do people really make a living from SB?

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Old Oct 30, 2008, 11:03am   #1
 
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do people really make a living from SB?

Hi,

Sorry to have posted such a dull question again, but its been couple of months now for me and am under 2K.... just makes me think if this is worthwhile ... following are the things i think i should follow .. any input would be great!

1) Don't play with petty cash ... a big pot would mean you can increase stop loss and be safe from daily fluctuations in the market. Initially my stop loss was just the bare minimum, and position always used to close in a fluctuation.

2) Always play on one or 2 index you follow and understand correctly.

Don't really blame the SB companies for my mistakes, but still not sure what am I doing wrong?

Many Thanks!
DT
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 11:11am   #2
 
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You face a few issues trying to be profitable using a SB.

Mainly you are not just trading against the market you are trading against the bookie too.

But to be fair if you have just started trading over the past couple of months you would have to be bloody good to get off to a profitable start with the volatility we have seen, to a large extent the rulebook has gone out the window

In answer to your 2 points.

1. Big stops are not the answer, the important thing is to find the right stop and money manage accordingly, many people have traded a small account up to size but it is not easy.

2. Dont focus on 2 indexes, concentrate on 1 , know it inside out.

Direct access via a broker is much better option.
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good coment one eyed shark
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 11:21am   #4
 
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dreamingtree started this thread I like betting on daily cash indexes because the movements are much larger, the losses can be big but so can the gains!

but I'm not able to find any info on them on the net. I've been using Japan daily cash index on IG. Quite honestly i'm not sure how they are tied with the Japan 225.

Another thing, Its not that i have not made money from sb, I've benefited up to 500 pounds on single bet as well, but end up loosing all in subsequent bets

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You face a few issues trying to be profitable using a SB.

Mainly you are not just trading against the market you are trading against the bookie too.

But to be fair if you have just started trading over the past couple of months you would have to be bloody good to get off to a profitable start with the volatility we have seen, to a large extent the rulebook has gone out the window

In answer to your 2 points.

1. Big stops are not the answer, the important thing is to find the right stop and money manage accordingly, many people have traded a small account up to size but it is not easy.

2. Dont focus on 2 indexes, concentrate on 1 , know it inside out.

Direct access via a broker is much better option.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 11:22am   #5
 
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Hi,

Sorry to have posted such a dull question again, but its been couple of months now for me and am under 2K.... just makes me think if this is worthwhile ... following are the things i think i should follow .. any input would be great!

1) Don't play with petty cash ... a big pot would mean you can increase stop loss and be safe from daily fluctuations in the market. Initially my stop loss was just the bare minimum, and position always used to close in a fluctuation.

2) Always play on one or 2 index you follow and understand correctly.

Don't really blame the SB companies for my mistakes, but still not sure what am I doing wrong?

Many Thanks!
DT
Put bluntly:

GO BACK TO PAPER TRADING.

Reason:

When paper trading use the same amount you would equivalent to your actual pot size when starting, this will give you an example if it is your pot size or your strat. Do this for many months or/and over a few hundred trades.

And, most of all, take your time, the market will be here when you are ready.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 11:42am   #6
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Like all busnieeses, SB or DMA one only gets out of it what they put in. People here have much knollage of there business and some do get good results.
These people have dedicated many hundreds of hours studying what makes prices move.
This is not a easy business to be in, however once the knollage is gained together with expieriance it is the best business in the world.
What business can generate GBP in any country in the world ?
What business gives expieanced traders so much independace ?

The message is Yes there is money to be made, its like brain surgery the money is good, butit takes many years to become qualifyied.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 11:43am   #7
 
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Please ignore Tom Tom's posts:

Every one of his posts are agressively against Spreadbet Firms.

Take a look through his posts, every one of them from when he joined is against Spreadbet Firms and how they rip you off.

Tom Tom is attempting to take Spreadbet Firms to court.

Tom Tom actively admits to 'scamming them' as they 'scam others'.

Tom Tom still uses Spreadbet Firms himself.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 12:10pm   #8
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Good Luck to you too Lee.
I will not pretend to be the best or worst trader, however in the past decade of full time trading ( 2-4 ) days per week 4-5 hrs a day max this business has worked out quite well.
I will invite you over at some piont and can have a day with me if you like.
Swim,sauna,jacussie some trading then a few beers and some food in the evening.
Then you can decide for yourself what league/devision I belong to.
I never make comments about other people untill i have walked a mile in there shoues, there is some wisdom in thouse words.
Good Luck Today !

For me the low is in for 2008 and this is not the time of year to be bearish, these rallies could be small some sharp, before we know it its DOW 10,000 then 11,000.

I did loose a lot when calling the bottum, however did not pick the low this time but managed to get in 8050 , Im vexed that i missed out on adding to the postion when the rally on Tuesday happened, but family time all ways comes first, the market will still be here for another day.

Tom.
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