone MT4 solution receiving Currenex Hub liquidity. They also have no problem in Publishing their Liquidity Pool Partners, which is what REAL transparency looks like. FXCM, refuses to publish their Liquidity Partners, which tells me that they are attempting to hide something.

LCG (London Capital Group), might also be another option for some. They offer genuine Institutional Trading Platforms, though I am not 100% that you still cannot open a Retail "like" account with them. Call and ask.

There are NOT many good places in the world to trade Forex right now at the Retail level - period.
 
There's no such thing as a trustworthy forex broker.

Forgive me for reigning in your cynicism a little pb. The vast majority of retail forex brokers are not to be trusted imo, there may be a few reputable ones although I don't know any.

Beginner traders with only chump change would be better served trading an exchange instrument where they can see the time and sales and by making sure their order prints by sending one off during the quiet asian session and watching the tape.

Forex attracts so many scammers / dodgy bucketshops due to it's OTC nature - as I am sure you well know. This allows them to hide behind questionable pricing.

It is possible to trade FX on a level playing field you just need access to a platform where you can see the orders posted and filled. for example reuters 3000 or FXall.

check this FXall Deep Liquidity

so you can see the liquidity available and being taken when you click, you then just choose a broker who charges you a commission per lot.
 
Spot forex with a bucket shop?

It's possible to make money.

Then again, it's also possible to make money in Secondigliano or the slums around Caracas - but why would you want to try unless you were desperate?
 
Saxo Trader is a tortoise. I wouldnt recommend it for scalping


This is absolute true!

It is the sexiest looking platform out there, but the code base brings a lot of functionality that most Retail Traders will never use and it causes the system to grind even on fairly capable desktop systems. It has always been a resource hog.

If they scale it own (re-write the code) and put it on a serious diet, then having access to plain vanilla options on the same platform where you trade spot, can be a fairly powerful thing from a strategy standpoint.

But, I still don't like the company behind the SAXO Trader platform. Their (the principles) history is filled with dubious business dealings in the United Kingdom and SAXO has not shed those individuals (the last time I checked). If I am wrong and the original principles are no longer there, then SAXO could be a nice place to trade, IF their interior culture with respect to Policy Controls have changed.

I've always wanted to like SAXO, but can't for reasons that relate to their Principles behavior in past organizations. Read the history on SAXO's founders and you will know what I am referring to.

Scale down the SAXO Trader codebase, turn the platform into a lightweight solution for Retail Traders and place it on the CitiFX liquidity, or the DCFX Currenex liquidity, maintain access to Vanilla Options, and boom you instantly have the best Retail Trading Platform in existence. Will this ever happen? I seriously doubt it.
 
The spot forex market has no centralised exchange and every retail trader who steps into the " spot forex casino" is exposing themselves to being cheated by the crooks that operate in this particular market.


Retail FX is indeed OTC. It is one of the most hot-wired markets to trade.

Having said that, I got my start on Retail platforms. I still hold several Retail accounts for systems development purposes, as I do not conduct developmental work on my production Institutional platform. I do final live ramp-up proofing on my Institutional platform, but none of the ground-up developmental work.

My theory has always been that any system I design, must be run across five (5) Retail Bucket Shops platforms and three (3) of the five (5) accounts must return profitable for the testing period, before I place the system onto my Institutional platform. So, the same trading system gets tested in five (5) different Retail Buckets.

This is how a stress test my systems and it gives me assurance that I've done everything I can, to make sure the system is stable. If it can be profitable on 3 of 5 Bucket platforms, then I know it has a really good chance of being profitable on the Institutional side.

So, I take a more empirical/research (systematic) approach to trading and not the same gamblers (chance) type of approach, though I do get your point.
 
In the real futures market a trader can become quite systemic, almost ocd, where prices are concerned. Compare this to what an SB company has to offer, and you realise immediately that there is something horribly wrong.

SB is a racket, do not get involved.
 
Then again, it's also possible to make money in Secondigliano or the slums around Caracas - but why would you want to try unless you were desperate?


I had to start out there. I did not have the money, or the experience to start out BARX, which is where I ended up before getting to FXAll. I was basically cash poor and a good Student of trading.

I think the thing that helped me, was my insistence on designing the perfect trading system that never failed. Later, I learned that such a system would NOT be within my intellectual reach (lol), but spending all that time honing my custom indicators to a razors edge of performance, meant that they ended up being high performers once I learned how they really were supposed to be used. After that, I integrated them into a full blown trading system.

So, pushing for perfection (through complete ignorance), ultimately forces the best indicators and thus the best trading system to the surface. With that, I was able to graduate out of Retail Bucket Shop Hell.
 
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