ZuluTrade

According to C2 they will introduce the same payment model as ZT for non-US customers later this year, so that followers will no longer have to pay a fee to subscribe and providers will be paid on a per-trade basis.
This should help them gain so more market share.


:)

I see C2 international is up now , another advantage for C2 over Zulu is that SP doesn't have infinite amount of money to trade unlike zulu where SP have infinite amount of money so they can keep their positions open as they wish without getting margin calls which makes C2 more realistic ...
 
anyway,back to Jason and his trades. Hes had a fantastic day and could quite easily pull the plug and be ahead again,but hes decided to go for more,interesting.its actually brought my demo account up,but still down

I followed him with 5 trades that all closed positive .....very nice performance :clap:
i think there is a reason why he is not trading so much btw......i am still betweeen either he doesnt take the zulutrade account seriously , or he is taking it slowly. I guess time will show ;)
 
Hi there, you should add more than only one provider - i am actually following of about 10 right now. some even with one lot and one trade. :LOL:
Well, but thats me, i am sure you have a different strategy to follow with.....:idea:

The problem is to find those 10 SP. I use to end up feeling that, no matter what, I choose the wrong ones. It's like a casino.

FxTurtle has several accounts, right now the best one is FXturtle - EURUSD.

The demo account (still not profitable) has:
Jason Alan Jankovsky
greenfx777-6
greenfx777-3
greenfx777-2
FXturtle - Gippy
FXturtle - EURUSD
FxTurtle
Forex Sleep Mode
bikebin
Azar Consulting
1 pair at a time
persist1018
 
Kasber,

for Jankowski and the turtle its your problem we are winning with them. you need to apply better account management, my friend. :cool: that's all 've been talking about here ;)
 
guys, except for Jankovski, what do you think of these guys: i find them intersing to follow:
f8 and OSTRICH GBP........ :idea::idea:
 
guys, except for Jankovski, what do you think of these guys: i find them intersing to follow:
f8 and OSTRICH GBP........ :idea::idea:

Dear robbert,

It's very simple: no trader would ever open 5 or more fixed-size positions in the same direction for the same currency pair (or a very highly correlated one). So 99% of the perceived successful traders on Zulutrade have such a standing because they take advantage of the most important flaw of the platform which is the absence of equity.

Therefore, traders like f8, OSTRICH GBP, and countless others can accumulate positions and by doing so accumulate pips regardless of margin requirements and downside risk.

After a while they have so many pips that it becomes mathematically impossible for them to appear reckless: for example after these guys have accumulated 20000 pips by just opening tens of positions and wait for the market to turn in their favor, 10 positions running 400 pips losses would just mean a drawdown of 20% which then would seem reasonable to most followers. However, what kind of live account must you have to reasonably have 10 positions running 400 pips losses? Or if you do, what kind of ridiculously small size would you have to trade?
Another advantage of the platform is that If they get caught by the market and bust up they can just open another account with another alias and start again (OSTRICH has busted 4 out 6 accounts).

So at the end of the day, if you want to trade microlots and switch between providers every week, you really can pick anybody from the top 100 more or less at random.
What you can also do is shut down Zulutrade, open two live accounts instead, and start trading using a coin flip strategy with 30 open positions, stop loss 500 pips, and profit target 20 pips. I can guarantee you that at least one of these two accounts will provide you with exactly the same performance.

Now on the other hand if you want to find some people who can really call themselves traders, you will need to completely forget about the Zulutrade rankings and start looking for other metrics than total pips and "drawdown".

That, of course, is only my opinion.

:)
 
Dear robbert,

It's very simple: no trader would ever open 5 or more fixed-size positions in the same direction for the same currency pair (or a very highly correlated one). So 99% of the perceived successful traders on Zulutrade have such a standing because they take advantage of the most important flaw of the platform which is the absence of equity.

....

Now on the other hand if you want to find some people who can really call themselves traders, you will need to completely forget about the Zulutrade rankings and start looking for other metrics than total pips and "drawdown".

That, of course, is only my opinion.

:)

Dear the Artist,

thank you for the so detailed analyisis!!! you have made some really nice points there. and i agree with them to ssome extend.
I know the ranking is only indicative, and one, should dig deeper...in that case, do you have any trader in mind to share...just as an example of course! :smart: ill be dilligent enought to not use ;)
 
Dear robbert,

It's very simple: no trader would ever open 5 or more fixed-size positions in the same direction for the same currency pair (or a very highly correlated one). So 99% of the perceived successful traders on Zulutrade have such a standing because they take advantage of the most important flaw of the platform which is the absence of equity.

Im not with you on this one.There can be various strategies that allow for multiple positions. I always reduce and adjust stops when ahead. The only way to do this on zulu is to take multiple positions.
My demo account is now down $700 for the month.
 
Dear robbert,

It's very simple: no trader would ever open 5 or more fixed-size positions in the same direction for the same currency pair (or a very highly correlated one). So 99% of the perceived successful traders on Zulutrade have such a standing because they take advantage of the most important flaw of the platform which is the absence of equity.

Im not with you on this one.There can be various strategies that allow for multiple positions. I always reduce and adjust stops when ahead. The only way to do this on zulu is to take multiple positions.
My demo account is now down $700 for the month.

You think that if they were trading with real accounts ranking would be different? .....:sneaky: more theyir trading in general would be more decent....

I am + 4420.60 pips cummulative ... this week ;) very happy things are going finally up :)
 
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whos in your team

Currently,

Saved FX
Raduga
OSTRICH GBP
Kama-spot
Jason Alan Jankovsky
greenfx777-6
good good system
FxTurtle
f8
duanxian(GBP\USD)
Droid
denganyouqianle
Claudia

lost from: QuoVadisFX, EUReka III (+ but deleated it)

I am following with 0.01 lots and tops 1-5 trades - i moderate upon performance. as well all are zuluguarded - meaning for things to not get out of hand. of course i have losses - (-3533.7 -274.26 EUR) but you cant get it without of course. Vs. 7995.3 388.92 EUR gain I find quite satisfying . This is 7 day performance stats.
Note: for those that are going to substract and compare to my previous post...there is a minor difference that i am not even bother to investigate..most prob. some number i wrote wrong. not that matters thaaaaat much.
 
I finally managed to find my hand of providers: :cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:

fcc
yamatofx2vera
gktrades
co-fx
mybestsystems
hoeforbro


15 days running now, profit + 500 euro on 3000 euro initial invested capital.

Robbert, purely out of curiosity, 1 year later how are these guys looking? They are the 1st ones you posted here, Jan 2012, and you're not using any of them now. The answer should be enlightening for anyone wanting to try signal services. I haven't checked (didn't have time today) but my GUESS is at least 3 have blown up and maybe 1 or 2 still in profit.

Not trying to have a dig at you but it's would be interesting to see after a year how "good" providers are now getting along.

Peter
 
Currently,

Saved FX
Raduga
OSTRICH GBP
Kama-spot
Jason Alan Jankovsky
greenfx777-6
good good system
FxTurtle
f8
duanxian(GBP\USD)
Droid
denganyouqianle
Claudia

lost from: QuoVadisFX, EUReka III (+ but deleated it)

I am following with 0.01 lots and tops 1-5 trades - i moderate upon performance. as well all are zuluguarded - meaning for things to not get out of hand. of course i have losses - (-3533.7 -274.26 EUR) but you cant get it without of course. Vs. 7995.3 388.92 EUR gain I find quite satisfying . This is 7 day performance stats.
Note: for those that are going to substract and compare to my previous post...there is a minor difference that i am not even bother to investigate..most prob. some number i wrote wrong. not that matters thaaaaat much.

wow,i wouldnt go near 1/2 of those
 
Just had a look at my guys. When I picked them they all had great discipline and good performance,and yet most of them have blown out. Robert,these are the ones we sorted out between us and they have caned my account,another month where my demo account gets blow. Im struggling to see how I could trust anyone. What I will do now is see who is left at the end of the month and keep them.Account down to $9300 with 9 days left
 
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what happened to corninforex who posted on here a few times.He got his live account ahead and has since stoped
 
Dear robbert,

It's very simple: no trader would ever open 5 or more fixed-size positions in the same direction for the same currency pair (or a very highly correlated one). So 99% of the perceived successful traders on Zulutrade have such a standing because they take advantage of the most important flaw of the platform which is the absence of equity.

Im not with you on this one.There can be various strategies that allow for multiple positions. I always reduce and adjust stops when ahead. The only way to do this on zulu is to take multiple positions.
My demo account is now down $700 for the month.

Dear Lord Flasheart,
Reducing/adjusting stops and devising strategies to scale in or out of trades is not what I was referring to. Besides it is doable in Zulutrade even though size does not matter from a provider's perspective on the platform.
I was referring to multiple trades with identical fixed size being opened and closed simultaneously, not to optimize position management, but to make 1 single trade accumulate 10x/20x/30x pips.
Hope it's clearer.
:)
 
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