trendie said:
Not a who.
The rules are for any would be wizard.
I'm not sure how many rules there are in total, but I've got 4 of them I'm looking at, at this point.
There's that "want" word.
If that advantage leads to their down fall or death, would it not then be "stupid"?
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Seems like a bit of a contradiction in terms really, either you believe what you want or you believe what you fear, you would be slightly odd if the two were the same
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sulong said:
That all rather depends on the person, and how cleverly the truth is disguised.
roguetrader said:
I think you'er on to something here.
Even the most powerful of (market?) wizards can be fooled from time to time.
But most people will not admit to themselves that they were fooled by the truth, and will continue to be ruled by those other two.
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sulong said:
No-one is fooled by the truth, the truth does not fool, the truth is and that is all there is to it. Perhaps one may not choose to see the truth, but then you are fooled by yourself. Or perhaps the truth is diguised, but then you are fooled by those who disguised it. If life were as simple as believing what one wanted, then we would all believe in God, the blissfull hereafter and the promise of eternal happiness, thus embracing death. But I do not see too many people lining up to check out.
An example of how the truth can fool us.
I cross the same street at the same place, at the same time of day, every day for the last 40 years.
The truth is, this is a safe practice.
On the 1st day of the 41st year, a truck comes out of nowhere and runs over and hurts / kills me.
Was I not fooled by the truth?
Not until that last day did it become an unsafe practice.
I cross the same street at the same place, at the same time of day, every day for the last 40 years.
The truth is, this is a safe practice.
On the 1st day of the 41st year, a truck comes out of nowhere and runs over and hurts / kills me.
Was I not fooled by the truth?
Not until that last day did it become an unsafe practice.
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sulong said:
I am obviously one of the stupid people !!
Give an example of something that a person "will believe anything they fear to be true" - I am stumped for an example to mull over.
EDIT: I am not only stupid, but too quick on the submit button !!
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No. The truth is that that was a relatively safe practice, not without some element of risk, which you discovered in your 41st year. You were fooled if by anything, complacency. So in your 41st year you were confronted by the truth. Crossing the road is not without its risks.
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Given the mind numbing complexity of psychological processes this wizard's rule sounds more like a religious assertion, platitude, piece of pub philosophy, etc. than an accurate statement. It contains a bean of truth, but then so do the phrases "a woman's place is in the home" and "Arabs shoplift".
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sulong said:
sulong said:
The word "anything". I would like an afterlife to be true but I don't believe it exists (I actively disbelieve it, more to the point, but not because I "want" the alternative - no afterlife - to be true). That disproves the statement.
If you replaced "will" with "can" or "sometimes" then it would be more accurate but I'd still argue with "anything". Replace that with "almost anything" or "many things" and I'd agree with you, but it would be a pretty uncontroversial statement. Replace "stupid" with "people" or "human" and it would be fine!
As it is it's too sweeping a statement. It's like saying the prases I quoted. It's the kind of statement you hear in a pub when a bar-room philosopher has a few pints and lets his intellectual hair down. No offence by the way but can you be more specific?
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